Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Edmund Sevior wrote: > How do you solve "internet lag". > > User A puts a character "A" in position 10, then before user B see sees this (because of the finite propagation time), he puts character "B" in position 10? > > Who wins? You j

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

I love any name that somehow reference directly or indirectly George Orwell's Classic 1984. I dont' know if 1984 ever used the term groupthink but it certainly coined the wonderful term "doublethink" :) On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 19:26 -0500, Caroline Meeks wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarlabs and GSOC

Hi Jameson, Pleasure to virtually meet you. And hello again to the fabulous Mel Chua. :) On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Jameson Quinn wrote: > Last year, OLPC handled the sugar educational environment in GSOC. This > year, that responsibility could be split. Sugarlabs, a more traditional > ope

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 08:37:08PM -0300, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > I also love the name, Groupthink [...] *Grin* > > I love the irony of loving the ironic use of the pejorative name for > an API that helps people exchange (by implication)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

Hi David, How do you solve "internet lag". User A puts a character "A" in position 10, then before user B see sees this (because of the finite propagation time), he puts character "B" in position 10? Who wins? You just have to make sure the the document remains the same for both use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 08:37:08PM -0300, Sebastian Silva wrote: > I also love the name, Groupthink [...] *Grin* I love the irony of loving the ironic use of the pejorative name for an API that helps people exchange (by implication) different ideas. This kind of recursive irony (irony loop) is hil

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

I love the API, great contribution Ben! I also love the name, Groupthink, from WikiPedia: "Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. Individual creativity, uniqueness, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: > David, > > I don't see the justification in deleting these pages, they are still very > useful for developers who need to get up and running. > > Those pages contained information about dependancies, etc that are different > for each platform.

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM, David Farning wrote: > I have just gone through the wiki and deleted the > developmentteam/jhbuild/* pages:) > > These pages were created in around June of 2008 when jhbuild was the > only method for running Sugar on non-XO platforms. Now that we have > packages f

Re: [Sugar-devel] XOCamp 2: Day 3 update

Hello, We are currently talking about a string of technical topics : l10n, journal, performance/memory, power, and jffs/ubi --- through the end of the day. After this there will be a brief talk about digitizing and creating books from ed cherlin at 5. The post below has the latest information fo

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

I have just gone through the wiki and deleted the developmentteam/jhbuild/* pages:) These pages were created in around June of 2008 when jhbuild was the only method for running Sugar on non-XO platforms. Now that we have packages for several distributions and will be using the distributions as ou

Re: [Sugar-devel] p2p stream tubes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > I released telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 yesterday which implements a > long-awaited feature: peer to peer connections in stream tubes! That's fantastic! ... But of course we are never satisfied, so I must ask: how soon do you

Re: [Sugar-devel] p2p stream tubes

Le mercredi 14 janvier 2009 à 20:20 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit : > I want to add it to jhbuild, but on intrepid I get "Requested > 'dbus-glib-1 >= 0.78' but version of dbus-glib is 0.76". > > Are we going to need to put a newer libdbus-glib-1 into jhbuild? Probably, recent Gabble needs this ne

Re: [Sugar-devel] p2p stream tubes

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:57, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > Hi guys, > > I released telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 yesterday which implements a > long-awaited feature: peer to peer connections in stream tubes! > > Basically this means that stream tubes will use a TCP connection (using > SOCKS 5) to transf

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 18:54, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 14 Jan 2009, at 17:33, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 18:23, Gary C Martin wrote: >>> >>> On 14 Jan 2009, at 13:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> Hi Ben, can we use this on non-sugar pygtk apps? For exam

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On 14 Jan 2009, at 17:33, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 18:23, Gary C Martin > wrote: >> On 14 Jan 2009, at 13:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> Hi Ben, >>> >>> can we use this on non-sugar pygtk apps? >>> >>> For example, could we use it to add collaboration features to >>> Labyri

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

Gabriel - No, there are no current plans to shut down any services on dev.laptop.org. OLPC has an 8.2.1 release underway and we'll continue to maintain those services in the future. On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity development should be encouraged to put

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 18:23, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 14 Jan 2009, at 13:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> can we use this on non-sugar pygtk apps? >> >> For example, could we use it to add collaboration features to >> Labyrinth (a pygtk app that we are reusing as a Sugar activity)? Or

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

Wade: I'm an activity developer with my code at dev.laptop.org. I'm a bit confused about this migration. Is it necessary to change the location for some reason? Is dev.laptop.org going to be killed? I believe the Activity Team is a wonderful idea but would like to have this point clarified. Than

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On 14 Jan 2009, at 13:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi Ben, > > can we use this on non-sugar pygtk apps? > > For example, could we use it to add collaboration features to > Labyrinth (a pygtk app that we are reusing as a Sugar activity)? Or > does it depend on Sugar in any way? Tomeu, FWIW I've tried

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, S Page wrote: > I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities... > When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists of > activities in > > > That links to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

Hi John Yes, we need the mimetypes.xml file as well (thanks Tomeu I forgot the USB flash drive use case). I have tested the attached mimetypes.xml. It is working fine. Put it in the activity directory. Furthermore we have to change the scratch-activity script, so the parameter with the scrat

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Olpc-open] Mitra's talk on hole in the wall

Hi, just wanted to say that i was there in Geneva at the Lift conference at Sugata Mitra's talk. I was filming video interviews for http://techvideoblog.com/category/lift/ I remember I approached Sugata Mitra after his talk to ask him what he thought about the OLPC project. I am not sure I understo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:50, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> On 12.01.2009, at 18:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Testing summary - 10 January 2009

Thanks Tomeu,I would definitely like to attend something like that. Regards, Mohit Taneja On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 06:31, Mohit Taneja wrote: > >> Food Force II > >> > >> Tested on 5 XOS, concept awesome and appropriate for developing > cou

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-GSoC] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

We should never forget them. Good job folks. Sharon On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Alex Levenson wrote: > Don't forget community mentors! > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Sharon Lally wrote: > >> >> SJ, it sounds like a good planbut OLPC/1CC had problems retaining >> mentors last ye

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-GSoC] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

Don't forget community mentors! On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Sharon Lally wrote: > > SJ, it sounds like a good planbut OLPC/1CC had problems retaining > mentors last year, so make sure not to over-commit. The remaining OLPC > staff may not have time to mentor. > Sharon > > > > > On Thu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-GSoC] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

SJ, it sounds like a good planbut OLPC/1CC had problems retaining mentors last year, so make sure not to over-commit. The remaining OLPC staff may not have time to mentor. Sharon On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > I'm copying our own gsoc list, and glad to clarify how

[Sugar-devel] p2p stream tubes

Hi guys, I released telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 yesterday which implements a long-awaited feature: peer to peer connections in stream tubes! Basically this means that stream tubes will use a TCP connection (using SOCKS 5) to transfer their data instead of sending them through the server with IBB (bas

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Today I went through dev.laptop.org/git > identifying those projects > that contain Sugar activities. > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus > > Still remaining is to go through Activities/All

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

Hi, Phillip. Thanks for all your hard work in tracking this down. I had looked at several other packages, including EToys, and couldn't figure out from them how to do this. I will make these changes to the next XO Scratch bundle. Is that all I need to do? What about the mime types XML file s

Re: [Sugar-devel] ActivityTeam proposal

Hey, On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > Hello again, > > If you would like to join the ActivityTeam, the Contact page at > http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Contacts is available for you to > add your name. > > When adding your name to the list, please take a minute and de

Re: [Sugar-devel] ActivityTeam proposal

+1! git commit -a iWOO collaborative development!:wq git push On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > Hi all, hope you are enjoying FUDcon. > > Given the recent events at OLPC, I'm planning to refocus my activity > development efforts on SugarLabs. I imagine other activity devel

[Sugar-devel] Cerebro v3.0: File sharing and buddy management made easy!

Want to exchange files between your desktop and your XO laptop? It can't get any easier! In the latest version of Cerebro (currently 3.0.3) you will find simplified file sharing and buddy management. Just click on the buddy you want to send a file to and select a file to send! Screenshots are h

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > can we use this on non-sugar pygtk apps? Yes. Groupthink's only hard dependency is on dbus. It also has optional dependencies on Sugar and GTK. > For example, could we use it to add collaboration features to > Labyrinth (a pyg

[Sugar-devel] Python-based window manager?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I believe there was some discussion earlier on regarding dealing with core X11 from Python. And regading the choice of window manager used for Sugar. Are you aware of python-xlib[1] and The Pointless Window Manager[2]? (no, I do not intend to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Ball wrote: > .. wow, that *is* easy. Thank you! > Now that we're excited, maybe you should let on what the blocker bugs > are. :-) The best way I can put it is: I spent two hours fixing bug after bug before this use case worked. Any other

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

Hi Ben, can we use this on non-sugar pygtk apps? For example, could we use it to add collaboration features to Labyrinth (a pygtk app that we are reusing as a Sugar activity)? Or does it depend on Sugar in any way? If the data model supported sharing through telepathy tubes, I think that the ups

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

This sounds like a great foundation for a sugar framework... something that not only coders can get a feel for... kind Regards, David Van Assche On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Ben, > > > Groupthink: Collab should be easy. > > (from the patch): > -self.totransla

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

The script looks good, except for the name mangling magic (which is a bit hard to understand because of mis-indentations). This wouldn't even work with your XO's language set to non-English (which the majority of XOs use). I would simply name the file "$object_id.sb". - Bert - On 14.01.200