Re: [Sugar-devel] some efforts that would be really useful for deployments

2009-11-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Sayamindu, On 25 Nov 2009, at 16:55, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: ..snip snip Another constant headache is with translations. How do you roll

Re: [Sugar-devel] some efforts that would be really useful for deployments

2009-11-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe using a GConf key would be easier here ? Let's make that kind of stuff a conffile. When you spin a custom image for a

Re: [Sugar-devel] some efforts that would be really useful for deployments

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: Gconf is too brittle for this. Actually we are already using GConf for somewhat similar stuff. For example, by default Sugar provides a log-out button which is disabled via setting the right GConf key in the XO

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] CMDA/GSM/3G Modem Support in Sugar

2009-11-27 Thread Daniel Castelo
We are thinking in add CMDA/GSM/3G Modems Support in Sugar. We want to discuss the best interface to allow user configure and use this type of connections. The basical idea that we managed is to have an option in control panel to allow users to setup the connection, and a device icon in the bottom

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Sliderule-6

2009-11-27 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4222 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26474/sliderule-6.xo Release notes: * fixed bug in pre-0.86 toolbars that was preventing launching Sugar Labs Activities

[Sugar-devel] F11 for the XO - Build 9 issues

2009-11-27 Thread Steven M. Parrish
I am seeing too many issues with OS9 to be comfortable leaving it in the wild. OS8 is still available and if you have upgraded to OS9 I would suggest reflashing with OS8 until the issues can be resolved.. I have a new release OS10 that I will be testing over the weekend with a goal of

Re: [Sugar-devel] maintenance of 0.84 branches

2009-11-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 13:43, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:53 +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:45 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: We'll need that they make explicit which modules want to take maintenance of and then each current maintainer

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for the XO - Build 9 issues

2009-11-27 Thread Paul Fox
steven m. parrish wrote: I am seeing too many issues with OS9 to be comfortable leaving it in the wild. OS8 is still available and if you have upgraded to OS9 I would suggest reflashing with OS8 until the issues can be resolved.. I have a new release OS10 that I will be testing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Examples in Journal (#1585)

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 02:57:01PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: From: Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: #1585 UNSP: need some way to present examples to other activities Cc: b...@lists.sugarlabs.org Reply-To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009

[Sugar-devel] libabiword with Nepaly bugs fixed?

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Daniel, cannot locate any libabiword-2.6.5-3 -- Did it ever happen? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: upgrade to abiword-2.6.5-2.olpc3 (built ages ago but never shipped by OLPC) to fix problems with scripts such as nepali and arabic (there are still a

Re: [Sugar-devel] libabiword with Nepaly bugs fixed?

2009-11-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 16:10 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi Daniel, cannot locate any libabiword-2.6.5-3 -- Did it ever happen? yes, it's in koji Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Examples in Journal (#1585)

2009-11-27 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 02:57:57PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: IMO examples belong into the Journal as much (or as few, depending on your POV) as activity bundles belong there. Maybe we should hide them in the default view and just show them in specialised ones. Splitting up the

Re: [Sugar-devel] libabiword with Nepaly bugs fixed?

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 16:10 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi Daniel, cannot locate any libabiword-2.6.5-3 -- Did it ever happen? yes, it's in koji Found - thanks. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Examples in Journal (#1585)

2009-11-27 Thread Sascha Silbe
Replying to [comment:3 dsd]: I think you should leave this bug open until it is implemented (or until the discussion outcome decides that this is not necessary). Which is exactly what I did. :) NEEDINFO just means we need outside action (e.g. mailing list discussion). Activity bundles only

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] CMDA/GSM/3G Modem Support in Sugar

2009-11-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:48, Daniel Castelo dcastelo.sugarl...@gmail.com wrote: We are thinking in add CMDA/GSM/3G Modems Support in Sugar. We want to discuss the best interface to allow user configure and use this type of connections. Awesome! The basical idea that we managed is to have

[Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread David Farning
It seems time to think about the next _big_ technical issue for growing Sugar Labs. Clearly articulating the Sugar Stack. For the last year or so, we have been circling the issue with talk of stable APIs, Glucose, Fructose, and expected dependencies. Last year, we created the release cycle. At

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:13:55AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins# [2]

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins# [2]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Examples in Journal (#1585)

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:23:02PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 02:57:57PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: IMO examples belong into the Journal as much (or as few, depending on your POV) as activity bundles belong there. Maybe we should hide them in the default

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] CMDA/GSM/3G Modem Support in Sugar

2009-11-27 Thread Daniel Castelo
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:48, Daniel Castelo dcastelo.sugarl...@gmail.com wrote: We are thinking in add CMDA/GSM/3G Modems Support in Sugar. We want to discuss the best interface to allow user configure and use this

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Zero Install integresion request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Zero_Install_integration The reason for this feature is to cover situations * an activity has dependencies that weren't included to the Sugar * Platform * install/build activity specific binaries * run non-sugar applications that are not well

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Sugar_Bundles One file format to transfer various types of content in/out to/from sugar environment with keeping metadata. In fact, this feature is an end users oriented(technically we not invent super format for various types of content, just

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Moon-11

2009-11-27 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4034 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26476/moon-11.xo Release notes: - Includes latest translations available (many thanks to the translation team) - Support new (0.86) and old

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] CMDA/GSM/3G Modem Support in Sugar

2009-11-27 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:48 -0200, Daniel Castelo wrote: The fields that user should configure are: Tel Number, User Name and Password (which more?) Perhaps APN. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:40:00PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Out of sugar environment, users know that there is only one type of sugar objects and only thing they should do to activate them is uploading .xo file to Journal and click it. What about interacting with non-Sugar environments? What

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.87.1 Tarballs Due

2009-11-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.87.1 unstable release [1] by the end of the 30th of November 2009 and announce them as explained at [2]. Thanks, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.88/Roadmap#Schedule [2]

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88 Development Cycle Schedule

2009-11-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar Community, I am proud to present you the Sucrose 0.88 Schedule [1]! * Dates * We keep the time based 6 months release cycle. Final release will be: 31rd of March 2010. We basically have the same dates as GNOME. Those dates are made in conjunction with the various distributions. So

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: It seems time to think about the next _big_ technical issue for growing Sugar Labs. Clearly articulating the Sugar Stack. For the last year or so, we have been circling the issue with talk of stable APIs, Glucose, Fructose, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 05:56:42PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: Many of the discussion about this have stalled because of confusion over what aspect the stack we are trying to define. As a starting point, I would suggest: 1.

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 05:56:42PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: Many of the discussion about this have stalled because of confusion over what aspect the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:40:00PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Out of sugar environment, users know that there is only one type of sugar objects and only thing they should do to activate them is uploading .xo file to Journal and

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature Policy updated

2009-11-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar community, the Feature policy [1] has been updated. * Why this process * Let me quote the first paragraph to exaplin what this policy is for: The main goal of the feature process is to phrase out the ideas on how Sugar should evolve that are floating around in the community. These

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects(see [1] ml thread) feature but make it less invasive in case existed user experience.

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] TableView Widget request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/TableView_Widget GTK widget to replace gtk.TreeView in Journal. Benefit to Sugar Standard gtk components are not designed to be lazy. Third party widgets, I managed to find, uses scheme with renders(like gtk components), introduced component uses