Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
I don't want weird bugs when I finally plug in my netbook to a IPv6 connection at some IT friend's house Optimizing bootup based on known, manufactured, fixed hardware is a great idea though. The hardware that's built into the machine should easily be enough to get you into a GUI. Initializing

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 05:15, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:11 PM,   wrote: >> now that it's been pointed out that most of the cat processes >> were from bootchart itself, i highly doubt there will be > > Heisenbug :-) even then, it does give you fairly good idea of what's > up

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, wrote: > for known hw, but _remembering_ a fast path for _any_ hardware. > i.e., if you've booted 10 times and never found ipv6, and always > found the same 3 filesystems in the same partitions, maybe it's > time to stop expecting anything else.  does udev remember

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
martin wrote: > In fact, this might be something that upstream wants to think about in > a generic sense. All the boot-in-5s focus lately is a lot of fun (and > great for end-users, I surely want _my_ boxes to boot in 5s), but > depends in part on skipping a lot of poking and waiting for hardwa

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:11 PM, wrote: > now that it's been pointed out that most of the cat processes > were from bootchart itself, i highly doubt there will be Heisenbug :-) even then, it does give you fairly good idea of what's up during boot. SoaS is meant to run on any hw out there, and a

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
bobby wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM, wrote: > > the shell is really pretty fast, if you can keep the number for > > spawned processes to a minimum. > > this sounds like a super headache to get upstream, but with a possibly > significant payoff. are the scripts you're talking ab

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM, wrote: > wade wrote: >  > These charts are really interesting (and nice looking!).  The whole thing >  > probably requires a lot of analysis to make real gains though.  I wonder >  > what all those calls to 'cat' are in the first chart.  I also wonder if it > > i

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: > > Does anyone know if SoaS uses JFFS2 compression? > > For the XO nand images, it does. Last time I heard SoaS images were down to ~400MB. Perhaps we should consider disabling JFFS2 compression for performance? 600MB should be plenty to

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 10:19:08AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: > These charts are really interesting (and nice looking!). The whole thing > probably requires a lot of analysis to make real gains though. I wonder > what all those calls to 'cat' are in the first chart. I think the first two charts

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
wade wrote: > These charts are really interesting (and nice looking!). The whole thing > probably requires a lot of analysis to make real gains though. I wonder > what all those calls to 'cat' are in the first chart. I also wonder if it i did some looking, and while i don't think i've found

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Wade Brainerd
These charts are really interesting (and nice looking!). The whole thing probably requires a lot of analysis to make real gains though. I wonder what all those calls to 'cat' are in the first chart. I also wonder if it would be possible to defer network initialization until after the GUI comes u

[Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-03 Thread Martin Dengler
For my OLPC/XO-1 laptop these days, I'm using the Sugar-on-a-Stick kickstart files[1]. I want my XO to boot fast, not because I boot it a lot, but because it boots really, really slowly right now. So I installed bootchart, changed olpc.fth to use it, rebooted, and voila, got this chart: http://ww