Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: I like calling it just school. I believe school is metaphorically exactly what you describe as neighborhood, Caroline: The nearby location where learning experiences most often takes place. My position is exactly what Jonas

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: version support for data store and Journal

2009-04-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Silbe, first of all congrats on the proposal and second sorry about the topposting. What if your GSOC application focuses on the backend (datastore) and I do the modifications needed in the UI? The design team at OLPC (most of it are active contributors at SLs) had thought quite a bit about

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal: Document proposed distro tweaks in INSTALL file (Was: Browse-106)

2009-04-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/4/2 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Please help distributors by documenting such config options that might be relevant to adjust for some distributions. I propose to use an INSTALL file in the root of source tarballs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:17:22AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: I like calling it just school. I believe school is metaphorically exactly what you describe as neighborhood,

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Geza Kovacs
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 00:54 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Geza Kovacs gkov...@mit.edu wrote: Thanks for the responses. While I did consider the usefulness of VNC-type remote desktop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal: Document proposed distro tweaks in INSTALL file (Was: Browse-106)

2009-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:31:46AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/4/2 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Please help distributors by documenting such config options that might be

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 05:08:25AM -0400, Geza Kovacs wrote: Since the objective is to broadcast an audio and video stream to the masses, I don't aim to use telepathy for this purpose; rather I aim to use an icecast server which runs on the

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Geza Kovacs
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 12:20 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 05:08:25AM -0400, Geza Kovacs wrote: Since the objective is to broadcast an audio and video stream to the masses, I don't aim to use telepathy for this purpose;

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Geza Kovacs
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 13:26 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz 2. Telepathy does not currently support multi-point conferences. Collabora is working on it, but from what I hear it's not likely to be ready by June. Add the fact that the PHY

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: version support for data store and Journal

2009-04-03 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:36:41PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: In all of our preliminary designs, we actually proposed that branches be flattened from the perspective of the user. That is, the most recent head of any branch in a tree is the canonical version which appears as the most recent

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Geza Kovacs gkov...@mit.edu wrote: the local Icecast streaming server over HTTP. Surely you must agree that that is possible? And very *quickly* saturate the available bandwidth :-/ Our deployment scenarios have lots of laptops. Groups of 20, 30 or even 50 kids

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: version support for data store and Journal

2009-04-03 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:30:47AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: (only short answer and possibly last for today as RL is calling) What if your GSOC application focuses on the backend (datastore) and I do the modifications needed in the UI? That's certainly not a bad idea. The proposal only gives

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Geza Kovacs
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 13:52 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Geza Kovacs gkov...@mit.edu wrote: the local Icecast streaming server over HTTP. Surely you must agree that that is possible? And very *quickly* saturate the available bandwidth :-/ Our deployment

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Then don't be!  OLPC has spent years arguing about how various solution will _not_ work.  How about giving the students a chance to test

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:37 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Maybe with a little thinking up front it would be easier to see how All of that has nothing to do with me, David. And I am an experienced gsoc mentor. And that bit... includes sometimes saying: sorry, but there is a big

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: version support for data store and Journal

2009-04-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:36:41PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: In all of our preliminary designs, we actually proposed that branches be flattened from the perspective of the user. That is, the most recent

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Geza Kovacs gkov...@mit.edu wrote: the local Icecast streaming server over HTTP. Surely you must agree that that is possible? And very *quickly* saturate the available bandwidth :-/

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Geza Kovacs wrote: Actually, during the fall semester I had access to a few XOs from the Media Lab, and happened to try this very thing out (use gstreamer to capture video from webcam and stream it live to an icecast server). With VGA resolution

[Sugar-devel] Sugar on a stick persistance

2009-04-03 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Hello people, I´ve been having some issues with t sugar on a stick. I made the stick step by step as it´s said in the web page with the Soas1-200903232259.iso and the liveusb-creator-3.6.3. on a 2GB Kingstone pendrive. The thing is that it runes excellent but no matter what I do, there is no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a stick persistance

2009-04-03 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi Andres, One mistake I've made more then once was not setting the persistent storage when I create the USB. That being said, I've seen this problem other times too, but not consistently yet. First thing to do is make sure you didn't forget to set up the persistent storage. If you still have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a stick persistance

2009-04-03 Thread Walter Bender
Caroline beat me to the send key. But also, please try using SoaS-2. -walter On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andres, One mistake I've made more then once was not setting the persistent storage when I create the USB.  That being said, I've

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2009 Proposal

2009-04-03 Thread Zubair Assad
I have made changes to my proposal Please review: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Push-to-talk thanks and regards zubair assad On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Zubair Assad i.am.z...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have made a rough draft of Push-to-Talk  for GSoC 2009. The following is the link to

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Gabble!

2009-04-03 Thread David Farning
go Guillaume go! you rock On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Guillaume Desmottes guillaume.desmot...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hey guys, I know that lot of you were waiting this feature since a long time; file transfer in Gabble is there! Thanks for your patience. I did some (very simple)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal of Google Summer of Code

2009-04-03 Thread Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício
Thanks a lot for all the feedbacks. It is very important. I improve my proposal, if anyone could read it I'm pleased. Regards Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício http://febracev.wordpress.com/ Antes de imprimir, pense em sua responsabilidade social e com o MEIO AMBIENTE. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:07

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2009 Proposal: Sugar Grane

2009-04-03 Thread Eduardo Silva
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Do you mean grain? Little mistake.. I think it would be nice if your proposal explained why it has important advantages over the existing

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Gabble!

2009-04-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Apr 2009, at 18:43, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Hey guys, I know that lot of you were waiting this feature since a long time; file transfer in Gabble is there! Thanks for your patience. Hey, cool! Thanks Guillaume!! Regards, --G I did some (very simple) tests with Sugar and it

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Gabble!

2009-04-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Hey guys, I know that lot of you were waiting this feature since a long time; file transfer in Gabble is there! Thanks for your patience. I did some (very simple) tests with Sugar and it seems to work fine except this bug but I'm pretty sure it's a Sugar

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.84.2

2009-04-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.2.tar.bz2 == Fixed tickets == * Bundlebuilder list_files: Better error handling #635 * Only call read_file once on activity startup #428 * Revert Listen for map in Window instead of in Canvas

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2009 Proposal: Sugar Grane

2009-04-03 Thread Eduardo Silva
The big difference with Sugar_on_a_Stick, is that we don't keep the OS in the storage device, sugar_on_a_stick uses an OS very generic and with grane we avoid that, both have different goals. The technique is different, but how are the goals different? The technology is irrelevant;

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2009 Proposal: Sugar Grane

2009-04-03 Thread Eduardo Silva
The Sugar on a Stick vision is that students can use many different computers. Sugar Grane can use different Sugars :) , both solutions works at different levels, both have advantages and disvantages. Are pretty much similar but one covers the fast switching but it depends of computers

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] activities.sugarlabs.org v2

2009-04-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Key features after merging/adapting upstream code: * new addon type Content(.xol bundles) addon's version will be incremented on each uploading * use bundle_id for activity GUID it should prevent creating two addons for the same activity * Application field should be filled for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [RELEASE] activities.sugarlabs.org v2

2009-04-03 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, Key features after merging/adapting upstream code: * new addon type Content(.xol bundles)  addon's version will be incremented on each uploading * use bundle_id for activity GUID  it should prevent creating

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Gabble!

2009-04-03 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le vendredi 03 avril 2009 à 20:32 +0200, Simon Schampijer a écrit : Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Hey guys, I know that lot of you were waiting this feature since a long time; file transfer in Gabble is there! Thanks for your patience. I did some (very simple) tests with Sugar and

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz Agreed... which is why the correct solution is to use link-layer broadcast/multicast.  That way, the bandwidth usage is independent of the number of users, and only a single stream must be transmitted.  Farsight2 already supports link-layer

[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

2009-04-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
on the .iso file for now: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas2-20090403.tar.gz What has changed? * We're now supporting locales! You can change it in the control panel. * You'll notice our funky boot screen - no hotdog anymore... ;) * Browse has been updated - including skin and default

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Jukebox v8 released

2009-04-03 Thread Kushal Das
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Jukebox/Jukebox-8.tar.bz2 ==News== * Fixed .m3u support for at least web based urls * New translations -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in ___ Sugar-devel mailing list