Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-19 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 01:51, Bill Bogstad wrote: > > Could be, perhaps we should hear first about real world scenarios on > which this could be useful? Maybe on a school with computer labs all > with the same Sugar version? >From discussio

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 01:51, Bill Bogstad wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:17, Elena of Valhalla >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: [...] Fedora 11 with the included Sugar environment, [...] >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:17, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > > I wonder how hard would it be to configure such fedora to look for an > USB key with SoaS on it and mount its home partition at login time: > this would help keeping some of the advantages of SoaS (the ability to > work from any computer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:17, Elena of Valhalla > wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: >>> [...] Fedora 11 >>> with the included Sugar environment, [...] >>> This does not give the child all the advantages of SoaS,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-17 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: >> My wish is to figure out ways that SoaS can take advantage of the hard >> drive while still remaining a portable environment. Hmm...  Hey,  here >> is a potentially useful 'hack'.  

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-17 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > My wish is to figure out ways that SoaS can take advantage of the hard > drive while still remaining a portable environment. Hmm...  Hey,  here > is a potentially useful 'hack'.  Have SoaS detect the presence of a > hard drive at boot time, lo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:17, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: >> [...] Fedora 11 >> with the included Sugar environment, [...] >> This does not give the child all the advantages of SoaS, but it's >> probably far from useless. > > I wonder how hard w

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: > [...] Fedora 11 > with the included Sugar environment, [...] > This does not give the child all the advantages of SoaS, but it's > probably far from useless. I wonder how hard would it be to configure such fedora to look for an USB key with So

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > As for swap, if you are repurposing discarded machines on any kind of > scale you are going to end up with non-functional machines which are a > great source of parts.  Strip the RAM from the dead machines and > upgrade the rest.  This is som

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Douglas McClendon wrote: > Bill Bogstad wrote: >> [swapping on hard disk with SoaS >> >> Anybody want to code/script this up? > > does /etc/rc.d/init.d/livesys (search for swapon) in f11/soas not already do > just that? I just checked both F11 Live and SoaS Live I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Douglas McClendon
Bill Bogstad wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Jim Simmons wrote: >> Art, >> >> Being a frugal person I do all my home computing on legacy machines >> like the ones you've tested with. As far as SoaS is concerned, I >> agree with your conclusions. I got better results than you did with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Jim Simmons
Art, Sugar on the XO does not have a swap partition because swapping to disk would quickly wear out the solid state drive. You'd have the same problem on a thumb drive, plus swapping to a drive connected to a USB 1.0 port would not be fast. Now the other idea of checking to see if the computer h

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Art Hunkins
I imagine if feasible it would already have been implemented.) Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: "Bill Bogstad" To: "Jim Simmons" Cc: "Art Hunkins" ; ; "Sebastian Dziallas" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-de

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Jim Simmons wrote: > Art, > > Being a frugal person I do all my home computing on legacy machines > like the ones you've tested with.  As far as SoaS is concerned, I > agree with your conclusions.  I got better results than you did with > my Pentium III because I'

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-16 Thread Jim Simmons
Art, Being a frugal person I do all my home computing on legacy machines like the ones you've tested with. As far as SoaS is concerned, I agree with your conclusions. I got better results than you did with my Pentium III because I've installed a USB 2.0 expansion card on it. I haven't tried a Pe