Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?
Hi Caryl, How is it going? I know of two potentail issues. 1. Getting the right materials. At sugar camp we found that the USB created on the macbook was not working, only a PC created USB seemed to work. Plus you need both the USB and the boot helper. 2. some macbooks have a bug, when you boot everything goes fine through most of the boot and just when you are about to get to Sugar you get a mostly black screen with a sqiggle in the middle. Where are you at? I especially need people with problem #2 because I don't have a test machine that shows it and its a show stopper for me for all work in Boston Public Schools because their macbooks have this issue. Thanks, Caroline 2009/5/20 Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com Hi, I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk. I would like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild
On 05/22/09 20:18, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 03:45:04PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Support for Fedora 11 was missing in sysdeps. I pushed a patch adding it. Thanks! The way Fedora versioning works is starting to get annoying (I had to add Fedora 10.93 just two weeks ago). Maybe we should add some kind of fallback hack (i.e. use Rawhide for unknown versions) for Fedora. Good idea, if it's not too much trouble. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?
I have a new macbook, but have seen issue 1 and not 2. Is there some sequence of usb/cd creation I should try that might produce the problem? Its intel mac only, right? My partner has a desktop mac running leopard, but its intel also. I can later try on this setup if it would be of value. Cheers, James. 2009/5/23 Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Hi Caryl, How is it going? I know of two potentail issues. 1. Getting the right materials. At sugar camp we found that the USB created on the macbook was not working, only a PC created USB seemed to work. Plus you need both the USB and the boot helper. 2. some macbooks have a bug, when you boot everything goes fine through most of the boot and just when you are about to get to Sugar you get a mostly black screen with a sqiggle in the middle. Where are you at? I especially need people with problem #2 because I don't have a test machine that shows it and its a show stopper for me for all work in Boston Public Schools because their macbooks have this issue. Thanks, Caroline 2009/5/20 Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com Hi, I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk. I would like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Streamlined jhbuild
Ok, I tested this on Fedora 11 and it works fine for me: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-jhbuild/repos/streamlined This simplified build has only 22 steps and completes in no time compared to the old one. Sascha, if you like these changes please pull them in mainline yourself. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Sugar in jaunty chroots... working today.
Hi folks, I just wanted to report a small victory: I worked out instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Chroot which enabled me to run today's Ubuntu Jaunty sugar packages in a debootstrap chroot on my home machine. No promises that it will keep working tomorrow or that it will work on your crazy setup, but I think it's worth trying, since it /is/ fairly repeatable. Michael Who knows -- perhaps they'll work for others who are weary (or wary) of jhbuild? P.S. - If you're looking for a fun weekend project, then you might consider extending my notes by * making the instructions work on more platforms * figuring out how to cache the downloads, e.g. with approx * baked my logic into a downloadable script or makefile * etc... ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)
On 05/22/09 12:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: The ISO can be downloaded from: http://people.sugarlabs.org/sayamindu/isos/Soas2-200905212052_sayamindu_metacity.iso You can test the image with qemu (or qemu-kvm) with the following command: sudo qemu-kvm -cdrom Soas2-200905212052_sayamindu_metacity.iso -boot d -m 1024M I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu. But it might be because qemu is broken in Fedora 11. Anyway, good job! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)
On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu. But it might be because qemu is broken in Fedora 11. Oh, wait! It was just damn slow because I wasn't using kvm (permissions issue). Now I could test it, and it looks good, modulo the bugs that Tomeu and Gary reported. TurtleArt would work for me, but the window was mispositioned. I'd say: let's switch early in the 0.86 release cycle, as soon as we've shaked the major bugs, so activity maintainers have time to fix the remaining issues in their code. The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu. But it might be because qemu is broken in Fedora 11. Oh, wait! It was just damn slow because I wasn't using kvm (permissions issue). Now I could test it, and it looks good, modulo the bugs that Tomeu and Gary reported. TurtleArt would work for me, but the window was mispositioned. I'd say: let's switch early in the 0.86 release cycle, as soon as we've shaked the major bugs, so activity maintainers have time to fix the remaining issues in their code. Do you really mean to say that switching window manager should be done in a stable environment? Or did you mean to suggest swtiching early _after_ the 0.86 release? The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. Is the purpose to switch from one specific window manager to another specific one, or to move towards working properly with any EWMH-compliant window manager (and just picking one of them by default)? GNOME can work with different window managers too, even if it ships with this one as default. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoYOssACgkQn7DbMsAkQLjXAQCeLGCK7GvW7PnLxRxg5GO++lg+ TQsAoJZ0RdYsWOleadgD+2Rbl0LyTkte =Dq8b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)
Perhaps Maximus from Ubuntu netbook remix may help with emulating matchbox behaviour? https://launchpad.net/maximus I don't really have a say in this, but I'd go for EWMH compliance. Even Compiz could be used in XO 1.5, since it has some 3D support. 2009/5/23 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu. But it might be because qemu is broken in Fedora 11. Oh, wait! It was just damn slow because I wasn't using kvm (permissions issue). Now I could test it, and it looks good, modulo the bugs that Tomeu and Gary reported. TurtleArt would work for me, but the window was mispositioned. I'd say: let's switch early in the 0.86 release cycle, as soon as we've shaked the major bugs, so activity maintainers have time to fix the remaining issues in their code. Do you really mean to say that switching window manager should be done in a stable environment? Or did you mean to suggest swtiching early _after_ the 0.86 release? The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. Is the purpose to switch from one specific window manager to another specific one, or to move towards working properly with any EWMH-compliant window manager (and just picking one of them by default)? GNOME can work with different window managers too, even if it ships with this one as default. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoYOssACgkQn7DbMsAkQLjXAQCeLGCK7GvW7PnLxRxg5GO++lg+ TQsAoJZ0RdYsWOleadgD+2Rbl0LyTkte =Dq8b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Dictionary everywhere ?
There are a dozen dictionary extensions for Firefox, do any of those work in Browse? http://www.dailyblogtips.com/dictionary-extensions-for-firefox/ and comments mention a few. 3) Language detection. The HTML lang attribute? 95% of everything will be browser-based in the near future. Cheers, -- =S Page ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in jaunty chroots... working today.
Thanks for this Michael. I used your instructions a while ago on a debian testing and made them work. this procedure saved me the troubles related to working with sugar-jhbuild on my main system. Rafael Ortiz On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Hi folks, I just wanted to report a small victory: I worked out instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Chroot which enabled me to run today's Ubuntu Jaunty sugar packages in a debootstrap chroot on my home machine. No promises that it will keep working tomorrow or that it will work on your crazy setup, but I think it's worth trying, since it /is/ fairly repeatable. Michael Who knows -- perhaps they'll work for others who are weary (or wary) of jhbuild? P.S. - If you're looking for a fun weekend project, then you might consider extending my notes by * making the instructions work on more platforms * figuring out how to cache the downloads, e.g. with approx * baked my logic into a downloadable script or makefile * etc... ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity
Lucian Branescu writes: 2009/5/22 Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org: Anjal uses Webkit and the evolution backend and has a cool UI, may be interesting to see how to use that code in an activity. Evolution has a long history of eating mailboxes. When a serious bug commonly affects users and goes unfixed for years, one should have quite a bit of doubt about the code. Evolution also happens to mangle mail in ways that hinder full participation in many Open Source mailing lists. Really, this code is not a candidate for reuse. It looks lovely, even has conversations (the one absolutely necessary feature of GMail). GMail conversations are a poor substitute for real threading. See jwz's site for the proper algorithm. (Google: jwz threading) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
