[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Google Alert - sugar labs

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick: una piattaforma educativa su penna USB

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.tuxjournal.net/?p=8484
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by TechRadar (UK)

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/-sugar-on-a-stick-os-arrives-610416

SoaS is splendidly monikered !

Sean
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by TechWhack (India)

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/37974-sugar-labs

Note extensive tagging by the editor
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting Sugar to run on certain mac chipsets

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
FWIW, Apple announced in May an iMac EFI firmware upgrade with
improved support for ATI Radeon HD 4850 video:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/_iMac_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_4

Sean


On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a great discussion.  Thanks,

 What are the next steps in figuring this out?

 Is there something I can file a ticket on?

 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Amir Ansaria...@open-edu.co.uk wrote:
  But the problem is that 'modeset' works with other machines and takes
  advantage of a very useful kernel feature. Adding a blanket
  'nomodeset' removes this feature - it allows Mac booting, but to the
  detriment of all other hardware.

 I wouldn't say all other hardware.  Intel graphics are the only one in
 mainline as of 2.6.30 that take advantage of modesetting, and
 hopefully Fedora's ATI modesetting will be accepted into the mainline
 for .31.  At this point (things may be different in a year or two),
 kernel modesetting doesn't add much performance wise.

 bobby

  Ideally, there should be a way to detect whether it's needed and boot
  accordingly. Hence the initrd notion (which would be complex, and I
  don't know of it working on any other distro), or the simple addition
  of a boot menu option.
 
  I don't think it's a Fedora bug, this is something for the kernel
  mailing list... ;-)
 
 
  On 19 Jun 2009, at 01:32, Martin Dengler wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 09:23:38AM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
  Is there a way we can modify SoaS so that mac users don't have to
  [add nomodeset to the kernel command line] but it still works for
  everyone?
 
  Yes (SoaS could put nomodeset in its kernel command line).
 
  Also you/we/someone should file a Fedora bug if there isn't one
  already.
 
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[Sugar-devel] Glyn Moody on SoaS!

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/06/sugar-on-stick-v1-strawberry-is-out.html
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by Gizmodo off of TechRadar: Sugar On a Stick Turns Any Netbook Into Your Very Own OLPC

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://gizmodo.com/5301939/sugar-on-a-stick-turns-any-netbook-into-your-very-own-olpc

100 views in the first few minutes...
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Re: [Sugar-devel] picked up by Gizmodo off of TechRadar: Sugar On a Stick Turns Any Netbook Into Your Very Own OLPC

2009-06-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://gizmodo.com/5301939/sugar-on-a-stick-turns-any-netbook-into-your-very-own-olpc

 100 views in the first few minutes...

The marketing team @ SL is the stuff of legends. Congrats.

(I am sure there are significant challenges in absorbing handling the
attention. But that's for later. Great handling of comms, PR and
monitoring.)



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Re: [Sugar-devel] picked up by Gizmodo off of TechRadar: Sugar On a Stick Turns Any Netbook Into Your Very Own OLPC

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
thanks Martin

We haven't even hit PR Newswire yet in the US, that will be around 2PM
in our timezone :-)

Sean


On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Martin
Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://gizmodo.com/5301939/sugar-on-a-stick-turns-any-netbook-into-your-very-own-olpc

 100 views in the first few minutes...

 The marketing team @ SL is the stuff of legends. Congrats.

 (I am sure there are significant challenges in absorbing handling the
 attention. But that's for later. Great handling of comms, PR and
 monitoring.)



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[Sugar-devel] Picked up by Heise UK

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.h-online.com/open/Sugar-on-a-Stick-1-0-released--/news/113604

they did a good job, used the image and linked directly to the Strawberry page
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] bad links on SoaS wiki page help please

2009-06-24 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Yeah, thanks for putting that there! It's good to have another reference 
there. I finally went ahead and edited the SoaS main page a bit, too.

As the main wiki page is also directing to the Strawberry page, I hope 
that most people will get the information from there.

Thanks for the great work on the press release! :)
--Sebastian

Sean DALY wrote:
 OK I added a direct link to the Strawberry page at the top of the
 page, hopefully visitors will go straight there. A pancake button
 would be better, but I don't know if the wiki can do that.

 The SoaS page is well-referenced so visitors should be guided from that page.

 thanks

 Sean


 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com  wrote:
 The Sugar on a Stick wiki page
 (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick) still talks about and
 links to beta in several locations. I've cleaned it up a little bit
 but I'm concerned about not swapping the correct links, can anyone
 help with that quickly?

 thanks

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Re: [Sugar-devel] FUDCon hackfest proposal: assessment

2009-06-24 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

Is there any interest in figuring out how assessments might work in a 
Sugar activity API?


Teachers frequently talk about the need to assess the progress of their 
pupils.  In the context of an activity, how do teachers do that?  I 
don't think there's a clear mechanism, and I suspect that constructing 
such a mechanism might be simple.  I believe that such a feature might 
also help make a case for usefulness to teachers.


A few points/assumptions:

0. I'm guessing there will be some simple API, maybe 
sugar.activity.assess.  Or maybe it's actually part of datastore.  I 
don't know the code well enough.  :)


1. I assume there will be a server that can collect this data, maybe
Moodle, maybe not.  Something like...
  * Activity is suspended.
  * Assessment data is written to datastore.
  * Some process reaps recent assessment data periodically and syncs to
server if possible, or fails gracefully if not, storing for future sync.

2. I believe that every activity should be able to report the most 
basic assessment metric, which is time spent in an activity.  For 
young students, time spent in an activity is one of the most reliable 
predictors of mastery, and because that data can surely be collected 
automatically, it should be made available automatically.


3. I believe that it should be possible for an activity to specify 
additional, simple assessment.  This could be quite a rathole, but an 
initial possibility could be score/max score and timestamp.


So one can imagine an activity passing along data that might look 
something like this:


gregdek, mongo, rectangle-quest-1, 18/20, timestamp 08:31:44.
gregdek, mongo, rectangle-quest-2, 11/20, timestamp 08:52:08.
gregdek, mongo, time-in-activity, 23 minutes, timestamp 09:04:56.

Is this an interesting idea?  If so, I'd love to sit down with folks at 
the hackfest at LinuxTag and draw up a spec for how it might be 
implemented.


I think it's very interesting and have heard from several people similar 
interest: GCompris, OLPC Austria, IFL (TeacherMate), etc


Will be great to talk about it in LT, maybe we could hold a session in 
the sugar booth?


Or better sunday as a FUDCon session?


I have scheduled two hackfest sessions at FUDCon.

1st session, Friday afternoon, from 2pm to 4pm.  The goal is to get people 
together, discuss the goal (spec for sharing assessment data) and get a 
wide range of ideas.


2nd session, Sunday from 10am onwards, will be hacking to get some of this 
idea implemented.


Simon, Tony and I are all planning to be there.  I hope we can get lots of 
other folks there too, from various projects.


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[Sugar-devel] release is out on eReleases and PR Newswire

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.ereleases.com/pr/sugar-labs-announces-availability-sugar-stick-learning-platform-runs-pc-netbook-classroom-22146

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/06-24-2009/0005049403EDATE=
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Re: [Sugar-devel] FUDCon hackfest proposal: assessment

2009-06-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Greg DeKoenigsbergg...@redhat.com wrote:
 Is there any interest in figuring out how assessments might work in a
 Sugar activity API?

Couple of bits of experience from Moodle-land

 - It is probably worth matching SCORM's API when looking at
reporting back. There is also an IMS standard for this, but I forget
which one. Both cases are overcomplicated, but show what people have
built already... which is important at interoperability time, because
the moment you get assessment data in Sugar, people will say and I
want the data fed to my student tracking sw.

 - Computer-based assessment is a red herring. A big one. Everyone
asks for it, but it is essentially useless. The early ages of CBT were
also the early ages of AI. The myth was planted that computers would
get smarter, and help in assessment. They didn't get any smarter, they
got faster. So they can check (really fast now!) whether you did
something mind-numbingly trivial.

 Sugar is not about getting users to do something mind-numbingly
trivial. Sugar Activities are open-ended, try to have low barrier of
entry, no ceiling. Which means: there is no way for a computer to
assess them.

There is a very interesting divide in SCORM material for education.
The really good activities are open ended, and have no assesment. All
the activities that _have_ assessment wired-in, and mechanical and
mind-numbingly trivial.

There is a case for giving users and activity developers the option,
so they can play with it, and come to terms with computer-based
assessment in their own time...

 Teachers frequently talk about the need to assess

Yes, they do that with Moodle too :-) And when they find that it isn't
magical AI that solves their hard assessment problems, they still use
it a bit but not as an important means of assessment... just like they
use simple multiple-choice quizzes on paper.

IOWs: users imagine themselves using computer-based assessment tools a
lot more than they do in practice.

Also of interest: entry of (human assigned) assessment data is a big
hit in some schools where Moodle integrates with other IS systems.

cheers,



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Re: [Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ down again

2009-06-24 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 On 06/23/09 22:09, David Farning wrote:
 The list is at http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems . I am not
 sure why it is not showing up as a public list.

 Bernie,

 Is there a reason this list is not public?

 The list was initially intended to discuss security-sensitive topics
 too, so we created it as a private, invite-only list.

 Later, we decided to keep these threads private and open up the list.
 I've reconfigured it to be publicly visible now, though the archives are
 still private.


Ok thanks.  That seems a reasonable step.
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[Sugar-devel] Test Release of Listen Spell

2009-06-24 Thread chirag jain
Hi everyone,

There is a test release of Listen Spell activity. I want the community
members to please test the activity and give some feedbacks. Please note
that the activity uses the gst-plugin-espeak for the speech synthesis.

download the xo file from

http://code.google.com/p/listen-spell/downloads/list


you can download a XO specific rpm package of gst-plugin-espeak from

http://people.sugarlabs.org/~alsroot/xo/


Be sure to send some feedbacks.

Thanks and Regards

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some initial thoughts on i18n for Karma

2009-06-24 Thread Felipe López Toledo
what if there were several audio files for the same html element?example:

en_answer.ogg //suppose answer is div id=answer ...

possible answers = yes, no

a better solution:

en_answer_yes.ogg
en_answer_no.ogg

also, what about?
LANG_CODE/answer_yes.ogg
LANG_CODE/answer_no.ogg

felipe.
2009/6/23 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org

 On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 09:31 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote:
  There is a somewhat undocumented algorithm to figure out fallback
  locale (eg: if locale is ne_NP, look inside ne_NP, if not found, look
  inside ne, and so on)
  I really like this idea.
 
  so how about naming convention for the audio files
  langCode_htmlElementId.ogg   ?
  you mean something like:
 
  en_content.ogg//suppose content is div id=content ...
  en_answer.ogg //suppose answer is div id=answer ...
  ?

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[Sugar-devel] we've been slashdotted

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/24/1243255/OLPC-Fork-Sugar-On-a-Stick-Goes-10
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Test Release of Listen Spell

2009-06-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 06:26:15PM +0530, chirag jain wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 There is a test release of Listen Spell activity. I want the community
 members to please test the activity and give some feedbacks. Please note
 that the activity uses the gst-plugin-espeak for the speech synthesis.
 
 download the xo file from
 
 http://code.google.com/p/listen-spell/downloads/list

To ease usage your activity you can upload it to ASLO[1].
There is no need to nominate it to public[2] as final version
just keep it experimental[3].

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Authors
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Glossary#Public_activity
[3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Glossary#Experimental_activity

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[Sugar-devel] Picked up by OpenNet Russia

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=22300
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] we've been slashdotted

2009-06-24 Thread David Farning
Sunjammer is holding up so far.  The FSF has some very fat pipes at
their co-lo facility.

david

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Re: [Sugar-devel] release is out on eReleases and PR Newswire

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
Reuters and Yahoo, and a number of print and TV station websites in
the US have published from PR Newswire:

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS103017+24-Jun-2009+PRN20090624
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sugar-Labs-Announces-prnews-318069825.html?x=0.v=1





On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.ereleases.com/pr/sugar-labs-announces-availability-sugar-stick-learning-platform-runs-pc-netbook-classroom-22146

 http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/06-24-2009/0005049403EDATE=

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[Sugar-devel] Server load

2009-06-24 Thread David Farning
Hey all,
Could you please hold off from running CPU intensive operations on
Sunjammer for a couple hours?  The publicity around the SoaS release
is causing a nice load spike.

thanks
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[Sugar-devel] BBC News!

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8117064.stm
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Re: [Sugar-devel] BBC News!

2009-06-24 Thread Bastien
Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com writes:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8117064.stm

Funny how every media rushes on spreading the press release 
*before* actually testing SoaS...

I guess there will be a second wave with test.

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[Sugar-devel] picked up by Neteco (France)

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.neteco.com/284280-sugar-systeme-olpc-cle-usb.html
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by CrunchGear, with YouTube video

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/24/sugar-on-a-stick-turns-your-old-computer-into-an-olpc/
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by Xconomy

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/06/24/sugarlabs-releases-sugar-on-stick/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] picked up by CrunchGear, with YouTube video

2009-06-24 Thread Gary C Martin
On 24 Jun 2009, at 17:09, Sean DALY wrote:

 http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/24/sugar-on-a-stick-turns-your-old-computer-into-an-olpc/

Cool, great little youtube video as well – it's nice to see a video of  
someone's (admittedly an adult techy) first hands on encounter with  
the Sugar UI. Some useful HCI feedback in there for us...

Regards,
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[Sugar-devel] PRINTING – The Interface and Engi neering Models

2009-06-24 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
 Tomeu suggested approach:

Which is an approach implementing the Printing Libraries provided

by the activity parents like Evince, Abiword and Mozilla.


 *Evince has a list of functions in C which I have been looking up,

but sadly enough they don't come as libraries, so its hack and extract

them before I can even get them to work as a Library.



*Abiword doesn't have wrappers readily visible either, and also I realise

i'm not upto the level of understanding C++ abiword code much,

because it makes my C++ skills look newbie


 *Browse, I have to look up again.


 But the advantages with this approach is:



   1.

   We wont have to insert any new code, we would just be getting a few
   wrappers, and calling them up
   2.

   We can provide a very efficient printing scenario.


 Disadvantages include:



   1.

   I can't fix the amount of time I'd be requiring to finish this up



 A more lenient but resource unfriendly approach(s)


 Case-1: Go with the original plan, that is the Printing activity.

Creating Print Icons in other activities that connect to Print activity
through tubes.

And export their docs to it, have it converted to PDF and use gtkunixprint.


 Advantages:

   1.

   I won't have to kill any of the things I have done so far.
   2.

   Should be very trivial to implement.


 Disadvantages:

   1.

   Not the best approach
   2.

   Could be resource unfriendly


 Case-2: Do the PDF conversion within the activities such as Read and Write

themselves for the pages selected. And connnect them to Print activity, and
print them.


 Advantages:

   1.

   Improvement of case-1, and It should be much more resource friendly
   especially when printing selected pages from a book

Disadvantages:

Has the same as case-1


 Silbe's Approach:

Implementing any of the before said cases, but not implementing tubes/events

for connecting to activities, just save to journal, and again open with
Print Activity.


 Advantages:

   1.

   kills connecting code
   2.

   should make an identical copy of the Printed document in the journal


 Disadvantages:

   1.

   Inherits the ones from the parent blueprint
   2.

   Some folks might disagree ;)
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by Liliputing

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/sugar-on-a-stick-hits-1-0-turns-any-netbook-into-an-olpc.html
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by La Nacion (Argentina)

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
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[Sugar-devel] picked up by Pro-Linux (Germany)

2009-06-24 Thread Sean DALY
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[Sugar-devel] Notes on a computer that doesn't boot because of screen problems

2009-06-24 Thread Caroline Meeks
I'll try to get a ticket in when I get back home. I also have a video
at youtube - meekshome - screen

 run a command as administrator (user root), use sudo command.
See man sudo_root for details.

ubu...@ubuntu:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:1a.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation M5249 HTT to PCI Bridge
00:1c.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.1 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.2 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.3 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller (rev 01)
00:1d.0 Audio device: ALi Corporation High Definition Audio/AC'97 Host
Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1575 South Bridge
00:1e.1 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
00:1f.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c8)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: ALi Corporation ULi M5288 SATA (rev 10)
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon
Xpress 200]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
03:10.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306 Fire II
IEEE 1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller (rev 46)
03:11.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105/VT6106S
[Rhine-III] (rev 86)
ubu...@ubuntu:~$ lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 1002:5a33 (rev 01)
00:01.0 0604: 1002:5a3f
00:05.0 0604: 1002:5a37
00:1a.0 0604: 10b9:5249
00:1c.0 0c03: 10b9:5237 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 0c03: 10b9:5237 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 0c03: 10b9:5237 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 0c03: 10b9:5239 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 0403: 10b9:5461 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 0601: 10b9:1575
00:1e.1 0680: 10b9:7101
00:1f.0 0101: 10b9:5229 (rev c8)
00:1f.1 0101: 10b9:5288 (rev 10)
01:05.0 0300: 1002:5a61
02:00.0 0200: 10ec:8168 (rev 01)
03:10.0 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 46)
03:11.0 0200: 1106:3106 (rev 86)
ubu...@ubuntu:~$


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[Sugar-devel] Better workaround for Xephyr keyboard problem seen running sugar-emulator (jhbuild run)

2009-06-24 Thread Dan Krejsa
Hi,

I've found what I think is a better workaround for the Xephyr problem seen
running sugar-emulator, in which keyboard mappings are not inherited from
the main X server.

One workaround known so far is to go into the Terminal activity
and run

  setxkbmap us

(or whatever keyboard map  options you want).  However, that doesn't fix
all keys,
in particular it doesn't fix the arrow keys (at least for me).  What does
work
is to execute, in a host shell outside of the sugar emulator,

  xkbcomp $DISPLAY :100

replacing :100 with the actual X display of the Xephyr X server;
$DISPLAY is of course the name of the encompassing X display in
which Xephyr runs as a client.   This copies the XKB settings from
the encompassing display to the display under Xephyr.

You have to run xkbcomp after having sent some keyboard events
to Xephyr -- if you do it before that, it seems not to work for some reason
that I don't understand well.

That leads me to a really hackish patch to:

  sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar/bin/sugar-emulator

adding a -k option that does the xkbcomp to copy the XKB settings to
Xephyr before starting sugar.  The most awkward bit is that I had to
add code to put an ugly little window in the Xephyr server waiting for an
initial keystroke before calling xkbcomp.  I know very little about X; maybe
someone can figure out how to avoid that bit.

If you use the patch, start sugar-emulator as follows:

 $ ./sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator -k 

Briefly tested only under Fedora 11. Enjoy,

[1] http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/342


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[Sugar-devel] [GSoC] I need help for Webified - SSB activity favicons

2009-06-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
In case you don't know what Webified is
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified http://honeyweb.wordpress.com

In short, I have added to Browse the ability to create SSB
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site-specific_browser) activities.

Since I'm generating activities, they need to have icons. After some
discussions, I have decided to use a .svg wrapper icon for all SSBs
that includes the website favicon.


I need to extract the favicon from a website and include it in the
.svg icon. Any thoughts?


Right now, I'm doing

code
cls = components.classes['@mozilla.org/network/io-service;1']
io_service = cls.getService(interfaces.nsIIOService)
ns_uri = io_service.newURI(uri, None, None)

cls = components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/favicon-service;1']
favicon_service = cls.getService(interfaces.nsIFaviconService)

favicon_service.getFaviconData(ns_uri)
/code

But the last line throws xpcom.Exception: -2147221231. I haven't been
able to figure out what that error is.
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[Sugar-devel] is olpcgames obsolete?

2009-06-24 Thread Asaf Paris Mandoki
Wondering around sugarlabs wiki I found the way to save the current state of
an activity to the journal here

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/sugar.activity.activity

The physics and x2o activities are based on olpcgames.activity which handles
reading/writing files to the journal in a rather strange way. Is olpcgames
obsolete? I've found much more documentation for sugar.activity than for
olpcgames.activity. Will it be a good idea to port the Physics activity from
using olpcgames modules to use the sugar modules?

Greetings,
Asaf
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] I need help for Webified - SSB activity favicons

2009-06-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've tried more methods from here
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/nsIFaviconService

getFaviconImageForPage() and getFaviconLinkForIcon() work and they
return URIs to the favicon. However, getFaviconData(
getFaviconLinkForIcon() ) still gives an exception.

I have looked at the URIs returned by getFaviconImageForPage() and
getFaviconLinkForIcon() and they're both the default favicon. This
means getFaviconData( getFaviconImageForPage() ) should work, but it
still doesn't. It also means that Browse doesn't collect favicons.


I could resort to getting /favicon.ico, but it's not very standard and
.ico is an annoying format. I would also not account for any meta
tags that may define icons. I was also hoping of using xulrunner's
image handling and get the base64 image from it instead of processing
an image file.

2009/6/25 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com:
 In case you don't know what Webified is
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified http://honeyweb.wordpress.com

 In short, I have added to Browse the ability to create SSB
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site-specific_browser) activities.

 Since I'm generating activities, they need to have icons. After some
 discussions, I have decided to use a .svg wrapper icon for all SSBs
 that includes the website favicon.


 I need to extract the favicon from a website and include it in the
 .svg icon. Any thoughts?


 Right now, I'm doing

 code
 cls = components.classes['@mozilla.org/network/io-service;1']
 io_service = cls.getService(interfaces.nsIIOService)
 ns_uri = io_service.newURI(uri, None, None)

 cls = components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/favicon-service;1']
 favicon_service = cls.getService(interfaces.nsIFaviconService)

 favicon_service.getFaviconData(ns_uri)
 /code

 But the last line throws xpcom.Exception: -2147221231. I haven't been
 able to figure out what that error is.

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