Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-27 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:35:20PM +0100, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > 2009/3/27 Martin Dengler : > > It's a lot better not to re-format *at all* USB sticks one gets if one > > can help it: > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device > > http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-27 Thread Elena of Valhalla
2009/3/27 Martin Dengler : > It's a lot better not to re-format *at all* USB sticks one gets if one > can help it: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device > http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/20/aligning-filesystems-to-an-ssds-erase-block-size/ actually, the issues in t

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-27 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 03:58:20PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > Windows GUI does a quick high-level format The issue is that one will probably significantly reduce the useful lifetime of the USB stick if you don't format the drive in a certain way (which way is unknown to me for FAT systems, though t

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-27 Thread Sean DALY
Windows GUI does a quick high-level format and the fedora liveusb creator v3.6.3 will not overwrite a bootable stick. These sticks also had the factory-installed U3 rootkit preinstalled which is very persistent and messes up everything with its 3 pseudovolumes, I had to use the uninstaller bef

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-27 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:48:00PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > I have been doing FAT16 exclusively until today, but (if i'm not > confused) the latest SoaS-2 which image failed to boot my XOs when > formatted FAT16 succeeded when formatted FAT32. > > By the way when using the fedora liveusb-creator

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-26 Thread Sean DALY
I have been doing FAT16 exclusively until today, but (if i'm not confused) the latest SoaS-2 which image failed to boot my XOs when formatted FAT16 succeeded when formatted FAT32. By the way when using the fedora liveusb-creator v3.6.3 (previous revs fail) on WinXP i found that formatting the stic

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-26 Thread Caroline Meeks
If there any belief that either FAT or FAT32 formatting is better then the other? Is that something I should be trying when I have problems? Thanks, Caroline On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32? > I do rec

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Sean DALY
The biggest problem was, I had used an ancient version of the fedora utility from way back at the beginning of March (!) which didn't load any of /boot/olpc.fth The SoaS-2 March 21st I booted the Aspire One with yesterday I had done with Unetbootin for Windows. The SoaS-2 March 25th done with fedo

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Walter Bender
Great. So do you think the problem was the SoaS image or FAT vs FAT32? I do recall that OFW used to be finicky about USB keys that no longer had their factory formatting. -walter On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1! > > I allotted 1

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Sean DALY
Success booting an XO-1 with March 23rd SoaS-1! I allotted 130 Mb persistent storage on 2 Gb stick formatted FAT (not FAT32) on WinXP then .iso loaded with fedora LiveUSB Creator v3.6.3 utility. (Note: utility insulted me for trying to overwrite the bootable stick which wouldn't boot so reformat n

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Sean DALY
OK, no boot from today's SoaS-2 in the slot However, when rebooting, "Esc" countdown did not appear unless Check key pressed at OK forth prompt I typed: ok boot u:\boot\olpc.fth the script started then failed with this text: * mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /de

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Sean DALY
hmmm... yes, I downloaded and installed v3.2 on March 4th... four days before the new version came out! the utility itself keeps as a big fat secret what version it is... I'll be happy if that fixes the problem... but upset if the 8 or 10 hours I have put in trying to boot useless sticks was beca

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Wade Brainerd
I believe only the most recent LiveUSB Creator programs will put an 'olpc.fth' on there for you. Maybe the sticks were created with an older version? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > OK thanks Wade > > If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that one. > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Sean DALY
OK thanks Wade If you can tell me just which image you have, I can try with that one. Same behavior with the SD card in or out, and on the other XO with no SD card at all. Neither the SoaS-1 (March 5th), nor the SoaS-2 (March 21st) have a 'boot' directory, nor a '.fth' Forth script at all. If I

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Sean, FWIW I have successfully booted my XO-1 from SoaS-1 using an older image, I haven't tried the latest. I used LiveUSB Creator for Windows with a PATRIOT 2GB stick. What you might be seeing is that you have a SD card with a bootable partition on your XO. I think that might take priority

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-25 Thread Sean DALY
I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused here, is it possible or not at this time to boot an XO-1 from a SoaS image (as we claim on the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC)? if so, how? since the instructions for Option 1 on the wiki page are not working for me. I see t

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Dave Bauer
I am having a more fundamental issue. 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created the crc and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me. 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the livecd-iso-to-disk does not have the --xo options. It looks like tho

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Sean DALY
I have just updated firmware to Q2E35, no boot either from SoaS-1 March 5th or SoaS March 21st. Both of these boot my Acer Aspire One no problem. Weirdly, following the instructions on this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manual_Firmware_Install failed with a bad CRC when the rom image was downlo

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC > > I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere > because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB. I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Sean DALY
Hmmm instructions say that for Option 2 not Option 1... but it's true you had advised me that last week alrready I "burned" a SoaS-2 USB stick with Unetbootin for Windows today and it booted up my Acer Aspire One right away!! very snappy performance On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Walter Bende

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Walter Bender
I think you need to use Q2E28 or higher (as recommended in the instructions??) I asked SDZ about SoaS-1 vs SoaS-2 and he thinks SoaS-2 is a better bet at this stage. I'll try it as soon as I touch down in Boston this afternoon. -walter On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > http:/

[Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB. I'm trying to follow the instructions for Option 1... questions: * Is there a minimum, or recommended firmware level?