Re: [Sugar-devel] Latest school-ready image for XOs?

2009-11-03 Thread Peter Robinson
For F-12 / SoaS 2 it should be in the current test release. For F-11 / SoaS 1 it is currently in updates-testing. The build in both cases is csound-5.10.1-13 Regards, Peter On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Hello, Peter, Does this mean that you've pushed

[Sugar-devel] In gconf-based Sugar, how do I read config values (nickname, etc)...

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
from bash / commandline scripts that may not be executing in the user session. For example - olpc-netstatus may be invoked from a VT running as root - ds-backup scripts are invoked from from cron m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask

Re: [Sugar-devel] In gconf-based Sugar, how do I read config values (nickname, etc)...

2009-11-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 09:55, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: from bash / commandline scripts that may not be executing in the user session. For example  - olpc-netstatus may be invoked from a VT running as root  - ds-backup scripts are invoked from from cron If it's only

Re: [Sugar-devel] In gconf-based Sugar, how do I read config values (nickname, etc)...

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: If it's only for reading, I think the following should work: gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:$HOME/.gconf -g key Excellent - thanks! m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School

Re: [Sugar-devel] In gconf-based Sugar, how do I read config values (nickname, etc)...

2009-11-03 Thread James Cameron
I used this as root: su -c gconftool-2 --get /desktop/sugar/user/nick olpc -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] is csound-python part of the Sugar Platform?

2009-11-03 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.84/Platform_Components doesn't make it clear. Is csound-python part of the Sugar platform? For old OLPC builds, olpcsound did include the csound python module, although this was unused by all of the standard OLPC-shipped activities. (TamTam uses csound

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
FYI the .vmdk in soas04.zip halts with no text right after GRUB starts. Any suggestions for kernel parameters to try? Strawberry was quite different- the root was specified by some kind of hash code, was mounted rw (now it's ro) and the liveimage, quiet and rghb options were set. Blueberry has

Re: [Sugar-devel] On Sugar 0.84 - status of the Chat/collab leader issue...

2009-11-03 Thread Walter Bender
We can set a new baseline for Sugar, but the behavior you are describing is largely one determined by the activities themselves. This was the subject of Ben Schwartz's GSoC project. He made great headway, but there remains the problem that most activities are not utilizing his approach. Something

Re: [Sugar-devel] need to drain the battery quickly

2009-11-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Donna, On 3 Nov 2009, at 04:07, Donna Auguste wrote: I am testing the discharge and recharge of XO batteries. Can anyone who is familiar with all of the apps tell me what app, or test case running within an app, will drain the battery the fastest? I'm pretty sure having the Record

Re: [Sugar-devel] On Sugar 0.84 - status of the Chat/collab leader issue...

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: We can set a new baseline for Sugar, but the behavior you are describing is largely one determined by the activities themselves. I understood it was a limitation in Telepathy itself, or in how Sugar uses it (hence the

Re: [Sugar-devel] On Sugar 0.84 - status of the Chat/collab leader issue...

2009-11-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Martin, On 3 Nov 2009, at 13:18, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: We can set a new baseline for Sugar, but the behavior you are describing is largely one determined by the activities themselves. I understood it was a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Submitting New Activities

2009-11-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:18:21PM -0500, Art Hunkins wrote: All is good now. Prior to this evening, Our Music MC was not showing up as an activity for me. (I appreciate David having uploaded both activities, and am sorry the MC version was late appearing.) Now it is here, and I have

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Sugar Digest 2009-11-02

2009-11-03 Thread Walter Bender
I must not be getting enough sleep. I forgot to CC iaep and dev. -walter -- Forwarded message -- From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:53 PM Subject: Sugar Digest 2009-11-02 To: community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org === Sugar Digest === 1. Steve

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to virtual machines. Due to a typo in the Makefile the file that was supposed to be called

Re: [Sugar-devel] On Sugar 0.84 - status of the Chat/collab leader issue...

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Other activities that support some form of collaboration like Chat, Browse, Etoys, TurtleArt, Arithmetic, Maze, Pippy, etc, etc, don't care who started the activity first, or who goes away. Are you positive about this? I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to virtual machines.

Re: [Sugar-devel] On Sugar 0.84 - status of the Chat/collab leader issue...

2009-11-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Other activities that support some form of collaboration like Chat, Browse, Etoys, TurtleArt, Arithmetic, Maze, Pippy, etc, etc, don't care who started the activity first, or who goes away. Are

[Sugar-devel] pippy woes

2009-11-03 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Latest pippy on activities.sugarlabs.org is v35, but the latest one in git is v34. Please could git be updated? activities.sugarlabs.org says that pippy v35 is only for Sugar v0.86 and newer, is that true? Does groupthink require this? pippy is currently broken because of:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: Sugar Digest 2009-11-02

2009-11-03 Thread Walter Bender
I think there are more recommended activities than fit at any one time. They are chosen randomly from the list. As to how the list is compiled, I do not know, but I believe that Etoys is already a recommended activity. I'll double-check. -walter On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Rita Freudenberg

Re: [Sugar-devel] On Sugar 0.84 - status of the Chat/collab leader issue...

2009-11-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 15:07, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Other activities that support some form of collaboration like Chat, Browse, Etoys, TurtleArt, Arithmetic, Maze,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] replace Keep and Stop accelerators

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: Committed. Sayamindu, can we get this included in our builds? On os34 I've just hand-applied this patch on my Terminal so that emacs is usable... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School

[Sugar-devel] XO-2 canceled, replaced by XO-1.75 and XO-3.0

2009-11-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
The ever entertaining Prof. Negroponte surpasses all expectations in his latest performance: http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/11/02/negroponte-outlines-the-future-of-olpc-hints-at-paperlike-design-for-third-generation-laptop/ The usual OLPCNews analysis at

[Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
Attached is a trivial patch that handles gracefully the situation where cwd does not exist anymore or is no longer accessible to the olpc user. Without it, - mount a usb disk - open Terminal.xo, change directory to /media/my-usb-disk/ - close Terminal.xo - unmount / remove usb disk - try to

[Sugar-devel] Sugar on OpenMoko Freerunner

2009-11-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi all, [please follow-up only to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org] Not sure if this is news or not: Since thursday afternoon I have been running Sucrose 0.86 (or the fraction of it packaged for Debian) on my OpenMoko Freerunner. The OpenMoko Freerunner is an ARM-based open-hardware

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on OpenMoko Freerunner

2009-11-03 Thread Walter Bender
Cool. Can you post some pictures? -walter On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi all, [please follow-up only to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org] Not sure if this is news or not: Since thursday afternoon I have been running Sucrose 0.86 (or the fraction of

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-2 canceled, replaced by XO-1.75 and XO-3.0

2009-11-03 Thread Sean DALY
creates lots of work for me clarifying geese, ganders and goslings for journalists you mean ;-) Sean On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Well, at least that gets the journalists off our backs and chasing a wild goose, so we can focus on getting

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-2 canceled, replaced by XO-1.75 and XO-3.0

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
Well, at least that gets the journalists off our backs and chasing a wild goose, so we can focus on getting XO-1.5 (and in my case XS 0.7 work) done... :-) cheers, m On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: The ever entertaining Prof. Negroponte

Re: [Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

2009-11-03 Thread paul fox
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Attached is a trivial patch that handles gracefully the situation where cwd does not exist anymore or is no longer accessible to the olpc user. frankly, i think the whole state-saving notion in Terminal (and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:08 PM, paul fox p...@laptop.org wrote: frankly, i think the whole state-saving notion in Terminal (and other terminal emulators i've seen) is flawed, and a bad idea, for I agree. The patch above is merely an attempt at fixing a OMG! Can't use my Terminal! moment. Happy

Re: [Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

2009-11-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Martin Langhoff wrote: use GNU Screen! :-) -- now that would be something: GNU Screen integrated with xterm. Not to toot my own horn, but GNU Screen + OpenSSH + Terminal.xo = ShareTerm : http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-May/014165.html Doesn't help you with persistence,

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bookreader] Newbie question: where's help most dearly needed?

2009-11-03 Thread Sean DALY
-- Forwarded message -- From: Andreas Gros i...@andreasgros.net Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM Subject: [Bookreader] Newbie question: where's help most dearly needed? To: bookrea...@lists.laptop.org Dear all, as I am new to this list I would very much like to know how to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: Sugar Digest 2009-11-02

2009-11-03 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are more recommended activities than fit at any one time. They are chosen randomly from the list. As to how the list is compiled, I do not know, but I believe that Etoys is already a recommended

Re: [Sugar-devel] is csound-python part of the Sugar Platform?

2009-11-03 Thread Art Hunkins
*Wonderful*. Many thanks to everyone involved (and you are legion). Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org; Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org; Sugar-dev Devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: Sugar Digest 2009-11-02

2009-11-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are more recommended activities than fit at any one time. They are chosen randomly from the list. As to how the list is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: Sugar Digest 2009-11-02

2009-11-03 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are more recommended activities than fit at any one

Re: [Sugar-devel] [pkg-fso-maint] Sugar on OpenMoko Freerunner

2009-11-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Arne (and others), On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 05:50:51PM +0100, arne anka wrote: I needed to temporarily hack the Sugar-toolkit library to not run the initial what-is-your-name window in fullscreen, to allow a virtual keyboard to appear - as the device have no interface for a real keyboard.

[Sugar-devel] slides to help a new sugar/pygtk developer

2009-11-03 Thread Mike Major
hi everyone, my name is Mike Major. i and my team created an activity for the Math4 project called Hop-A-Round. it addresses rounding numbers up to 100,000. http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4209 i started developing the activity back in june. at the time i was completely new

Re: [Sugar-devel] is csound-python part of the Sugar Platform?

2009-11-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:35:12AM +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.84/Platform_Components doesn't make it clear. Is csound-python part of the Sugar platform? In my mind its wasn't part of SP-0.84, we didn't have activities (at least on ASLO) that use python

Re: [Sugar-devel] is csound-python part of the Sugar Platform?

2009-11-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Art Hunkins wrote: Please do include csound-python. I'd like my new activities to work right out of the box. On a side-note, we've already included it in the latest SoaS snapshots, so it'll make it's way into the Blueberry release. --Sebastian Hopefully, doing so will also encourage others

Re: [Sugar-devel] is csound-python part of the Sugar Platform?

2009-11-03 Thread Art Hunkins
Please do include csound-python. I'd like my new activities to work right out of the box. Hopefully, doing so will also encourage others to write activities that use Csound. I, for one, would *never* have attempted an activity if it weren't for csound-python and Victor Lazzarini's csndsugui (a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Bookreader] Text to Speech readers for XO

2009-11-03 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
The Internet Archive has started to distribute books as DAISY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAISY_Digital_Talking_Book), something we should definitely take a look at. We might also consider leveraging the GNOME accessibility framework to provide book-reading features for Epubs and PDFs in Read -

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] questions about jquery.karma.js

2009-11-03 Thread Bryan Berry
I am refactoring jquery.karma.js using test-driven development. I think you did a great job in writing it in the first place, but I am far to lazy to manually test out the entire library every time I make a change. Reading through jquery.karma.js, I have some questions: --- the init function