Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-14 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:00:40AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Thou all this people aren't really children. Was there some rationale behind using very large icons with children age 6-12? It's not like they have worse vision than adults. I don't recall, sorry. -- James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Fri, 04-06-2010 a las 11:00 +1000, James Cameron escribió: Does this change fix the bug? No. (But it does fix the size of icons in the activity ring). BTW, a lot of testers told me that they like the small toolbar icons of the 72dpi mode more than the old big ones. I also think it

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-12 Thread forster
Bernie 72 dpi icons looked good to me Maybe the logic of big icons was not eyesight but touchpad control? Though the target audience of the XO builds is still children 6-12, it doesnt have to restrict the audience of other Sugar builds. Sugarlabs can have a wider mission than OLPC. There

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 13-06-2010 a las 08:40 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: 72 dpi icons looked good to me Maybe the logic of big icons was not eyesight but touchpad control? Though the target audience of the XO builds is still children 6-12, it doesnt have to restrict the audience of other

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-12 Thread Gary Martin
Hi guys, On 12 Jun 2010, at 23:53, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Sun, 13-06-2010 a las 08:40 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: 72 dpi icons looked good to me Maybe the logic of big icons was not eyesight but touchpad control? Though the target audience of the XO builds is still

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 08-06-2010 a las 13:21 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: OS 240py XO-1 Though I cannot see any way to create tabs in browse, sometimes clicking links in frames creates tabs which behave erratically eg zero width tab

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-08 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'm not sure what this is and I don't really have the time to look into it atm. Browse is in a difficult situation because hulahop, pywebkitgtk and webkitgtk+PyGI all have hazy futures. Over the summer I'll try and get Browse in a better situation (the plan so far is a thin abstraction layer).

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 08-06-2010 a las 16:13 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: I'm not sure what this is and I don't really have the time to look into it atm. Browse is in a difficult situation because hulahop, pywebkitgtk and webkitgtk+PyGI all have hazy futures. Over the summer I'll try and get Browse

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-07 Thread forster
OS 240py XO-1 Though I cannot see any way to create tabs in browse, sometimes clicking links in frames creates tabs which behave erratically eg zero width tab http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/e/ec/Screenshot_of_Browse_0s240py_.png Tony ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-03 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sat, 29-05-2010 a las 19:19 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: os240py font in Write is small and text does not fill the screen width Please, try editing /usr/bin/sugar to force SUGAR_SCALING=100. Does this change fix the bug? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-03 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:27:09PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Sat, 29-05-2010 a las 19:19 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribi??: os240py font in Write is small and text does not fill the screen width Please, try editing /usr/bin/sugar to force SUGAR_SCALING=100. Tested.

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Fri, 28-05-2010 a las 21:16 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: bugs os240py Activities sometimes launch and stay in a window (seen with paint and turtle blocks) but not happening today more frequently the window appears only for a fraction of a second at launch (with scratch and

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sat, 29-05-2010 a las 11:20 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: os240py Measure sometimes locks up on recording a waveform, quitting from frame then brings up metacity dialog activity is not responding Dont think there was any error log. I've never seen this happen myself... Can you

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: On 26 May 2010 06:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-30 Thread Tim McNamara
On 26 May 2010 06:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1. Our focus is stability and usability for

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-30 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
CentOS ? On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nzwrote: On 26 May 2010 06:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-30 Thread David Farning
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: On 26 May 2010 06:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-29 Thread forster
os240py font in Write is small and text does not fill the screen width ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-28 Thread forster
bugs os240py Activities sometimes launch and stay in a window (seen with paint and turtle blocks) but not happening today more frequently the window appears only for a fraction of a second at launch (with scratch and abacus the window is visible for half a second or so) and Pippy always

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-28 Thread forster
os240py Measure sometimes locks up on recording a waveform, quitting from frame then brings up metacity dialog activity is not responding Dont think there was any error log. more on delayed or absent pulsing start icon and activities starting in window: i suspect the two may be related, on

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 23:12, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 25-05-2010 a las 19:16 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: Is F-11 still the base OS for this? Unfortunately, this build is still based on

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 23:12, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 25-05-2010 a las 19:16 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: Is

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 26-05-2010 a las 09:29 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: I'm happy to hear this. F14 may bring interesting changes for the XO1, can we hope that support for the Geode won't have been dropped by then? There was a bug report [1] that was filed about it to do with glibc. Since I last

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Wed, 26-05-2010 a las 09:29 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: I'm happy to hear this. F14 may bring interesting changes for the XO1, can we hope that support for the Geode won't have been dropped by then? There

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, TBH I don't know what changed between F-12 and F-13. It wasn't the compile flag changes as I checked them so I'm wondering wondering why its suddenly a problem. gcc changed; it started emitting NOPL instructions under i686. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 May 2010 18:12, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: That's not entirely true. The was no changes in CPU support from F-12 to F-13. What has happened was a change in gcc which causes issues with F-13 on geode processors. There's a bit missing from gcc for geode support that would

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 26-05-2010 a las 12:00 -0300, Daniel Drake escribió: As has been pointed out, there is some kernel code floating around that is working in this direction. However, it's not totally correct and the kernel developers want a more generic system rather than something Geode-specific. And

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 12:25 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1. Our focus is stability and usability for deployments, although we're also attempting to merge a couple of low-risk features

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1. Our focus is stability and usability for deployments, although we're also attempting to merge a couple of low-risk

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2010 08:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1. Our focus is stability and usability for deployments, although

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 05/25/2010 08:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org  wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 25-05-2010 a las 19:16 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: Is F-11 still the base OS for this? Unfortunately, this build is still based on Fedora 11. Fedora 13 dropped support for the Geode processor, so it's not an option. Upgrading to Fedora 12 would be possible, but there are unsolved

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 25-05-2010 a las 19:16 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: Is F-11 still the base OS for this? Unfortunately, this build is still based on Fedora 11. Fedora 13 dropped support for the Geode processor, so it's