Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Settings in Network Control Panel

2013-03-14 Thread Manuel QuiƱones
2013/3/14 Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com: Thanks a ton Manuel; I will test the patch on the weekend, and let you know :) On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Manuel QuiƱones ma...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Ajay and other devs, Ajay, whlie reviewing your patch for the proxy feature, I decided to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Settings in Network Control Panel

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: For more details of the http_proxy interactions with GTK+, please see the source-code of webkit, in particular http://svn.webkit.org/repository/webkit/trunk/Tools/GtkLauncher/main.c GtkLauncher is not a part of WebKit

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.org wrote: I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration I would say that this feature does not fit particularly nicely with some items of our guidelines:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Ajay Garg
Daniel, Your concerns are valid. All I can say that probably using an automated transparent proxy client-server setup is the answer, for getting the requirements met without bothering the kids. * The automatic mode can be set in the XO-images, via simple OOB scripts. * The automatic mode puts

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick theRadio enable checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return theirlaptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxyconfiguration could become support headache like this. Thinking in the same way, we must block

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick the Radio enable checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return their laptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxy

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
While I understand your point about the radio checkbox, this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too. Trying right now I see: * The text is confusing: Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life [] Radio Checked is on or off? What means Radio? Is not clear * After uncheck the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible, then we should provide a solution. Has been a request for a long time, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:35:26 -0600 From: d...@laptop.org To: gonz...@laptop.org CC: alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; an...@activitycentral.com; alsr...@activitycentral.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration On Thu, Mar 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Network proxy, configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, This discussion is making me nervous. The standard model of the XO has been that they are connected to the internet via the school server. Is it proposed to set up this proxy-server as a requirement for all XOs and for the user (primary school children) to have to manage this even when no

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: While I understand your point about the radio checkbox, this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too. Trying right now I see: * The text is confusing: Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life [] Radio

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
I think this feature (proxy-config) is useful, just as the modem-config is, which is included now. dsd's brings a valid questioning of whether this kind of technical features should be included or not. I think this particular matter requires a broader discussion about how we could conciliate

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread James Cameron
But with modem-config a child cannot stop normal operation. With proxy, the child can stop normal operation, in that no Browse will work with wrong proxy. I think proxy configuration should be an optional extension that is disabled by default, allowing a deployment to enable it. On Thu, Mar 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
Is it different from relying on a modem and having a wrong modem-config? I think there are scenarios where normal includes the proper proxy-config, otherwise browse won't work either. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: But with modem-config a child cannot

Re: [Sugar-devel] Network proxy, configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.netwrote: Hi, This discussion is making me nervous. The standard model of the XO has been that they are connected to the internet via the school server. Is it proposed to set up this proxy-server as a requirement for all XOs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I think proxy configuration should be an optional extension that is disabled by default, allowing a deployment to enable it. We can add a configuration to allow deployments to disable it. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Network proxy, configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Does this mean we will need two signed images, one for the schoolserver and one for the stand-alone XO? Until now, the default configuration has assumed that proxy is provided by the schoolserver. Tony On 03/14/2013 11:17 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Tony