Re: [Sugar-devel] activity.info hosts

2009-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
A good point - now's an excellent time to start using it. it can be used for a soft interaction -- a warning on installation if the activity might not be compatible. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was wondering whether

Re: [Sugar-devel] Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak

2009-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Caroline Meeks writes: the 3rd graders. They are the ones who would test out these three activites. I want to check in on the current status I think it is: 1. Tux Paint - Waiting for it to save to the Journal before we let the kids use it Last I checked, the Journal interface... a.

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity.info hosts

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:35, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: A good point - now's an excellent time to start using it.  it can be used for a soft interaction -- a warning on installation if the activity might not be compatible. Sounds good, someone would like to champion this idea by

Re: [Sugar-devel] Correct use of leading underscores in Python?

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 00:52, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:59:05AM -0500, Jim Simmons wrote: I don't want to start a religious war here, but I could use some guidance.  In writing my Activities I have often copied and pasted bits of code from other

Re: [Sugar-devel] need a better name for starting page of karma than MenuStage

2009-07-21 Thread NoiseEHC
Could you please name those items in English? I suggest this because probably Karma is one of the most important things from an educational viewpoint because it will allow developing curriculum in a totally open way. I mean it will allow teachers to avoid locking teaching materials even into

Re: [Sugar-devel] help about the get_preview function of activity.Activity class to take screenshots

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:08, sumit singhsumit.co...@gmail.com wrote: Martin and Tomeu, Martin, thanx a lot for such a detailed answer. I have got what you want to say. But the problem with me right now is that I think the get_preview function is available only in the latest release of sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 04:03, Art Hunkinsabhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Hello, Peter et al. - Your latest Csound5.10 patch finally made it out to updates-testing today, and I was able to install it on SoaS (Sugar 84) and test it out. Unfortunately it aborts with much the same (if not exactly) as

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Hello, Peter et al. - Your latest Csound5.10 patch finally made it out to updates-testing today, and I was able to install it on SoaS (Sugar 84) and test it out. Unfortunately it aborts with much the same (if not exactly) as before. Log: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25:

Re: [Sugar-devel] journal concerns (was Re: Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak)

2009-07-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:32:04AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:07, Albert Cahalanacaha...@gmail.com wrote: Caroline Meeks writes: the 3rd graders. They are the ones who would test out these three activites. I want to check in on the current status I think it

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity.info hosts

2009-07-21 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:35, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: A good point - now's an excellent time to start using it. it can be used for a soft interaction -- a warning on installation if the activity might

[Sugar-devel] reorganized the karma repo

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
pls let me know what you think http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/karma/repos/mainline/trees/master I reorged it according to the bundle layout specified here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Bundle_layout -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] Sharing Images in the neighborhood - Buddy Tag

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Hi Server people, I wanted to make sure the server people saw this Buddy Tagging proposal as it might be something that could be more easily accomplished with Moodle's help. Good point. I don't know Kartik

Re: [Sugar-devel] journal concerns (was Re: Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak)

2009-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:07, Albert Cahalanacaha...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked, the Journal interface... a. required piles of custom D-BUS code (very painful to do) This hasn't been a problem for other

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] Sharing Images in the neighborhood - Buddy Tag

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:42, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Hi Server people, I wanted to make sure the server people saw this Buddy Tagging proposal as it might be something that could be

Re: [Sugar-devel] reorganized the karma repo

2009-07-21 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Looks good to me! :-) Bryan Berry schrieb: pls let me know what you think http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/karma/repos/mainline/trees/master I reorged it according to the bundle layout specified here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Bundle_layout -- Christoph Derndorfer

[Sugar-devel] menustage becomes karmaplatz.html

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
unless u have any strong objections, let's rename it to karmaplatz.html platz means plaza in German. karmaplatz sounds so odd that it is both memorable while at the same time easy to spell. -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] Sharing Images in the neighborhood - Buddy Tag

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Can you extend on that? I think we need to extend telepathy-gabble a bit to add buddy tagging. Or are you referring to regular jabber groups? Regular jabber groups. Once you make a group of users (a course in Moodle

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] Sharing Images in the neighborhood - Buddy Tag

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:25, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Can you extend on that? I think we need to extend telepathy-gabble a bit to add buddy tagging. Or are you referring to regular jabber groups?

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Hello, Peter et al. - Your latest Csound5.10 patch finally made it out to updates-testing today, and I was able to install it on SoaS (Sugar 84) and test it out. Unfortunately it aborts with much the same (if not exactly) as before. Log: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak

2009-07-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.07.2009, at 04:07, Albert Cahalan wrote: Caroline Meeks writes: 1. Tux Paint - Waiting for it to save to the Journal before we let the kids use it Last I checked, the Journal interface... a. required piles of custom D-BUS code (very painful to do) Indeed, the D-Bus datastore

Re: [Sugar-devel] menustage becomes karmaplatz.html

2009-07-21 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'd still go for karmaindex.html :) 2009/7/21 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: unless u have any strong objections, let's rename it to karmaplatz.html platz means plaza in  German. karmaplatz sounds so odd that it is both memorable while at the same time easy to spell. -- Bryan W. Berry

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Could you point me to this thing's git repository ? Looks like some files need to updated. -sdg- On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, apparently Seth didn't find time to fix Help. Can anyone help? At least can someone give directions on how

[Sugar-devel] GPA reports and target features

2009-07-21 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I came up with a strategy to focus development on a successful Sugar implementation in a single school. On the reports: I updated the Sugarlabs GPA wiki page with some more links to the reports: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy#Class_notes In the future I will try to

[Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Walter, Caroline and Dave, Looking at the list of main goals for GPA (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Goals), I see two top priority items: - Collaboration - Backup and restore I think the first is done. That is we have a plan to use local collaboration (I believe that means

Re: [Sugar-devel] help about the get_preview function of activity.Activity class to take screenshots

2009-07-21 Thread sumit singh
Hi Tomeu, Thanx a lot for the function. I would be using it as of now while creating the infrastructure for the activity, would try to provide support to both the new as well as the previous builds. I would be testing the function on my 0.82 build soon. Moreover, I am also planning to move to

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Greg Smith gregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Walter, Caroline and Dave, Looking at the list of main goals for GPA (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Goals), I see two top priority items: - Collaboration - Backup and restore I think the first is

Re: [Sugar-devel] need a better name for starting page of karma than MenuStage

2009-07-21 Thread Felipe López Toledo
I'm agree with NoiseEHC, something in english will work. karmaindex.html kindex.html index.html karmaplatz.html directory.html ... ? 2009/7/21 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu Could you please name those items in English? I suggest this because probably Karma is one of the most important things

Re: [Sugar-devel] Correct use of leading underscores in Python?

2009-07-21 Thread Jim Simmons
Martin, The comparison to Java is a good one. I program in Java for a living and find that I tend to think of my Activity logic in Java terms then translate the concept to Python. I do the same thing with pygtk and Java Swing. Last night I removed most of the leading underscores from my code.

Re: [Sugar-devel] reorganized the karma repo

2009-07-21 Thread Felipe López Toledo
great! I found the same files into /mainline/js and /mainline/examples/x/ js I'll fix it, so each activity will work with the new structure ;) felipe 2009/7/21 Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com Looks good to me! :-) Bryan Berry schrieb: pls let me know what you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 9, Issue 136

2009-07-21 Thread Jim Simmons
Albert, It is possible to work with the Journal entries in the way you want to. I've only done this in Python, in the View Slides Activity, but it could be done other ways too I'm sure. In View Slides I open a table that lists out all of the image files in the Journal (which includes the

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA reports and target features

2009-07-21 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Greg Smithgregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I came up with a strategy to focus development on a successful Sugar implementation in a single school. That is an outstanding idea. By focusing on an implementation at a single school: 1. _All_ fixes identified

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA reports and target features

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 15:39, Greg Smithgregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I came up with a strategy to focus development on a successful Sugar implementation in a single school. On the reports: I updated the Sugarlabs GPA wiki page with some more links to the reports:

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Art, I reconstituted my USB drive as indicated in my mail of a few hours ago. Same behavior as before, but the execution stops at import csnd this time (a step earlier). Log: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Bastian, On 21 Jul 2009, at 15:39, Bastien wrote: Hi Sayamindu, thans in advance for your help. The original Help activity repo is here: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/help The derived Helpfr activity is here: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/helpfr They both rely on the same

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - andOLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Art Hunkins
As likely expected, the output to your first command is: csound-5.10.1-9.f11.i586 and to the second, nothing. Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: Sugar devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - andOLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Can you do a yum install -y csound-python and see how you get on from there. csound-python contains the following files (which might be useful :-) ) # rpm -ql csound-python /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/_csnd.so /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:15, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Greg, On 21 Jul 2009, at 14:51, Greg Smith wrote: I may also add a feature to share a file from one computer to another. I want to see a lesson plan needing that first. Then I'll try out the suggestions recently

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Bastien
Hi Gary, thanks for the warnings. Are the Help/Helpfr activities the only two instances of such compatibility issue with 0.82 and 0.84 hulahop versions? If not, what are the other decisions that have been made? I think the current Help doesn't need to be upgraded, as it contains

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Bastien
Sayamindu: maybe we can meet on #sugar and interact while you're making this change about Helpfr? I'm curious what part of it I can understand with my very basic knowledge of python... Thanks, -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Gary C Martin
On 21 Jul 2009, at 21:24, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:15, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Have you tried using the Send to -- friend Journal feature? Obviously you need local collaboration working first, and added some friends:

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:56, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 21 Jul 2009, at 21:24, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:15, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Have you tried using the Send to -- friend Journal feature? Obviously you need local collaboration

Re: [Sugar-devel] amRe: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick -andOLPCsound/Csound

2009-07-21 Thread Art Hunkins
Interesting result - no doubt suggestive (from terminal output): [liveu...@localhost /]$ su [r...@localhost /]# yum install -y csound-python Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit fedora/metalink | 16 kB 00:00 fedora Text clipping | 3.8 kB 00:00 fedora/primary_db | 8.4 MB 00:15 sugar | 1.2 kB

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Bastien, On 21 Jul 2009, at 21:02, Bastien wrote: thanks for the warnings. Are the Help/Helpfr activities the only two instances of such compatibility issue with 0.82 and 0.84 hulahop versions? If not, what are the other decisions that have been made? There was at least one other break

[Sugar-devel] question about: Main Karma Package

2009-07-21 Thread Felipe López Toledo
Hi Bryan. I have one question about http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Bundle_layout I'm working with our new layout ;) until yesterday, each lesson could work independently. each lesson had their own js files. The beauty of that way, was that you could take a specific lesson folder and put it

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Greg, On 21 Jul 2009, at 14:51, Greg Smith wrote: I may also add a feature to share a file from one computer to another. I want to see a lesson plan needing that first. Then I'll try out the suggestions

Re: [Sugar-devel] menustage becomes karmaplatz.html

2009-07-21 Thread Felipe López Toledo
I'd go for index.html but maybe it's pretty common and...that's for devs :) other options I propose (*.html): kindex start kstart root kroot ... sorry english is not my primary language felipe (still thinking) 2009/7/21 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com I'd still go for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Bastien
I've digged thru the activities and I found that SocialCalc was using hulahop as well. SocialCalc is running fine on my sugar-jhbuild so I thought I could just try to understand how to start a hulahop instance from the code there. I attach the result of this experiment. This is the *simplest*

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-57

2009-07-21 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Url: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Release notes: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027#release-notes Reviewer comments: Trusted activity Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Conozco Uruguay-6

2009-07-21 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Url: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4199 Release notes: This version solves the scaling problem. It was tested on sugar-jhbuild, an XO with OLPC 8.2, and Sugar on a Stick. Reviewer comments: This request has been approved. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-57

2009-07-21 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:33:35PM -0400, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Release notes: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027#release-notes Is it just me, or do other folks think it would be more useful to actually post the release notes instead of just a link to the release notes?

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-57

2009-07-21 Thread Walter Bender
I don't know the code base, but if it is not too difficult, it would be useful. -walter On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Joshua N Pritikinjpriti...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:33:35PM -0400, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Release notes:

Re: [Sugar-devel] question about: Main Karma Package

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:49 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: Hi Bryan. I have one question about http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Bundle_layout I'm working with our new layout ;) until yesterday, each lesson could work independently. each lesson had their own js files. The beauty of

[Sugar-devel] karma dictionary started

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
i have started a dictionary so we can keep the terminology specific to karma straight http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Dictionary -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-57

2009-07-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:52:30AM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:33:35PM -0400, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Release notes: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027#release-notes Is it just me, or do other folks think it would be more useful to actually

Re: [Sugar-devel] karma dictionary started

2009-07-21 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Great idea! I've added explainations next to the terms in the dictionary as to make them understandable for everyone. Christoph 2009/7/22 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org i have started a dictionary so we can keep the terminology specific to karma straight

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1088 UNSP: change ASLO favicon

2009-07-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 05:30:12AM -, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: #1088: change ASLO favicon --+- Reporter: RafaelOrtiz| Owner: alsroot Type: enhancement

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1088 UNSP: change ASLO favicon

2009-07-21 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
I would like this one for ASLO. :) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/5/50/Favicon_05.png Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 05:30:12AM -, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: #1088: change ASLO favicon