Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Dutch mirror

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 00:12, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 17:50 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: This is great work. Thanks. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: Hi All, I expect more mirror sites soon. So may we should have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Report on using Gnash for digital signage

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/5/19 Kristian Frank Erikson kristian.erik...@eyemagnet.com: Hi Sugar Labs devel list I know you guys use Gnash quite a bit. I've been working for eyemagnet lately and did a little work on Gnash. One of the outcomes was this report, on using Gnash for digital signage. There are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing the 'Erase' options from activity righ click menu

2009-05-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Yeah, we made easy deleting activities, including Browse, because we thought we had made easy enough to update them. Yes. And also, because it's very easy to install new activities. People patching Sugar to remove 'erase'

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Dutch mirror

2009-05-22 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:30 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 00:12, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 17:50 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: This is great work. Thanks. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: Hi

[Sugar-devel] LXDE to use transiflex

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, wonder if this means anything for us: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=336 Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] LXDE to use transiflex

2009-05-22 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, wonder if this means anything for us: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=336 Transifex is a web based tool that lets you upload PO files and commits them for you (regardless of the underlying VCS). They have much grander

[Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, Anjal uses Webkit and the evolution backend and has a cool UI, may be interesting to see how to use that code in an activity. http://live.gnome.org/Anjal Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:29:56PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: When I tried jhbuild what I found strange that it does not detect the Linux distro so I had to manually enter commands as it was specified on the wiki. That must have been quite some time ago as sugar-jhbuild does detect the distro

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:29:12PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: I am talking about this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Jhbuild/Fedora I'm assuming you're talking about the Prerequisites section. There are two answers to your question: 1. (sugar-)jhbuild needs a certain set of

[Sugar-devel] Tracking upstream versions with sugar-jhbuild (was: Re: Simplifying sugar-jhbuild)

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 1) Stop checking out random unstable versions of external projects. They break very often, and we cannot fix them.  Let's instead upgrade manually every once in a while after some testing. We are supposed to be doing this already,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tracking upstream versions with sugar-jhbuild (was: Re: Simplifying sugar-jhbuild)

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 14:23, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 1) Stop checking out random unstable versions of external projects. They break very often, and we cannot fix them.  Let's instead upgrade

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:28:07PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: xulrunner now fails to build with gcc 4.4 (in F11) because of a tiny error in an #elif directive. Is there a way in jhbuild to apply patches to sources? Take a look at the telepathy-gabble definition. Other modules try to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:41:40PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: No need to do that for all users, we can do it distro by distro. I think that each distro in jhbuild should have its maintainer, as Sascha cannot run all of them. Currently I am (running an instance of all supported distros), but

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES (Thursday May 21 2009 - 14.00 (UTC))

2009-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Attendees: Tomeu, Aleksey, Walter, Sayamindu, Simon Retrospect: We have been brainstorming on the Goals of the 0.86 release. The Output can be seen at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Roadmap/0.86 Feel free to add items you feel important to the roadmap - have in mind that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:34:20PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: For example by autodetecting the Linux distro, it could create a full command line. Of course, if it could be automated then it should just say something: The following dependencies are missing: long list here. To install them, type

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
It looks lovely, even has conversations (the one absolutely necessary feature of GMail). The GUI is also very simple, most of it is the WebView. 2009/5/22 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Hi, Anjal uses Webkit and the evolution backend and has a cool UI, may be interesting to see how to use

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 14:59, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 02:47:22PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Also, maybe what we need is better documentation rather than big changes that bring new problems? What kind of documentation are you thinking of?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 02:47:22PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Also, maybe what we need is better documentation rather than big changes that bring new problems? What kind of documentation are you thinking of? Something like what we currently have, only that addressing the points recently

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/22/09 13:29, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:29:56PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: When I tried jhbuild what I found strange that it does not detect the Linux distro so I had to manually enter commands as it was specified on the wiki. That must have been quite some time ago as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 22 May 2009, at 11:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Revisiting the topic of replacing matchbox with a more standard window manager[1], I have just uploaded a soas2 build in which Sugar uses (unmodified) metacity instead of matchbox. The image also has the Gimp, xterm and gcalctool so

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:33, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 22 May 2009, at 11:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Revisiting the topic of replacing matchbox with a more standard window manager[1], I have just uploaded a soas2 build in which Sugar uses (unmodified) metacity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tracking upstream versions with sugar-jhbuild (was: Re: Simplifying sugar-jhbuild)

2009-05-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: That surprises me. At the beginning, we depended on several features that weren't yet released by the upstream projects. But as of today, most of it should be released (if not packaged). +1 I think that what people are

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar Community, After the dust of the 0.84 release has been settled we like to clean up the database. With each new Sucrose release comes some bug tracker housekeeping. This e-mail is designed to let you know about the things we ask you to do until May 27, 2009: Submitters: Please go

[Sugar-devel] Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (28 May, 2009 - 16.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, in the next week's developers meeting we will iterate over the roadmap proposals [1] and find owners for the them. The time to have the proposals including an owner and a description together ends the 5th of June after the developers meeting in two weeks. By then each feature item needs a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread James Simmons
I didn't see Aleksey's espeak gstreamer plugin included in the roadmap. This is needed for text to speech with highlighting support for Read Etexts, and is being included in SoaS now. I'm looking forward to having a version of Sugar I can install on my XO where this is included. James

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread NoiseEHC
Are there any plans to port Sugar to the XO-1 or will it be the job of OLPC so it will be effectively abandoned? Simon Schampijer wrote: Attendees: Tomeu, Aleksey, Walter, Sayamindu, Simon Retrospect: We have been brainstorming on the Goals of the 0.86 release. The Output can be seen at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi Noise. There is and there will be (i presume), a collaboration between the two teams (OLPC and Sugarlabs), to port sugar to the XO 1.5. but details on how this will be done are still missing. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:43 AM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Are there

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread David Farning
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Are there any plans to port Sugar to the XO-1 or will it be the job of OLPC so it will be effectively abandoned? Sugar sits on top of standard linux distributions. The challenge in this instance is on the shoulders of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 03:45:04PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Support for Fedora 11 was missing in sysdeps. I pushed a patch adding it. Thanks! The way Fedora versioning works is starting to get annoying (I had to add Fedora 10.93 just two weeks ago). Maybe we should add some kind of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Usage scenarios for Sugar?

2009-05-22 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:03 +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Hi everyone, we have been contacted by a monthly tech publication in Europe willing to devote several pages to Sugar in their summer issue! More specifically, advising parents how to download run SoaS and do educational stuff with their

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/22/2009 07:06 PM, David Farning wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, NoiseEHCnoise...@freemail.hu wrote: Are there any plans to port Sugar to the XO-1 or will it be the job of OLPC so it will be effectively abandoned? Sugar sits on top of standard linux distributions. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/22/2009 05:31 PM, James Simmons wrote: I didn't see Aleksey's espeak gstreamer plugin included in the roadmap. This is needed for text to speech with highlighting support for Read Etexts, and is being included in SoaS now. I'm looking forward to having a version of Sugar I can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Usage scenarios for Sugar?

2009-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/22/2009 08:03 PM, Sean DALY wrote: Hi everyone, we have been contacted by a monthly tech publication in Europe willing to devote several pages to Sugar in their summer issue! More specifically, advising parents how to download run SoaS and do educational stuff with their kids during

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: As with any other sugar module, people want to run the latest code because it will contain bugfixes, etc. I see hulahop in the same way. As with any other module of anything, some people want to run Stable, some want

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread David Van Assche
I can only speak of opensuse and mandriva but we compile xulrunner ourselves on those 2 plaftorms... David (nubae) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: As with any other sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-22 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
NoiseEHC wrote: Are there any plans to port Sugar to the XO-1 or will it be the job of OLPC so it will be effectively abandoned? Do you mean the XO-1 or XO-1.5, specifically? Also, I hope you are aware of http://blog.printf.net/articles/2009/05/16/the-olpc-xo-1-5-and-fedora-11 which states

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Usage scenarios for Sugar?

2009-05-22 Thread Rita Freudenberg
Sean DALY schrieb: Hi everyone, we have been contacted by a monthly tech publication in Europe willing to devote several pages to Sugar in their summer issue! More specifically, advising parents how to download run SoaS and do educational stuff with their kids during the summer holidays.