Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.86 Activity Release Notes

2009-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/13/2009 11:42 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Dear Sucrose Activity Maintainers, for the 0.86 Release notes I need your help. It would be awesome to get detailed notes for each activity. Definitely the Fructose ones - as well the Honey activities are welcome. Please use the Template [1]

[Sugar-devel] Sep 14th 2009 --- Sucrose 0.86 Triaging day

2009-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar community, we will have a go to triage the existing bugs today. This will help us to be better informed which bugs are the most critical ones and needs direct attention in order to get fixed for 0.86. Early bird triagers can start from 7:00 (UTC). We meet in #sugar-meeting

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.85.6 Development Release

2009-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar Community, This is the last development release in the 0.86 release cycle - see the 0.86 schedule [1] for more details. Note, that we are one week away from our final release! Please test the landed features [2] carefully (the individual Feature pages contain test cases). Please

Re: [Sugar-devel] Window properties?

2009-09-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: When I run Etoys in a recent jhbuild, the shell does not recognize the Etoys window. It displays a gray circle in the frame instead, and after quitting Etoys, the launch icon is still blinking. I verified using xprop

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] Meeting agenda for meeting tomorrow

2009-09-14 Thread Bryan Berry
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma:Meeting_14_Sep_2009 This is a tentative agenda i have put together. Pls add anything u think is needed. as always, our weekly meeting is Tuesday 02:15 UTC As KChristophD won't be here this week, we can move it up to 00:15 UTC if others prefer that -- Bryan

Re: [Sugar-devel] Soas3-200909132138 Font too large. Unable to see all of zyx-liveinstaller and gparted. _(most off terminal and unreachable)

2009-09-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:12, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: I just tried Snapshot Soas3-200909132138 (and SoaS3-200909131305 ) in VM Workstation. Comments: 1.) Fonts are much too large. I am not able to see all of the screen of zyx-liveinstaller or gparted. (critical

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] ColorButton

2009-09-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
Aleksey Lim writes: Another option is that picker should contain only predefined colors (and maybe one custom) by default and having click-to-close behaviour. Then if users want to make(change) custom color, they click add.. (or so) button and palette opens right panel and click on predefined

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Fwd: #806 UNSP: Activities list view is very similar to Journal view and users delete activities instead of journal entries

2009-09-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, any comments about this user report? Thanks, Tomeu -- Forwarded message -- From: SugarLabs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org Date: Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 22:25 Subject: #806 UNSP: Activities list view is very similar to Journal view and users delete activities instead of

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Art-66

2009-09-14 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29248 Release notes: * added support for old toolbar design (0.82-0.84) * work around Rainbow problem with image save * activate Stop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Window properties?

2009-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.09.2009, at 09:40, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: When I run Etoys in a recent jhbuild, the shell does not recognize the Etoys window. It displays a gray circle in the frame instead, and after quitting Etoys, the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Project Guidelines posted

2009-09-14 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 12:25 -0500, David Farning wrote: Project/SIGs are product focused.  The exist to help guide a project through it's life cycle.  For example, there has recently been some rather heated discussions

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

2009-09-14 Thread Sean DALY
As long as no one (including developers) is confused that SoaS release 1( Strawberry) alias SoaS-2 is running Sugar v0.84 and Fedora 11. I'm just wondering why SoaS-2 is in use... non-initiates will assume that means SoaS release 2 (Blueberry), don't you think? thanks Sean On Mon, Sep 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Project Guidelines posted

2009-09-14 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:21 -0500, David Farning wrote: The work going on in Nepal is one of the primary reasons for establishing SIGs and projects. Nepal is doing an amazing job of creating solutions for local problems. Sigs/projects are a place where deployments can share ideas and work

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to add karma api to api.sugarlabs.org?

2009-09-14 Thread Bryan Berry
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 14:02 -0500, David Farning wrote: This is going to involve digging into some code that has been running for over a year without being touched--I think I rebooted the build server once in that time. Could u just give us a folder off of api.sl.o? like api.sl.o/karma/ or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Project Guidelines posted

2009-09-14 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:21 -0500, David Farning wrote: The work going on in Nepal is one of the primary reasons for establishing SIGs and projects.  Nepal is doing an amazing job of creating solutions for local problems.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:17:42AM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: [non-release-naming issue] Please take this to the mailing list to which it belongs: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org. Bill Bogstad Martin pgpnUhR2RRAF1.pgp Description: PGP signature

[Sugar-devel] SoaS /etc/fedora-release identification string (was: Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming)

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 04:27:29PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: As long as no one (including developers) is confused that SoaS release 1( Strawberry) alias SoaS-2 The alias is for the developers to use. It is stored in a file called /etc/fedora-release. We need to be precise here: For the CD

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: As long as no one (including developers) is confused that SoaS release 1( Strawberry) alias SoaS-2 is running Sugar v0.84 and Fedora 11. I'm just wondering why SoaS-2 is in use... non-initiates will assume that means

[Sugar-devel] Webtech SIG was Re: [IAEP] Project Guidelines posted

2009-09-14 Thread Bryan Berry
on a related note, I would love to see a broader webtech SIG focused on bringing web technologies to Sugar. W/ the likelihood of hardware acceleration for webkit and gecko in the next couple years, we ignore these technologies at our peril. Mihai Sucan believes that js+html5 application

[Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
This document is an open letter written to the Sugar Labs community. It is an attempt to clear up the recent confusion about SoaS and let community members know what SoaS is, what our goals are with regards to it, and what possibilities we're considering for the future - both technical and

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: +1 to pretty much your whole message. I would like a little clarification though on the boundaries of SoaS. My interpretation is as follows: SoaS takes the XO 1-1 model and replaces the one machine per student

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Short Term Action Items: * We create a SoaS mailing list. * We establish the SoaS development team. if you split off sugar-dev, to reach the involved people you either have to crosspost all the time, or get everyone

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick (was [Sugar-Devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick)

2009-09-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Short Term Action Items: * We create a SoaS mailing list. * We establish the SoaS development team. if you split off sugar-dev, to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick (was [Sugar-Devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick)

2009-09-14 Thread Luke Faraone
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 13:56, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: To Martin's point, how about the routine use of a filterable tag, [SoaS] , in the Subject to messages appropriately routed to either IAEP or Devel or both? I just created a Sugar on a Stick topic on Sugar-Devel's

[Sugar-devel] Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.

2009-09-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
I'd like to announce to just the sugar development list at this point. We are ready for the first tests of backup and restore on a Sugar Stick. We will be using this code for both Sugaronastick.com and the GPA but each will point to a different XS server so we can have GPA XS be school people

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 07:47:21PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Short Term Action Items: * We create a SoaS mailing list. * We establish the SoaS development team. if you split off sugar-dev, to reach the involved

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick (was [Sugar-Devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick)

2009-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:04:28PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 13:56, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: To Martin's point, how about the routine use of a filterable tag, [SoaS] , in the Subject to messages appropriately routed to either IAEP or Devel or both?

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

2009-09-14 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Sean DALY wrote: Sebastian, what's your take? Can we retire SoaS-{1,2,3} or fold them into the public v1, v2 numbers? Okay, let me shed some light in here, though I think this has already been discussed in length. In the early days when I started working on SoaS, we still had internal builds

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 07:47:21PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Short Term Action Items: * We create a SoaS mailing list. * We establish the SoaS development team. if you split off

Re: [Sugar-devel] Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.

2009-09-14 Thread Luke Faraone
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 14:04, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.comwrote: To test click Get Sugar at www.sugaronastick.com http://www.sugaronastick.com/ and http://sugaronastick.com/ point to different websites. The first doesn't even seem to be tangentially related to sugar. -- Luke

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick (was [Sugar-Devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick)

2009-09-14 Thread Bill Bogstad
b On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 13:56, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: To Martin's point, how about the routine use of a filterable tag, [SoaS] , in the Subject to messages appropriately routed to either IAEP or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick (was [Sugar-Devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick)

2009-09-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 13:56, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: To Martin's point, how about the routine use of a filterable tag, [SoaS] , in the Subject to messages appropriately routed to either IAEP or Devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick (was [Sugar-Devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick)

2009-09-14 Thread Luke Faraone
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 16:05, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I would prefer to filter messages client side rather than having something enforced on me. Er, it's not *enforced*, as if you don't specify any topic you'll get all mail sent to the list. Please see the help text Kevin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.

2009-09-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
opps! Fixed. Thanks Shovel Ready Ed is in fact tangentially related. Its a single sign-on integration of Moodle, ELGG and LAMS, all open source software for education. Moodle you guys know, ELGG is used for ePortfololios and LAMS is Learning Activity Management. The target market in Middle school

Re: [Sugar-devel] Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:04:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: To test click Get Sugar at www.sugaronastick.com We have named this Spin Strawberry Tree as its done by Solution Grove based on the Strawberry Release. [...] Please email your feedback! Can we look at the code anywhere? Thank

Re: [Sugar-devel] Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.

2009-09-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:04:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: To test click Get Sugar at www.sugaronastick.com We have named this Spin Strawberry Tree as its done by Solution Grove based on the Strawberry

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.86 Activity Release Notes

2009-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/14/2009 08:17 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 09/13/2009 11:42 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Dear Sucrose Activity Maintainers, for the 0.86 Release notes I need your help. It would be awesome to get detailed notes for each activity. Definitely the Fructose ones - as well the Honey

Re: [Sugar-devel] Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 05:37:01PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:04:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: To test click Get Sugar at www.sugaronastick.com We have named this Spin

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
+1 I made a similar suggestion a couple of weeks back. Thinking as someone who will probably be in it up to his neck, on the teaching side, what I would like to see is a polished distribution, installable on a hard disk, released once a year around April-May. That will give me all summer to

[Sugar-devel] zyx-liveinstaller errors SoaS3-200909132138.iso

2009-09-14 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
In Vmworkstation install try in sugar terminal: terminal errors (roughly copied by hand) File /usr/lib/Python 2.6/site-packages/rli/installer.py line179, in run-ext-installer invalid literal for float () %

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2306

2009-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2306.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-106.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2306-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-106.xo ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Bill Bogstad
2009/9/14 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: +1 I made a similar suggestion a couple of weeks back. Thinking as someone who will probably be in it up to his neck, on the teaching side, what I would like to see is a polished distribution, installable on a hard disk, released once a year

[Sugar-devel] Trac maintenance

2009-09-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
== Hostname change == Our trac instance is now reachable as bugs.sugarlabs.org. The old hostname dev.sugarlabs.org is not going away anytime soon, but please update your links for consistency. == Plugin updates == I refreshed all plugins with the latest versions and generally cleaned up the