Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Ouch! Now I see, I had no thought of this issue... Good find! What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, recognizable user agents. On Friday, 20 December 2013, Rogelio Mita wrote: 2013/12/19

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Impressive! On 20 December 2013 07:52, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of Sugar as a web page. This version now include the list view of the home, datastore handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Very nice! Good work Lionel. Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.orgwrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of Sugar as a web page. This version now include the list view of the home, datastore handling, popup menu on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Surely a different issue. You should look at the shell.log file to see if there are any clue about collaboration. Gonzalo On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Iain, Could you test

[Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Gustavo Duarte
Hi guys, Is git.sugarlabs.org service down ? Somebody know something ? Gustavo. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Looks down. cc: Bernie Aleksey Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Gustavo Duarte gdua...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi guys, Is git.sugarlabs.org service down ? Somebody know something ? Gustavo. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 09:46 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Surely a different issue. You should look at the shell.log file to see if there are any clue about collaboration. I do not perceive where the collaboration error came from. == Just to side line this issue == What

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Iain, Could you test Write from git https://git.sugarlabs.org/write and confirm if is working for you? Testing environment: Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-20-TC5 In both a Sugar-session and sugar-runner, Write successfully saves

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 14:29, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.comwrote: On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Iain, Could you test Write from git https://git.sugarlabs.org/write and confirm if is working for you? Testing environment:

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-195

2013-12-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28852/turtleblocks-195.xo Release notes: 195 ENHANCEMENTS: * New translations BUG FIX: * Added missing parens for some binary operations in

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Hi all. I make a patch for #4686: Enhancement: show object description in its palette Found it in a design at the wiki: ​http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Journal-04.jpeg Making descriptions be shown upfront throughout the interface, would increase the usefullness of the description box, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Bastien
Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org writes: I've decided to name it Sugarizer and package it as a dedicated web site: http://sugarizer.org Nice! Time to organize a small Sugar on the Web workshop in France I guess :) A happy xmas/new year to all of you, -- Bastien

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Art-195

2013-12-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4298 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28853/turtle_art_mini-195.xo Release notes: 195 Resync with Turtle Blocks 195 Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Rogelio Mita
2013/12/20 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, recognizable user agents. sorry I don't understand how this will help us, the expected is that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? I really don't know if is good continue putting information in the palette, it's already crowded. Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez nachoe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all. I make a patch for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? Look at sugar-build bug :P In Xo-1.75 works perfect! 2013/12/20, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org: Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? I really don't know if is good continue

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 14:36 +0100, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 December 2013 14:29, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Iain, Could you test Write from git

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I have a fix for Write crash on export to pdf (waiting git.sl.o return to the live to push it) Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 14:36 +0100, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 December 2013 14:29, Iain Brown

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Rogelio Mita
ok!, I understand you now, yes, can work using user agent 2013/12/20 Rogelio Mita rogeliom...@activitycentral.com 2013/12/20 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, recognizable user agents. I like it Other approach may be registering an

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
We should not set window.top.sugar = {} from the javascript side. Instead we should if isStandalone callback({}). yes, we are on it My point in this thread is: *should we develop thread-safe code when handling window.top props???* chrome: not mandatory opera: yes, we should webkit:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Very nice! I tried them all. The little animation tutorial for the Gears Activity was especially nice. This is a great start on something a lot of us have been talking about. Having it be web/server based is a great solution to a lot of problems. How difficult will it be to add things like

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of Sugar as a web page. This version now include the list view of the home, datastore handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view. I've

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? I really don't know if is good continue putting information in the palette, it's already crowded. Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:13

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Aleksey notified me and I got the machine back online. We couldn't determine the root cause of the crash, and justice has been running for about two years without a glitch. If it ever happens again, we'll transfer the hard drives to our hot spare freedom. I'll be on the west coast until Monday,

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Thanks! On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.orgwrote: Aleksey notified me and I got the machine back online. We couldn't determine the root cause of the crash, and justice has been running for about two years without a glitch. If it ever happens again, we'll

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Thanks!! Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:24:54 -0800 From: ber...@codewiz.org To: gonz...@laptop.org; gdua...@activitycentral.com CC: alsr...@sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down Aleksey notified me and I got the machine back online.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Pushed the change, Iain could you test save as (PDF, Text...) again? Thanks Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I have a fix for Write crash on export to pdf (waiting git.sl.o return to the live to push it) Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 16:42, Code Raguet ignacio.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 16:54, Code Raguet irag...@activitycentral.com wrote: We should not set window.top.sugar = {} from the javascript side. Instead we should if isStandalone callback({}). yes, we are on it My point in this thread is: *should we develop thread-safe code when handling

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Add prelight to frame icons

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Hi, I make a patch for #3293, My patch replace 'Gtk.ToolItem' by 'ToolButton', 'Icon' by 'PulsingIcon' About 'PulsingIcon' I recommend move it to sugar-toolkit, now are in sugar-core. Now: from jarabe.view.pulsingicon import PulsingIcon I recommend something like this: from sugar3.graphics.icon

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
about 1: This is a sugar-build bug (or maybe is my computer? :S) I only add the separator when the description label is added. 2013/12/20, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Why there are multiple separators

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Kim Toufectis
Lionel Laské lionel at olpc-france.org writes: ... Hope you'll enjoy it, it's my Christmas gift to the Sugar community Best regards from France.     Lionel. ... Wow. Brilliant, potentially the face of Sugar to come... Lets us introduce Sugar to so many more

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: chrome: not mandatory But likely to be mandatory in the not too distant future. are you sure about this? I thought that browsers were moving towards single-thread with webworkers API when parallelism is needed. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: It should be possible but not as easy as tweaking a flag or something like that. You would need to download from http using libsoup or something and pipe data into the custom protocol stream. Yeah, I've seen that when

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 20:54, Code Raguet irag...@activitycentral.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: chrome: not mandatory But likely to be mandatory in the not too distant future. are you sure about this? I thought that browsers were

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I know for sure that they are working on this http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/oop-iframes I don't know for sure if js could be single threaded despite that. thanks

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Add style.MENU_WIDTH_CHARS

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Hi! I make a simple patch, for set MENU_WIDTH_CHARS, by default is 60 :) I modified the files where max_width_chars appear Patch's attached. Greetings, Ignacio From f627b80d76e6add15996f02f97bb411563698579 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Ignacio Rodriguez igna...@sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, 20 Dec

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi James, Regarding the search text box, you're right it's... not yet implemented. Regarding testing on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1, seems that Sameer had more luck than you: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151906199843752set=pcb.10151906199923752type=1theater BTW, it's true that

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Paint-63

2013-12-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4082 Sugar Platform: 0.96 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28854/paint-63.xo Release notes: Implement drag a text while is in edition mode Fix bucket color - SL #4622 Fix the operation of end a

[Sugar-devel] [ANN] SqueakJS

2013-12-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi folks, this is still far from running Etoys in the browser, but it does work surprisingly well: http://croquetweak.blogspot.de/2013/12/squeakjs-lively-squeak-vm.html Have a great Christmas! - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
Thanks, it worked today. Speculation: browser was unable to download a dependency and there was no feedback about it. Is there a way to make it more resilient against failure to download dependencies? Is there a way to package this as an Android App? -- James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
2013/12/20 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org Is there a way to package this as an Android App? It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gambiarra game

2013-12-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Aleksey, could you please do this? If you're busy, I'll do it over the week-end. On 12/19/13 05:11, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Bernie, Aleksey, Alan proposed work in this activity a month ago. The owner was notified, but didn't replied, can you give him access to the git repository? Thanks

[Sugar-devel] Sugarizer: the (dark) technical side

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi all, Thanks a lot for your support to Sugarizer. Really appreciate. To complete the technical explanation on the first prototype [1], here a technical overview of the new Sugarizer. 1) Settings: Sugarizer use HTML5 localStorage feature to store user settings [2]. The settings is set in a key

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would respond to a click. Good to know you have published it on Google

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Dec 20, 2013 9:13 PM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi James, Regarding the search text box, you're right it's... not yet implemented. Regarding testing on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1, seems that Sameer had more luck than you:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer: the (dark) technical side

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
An excellent summary, thanks. Lionel Laské wrote: 5) Activities issue: My philosophy with Sugarizer is don't update activities. How would you envisage an update of activities on an Android system that has an offline copy of Sugarizer? Speculation: bring the system online, update to new

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 02:58:24PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: I used the Android app that Lionel has on the Sugarizer site. Thanks. I've had another look now. It was an image, not text, and I hadn't scrolled down that far. Sorry about that, Lionel! It works well. The clock did stop ticking

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 03:03:43PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
The .apk is downloadable here http://sugarizer.org/org.olpc-france.sugarizer.apk This link is also the target link of Android App on Google Play icon on http://sugarizer.org page. I've used this icon for comestic reason :-) but no, Sugarizer is not available in Google Play. So because it don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer: the (dark) technical side

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
An excellent summary, thanks. Lionel Lask? wrote: 5) Activities issue: My philosophy with Sugarizer is don't update activities. How would you envisage an update of activities on an Android system that has an offline copy of Sugarizer? Speculation: bring the system online, update to new