Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:05, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/7/29 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Daniel, could you start the ball rolling by being more explicit about some specific unmet needs of deployments that might be actionable? OK, where should we make such a list?

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
For what it is worth, it is easy enough to add activities to the Fedora SoaS; I don't doubt that. But at this stage I'm only looking at what is already packaged. TamTam does not seem to be packaged by Fedora or Ubuntu. presumably you'll be doing a local replication of your image? I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.07.2009, at 07:22, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I might even stretch to call customers) could have more influence. [...] What are the options for the community having

[Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
quoting Tomeu from another thread (with no bad feelings at all): Sugar Labs has currently no resources to focus on anything, it depends on volunteers doing whatever they want. I chose to spend my time to make easier for more people to bring their knowledge and experience to Sugar and the

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[adding IAEP to cc] On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:39, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: quoting Tomeu from another thread (with no bad feelings at all): Sugar Labs has currently no resources to focus on anything, it depends on volunteers doing whatever they want. I chose to spend my time to

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I might even stretch to call customers) could have more influence. [...] What are the options for the community having more of an influence here? Influence on whom?

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
Great thread! Personally I feel very heard by the development team. I personally don't hear the voice of the XO deployments saying what is needed for them. I admit i have limited time and so I focus on things that are relevent to SoaS but I still would have expected to be interacting with

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 14:43, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com writes: I personally don't hear the voice of the XO deployments saying what is needed for them. When I was in Haiti, being able to interact with Greg was really helpful.  I knew

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Bastien
Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org writes: About having a person at every deployment, some months ago I started creating this list of contacts: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places Thanks for the reminder. My idea was more to have only *one* person in Sugar responsible to

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Bastien
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes: Greg was answering requests from various horizons (cc'ing Greg to this thread.) (Oops, I forgot to Cc Greg, sorry!) -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 14:58, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org writes: About having a person at every deployment, some months ago I started creating this list of contacts: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places Thanks for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Greg Smith
al can link to them from some Roadmap creation page. We may be further along than we think. HTHs. Comments, corrections and additions welcome. Thanks, Greg S Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:58:04 +0800 From: Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
. Comments, corrections and additions welcome. Thanks, Greg S Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:58:04 +0800 From: Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development To: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/7/28 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Yes, if deployers make very clear what is a priority for them and do so in a compelling way, I'm sure volunteer developers will make their plans accordingly. Perhaps the highest priority should

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Walter Bender
Apologies for jumping back to the beginning of the thread. Daniel makes some good point here on a theme that have been raised repeatedly over the lifetimes of both the Sugar project and OLPC. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: quoting Tomeu from another thread

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Walter Bender
2009/7/28 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Perhaps the highest priority should be a Live CD/USB that is easily and reliably installable on the hard disk of a machine. I've now tried strawberry and Sugar on Fedora and neither is