Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by the activity version number. For example, activities that moved to the new toolbar design are not working for older releases 0.86. I don't think we can always

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects(see [1] ml thread) feature but make it less invasive in case existed

[Sugar-devel] sharing question

2009-11-30 Thread Walter Bender
I have a new activity (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4246) to which I am about to add sharing. It will hat be pretty straight forward in terms of simply exchanging game state and mouse clicks, but I want to be able to let people join in two different ways: as a cooperator or as

Re: [Sugar-devel] sharing question

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 08:35:42AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: I have a new activity (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4246) to which I am about to add sharing. It will hat be pretty straight forward in terms of simply exchanging game state and mouse clicks, but I want to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:34:45PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:54:49PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:34:45PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancement suggestion - Maze

2009-11-30 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Josh, On 30 Nov 2009, at 06:23, Joshua Minor wrote: Looks great to me. Can you wrangle doing a release? My dev/testing environment is way out of date. Sure, will do. I'll create a clone of Maze in git.sl.org and push there until happy. Regards, --Gary -josh On Nov 29, 2009, at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:50:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged, Sugar Platform should be enhanced to include build tools

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] GetBooks version 4

2009-11-30 Thread Jim Simmons
Sayamindu, I tried out your new Get Books on my XO running the latest Fedora 12 install that came out last week. For comparison I ran the same tests on the first version of Get Books which I got from the git clone of Get IA Books that you made. I ran the old one on my Sugar test environment on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 03:10:29PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:50:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by the activity version number. For example, activities that moved to the new toolbar design are not working for older

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by the activity version number. For example,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Aleksey Lim wrote: +1, but maybe use activity_release(or so) instead of dotted_activity_version, the full version in 0.88+ will be activity_version.activity_release? The standard term is minor version number, so minor_version seems appropriate. --Ben

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] aslo - CDN

2009-11-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += sugar-de...@] On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 08:44 -0600, dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Many people have access to the upload directory. We could mitigate this by using separate groups. We already use a soas group for soas. Besides, do the activity authors still need to upload source tarballs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] aslo - CDN

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:17:20PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: [cc += sugar-de...@] On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 08:44 -0600, dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Many people have access to the upload directory. We could mitigate this by using separate groups. We already use a soas group for soas.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
+1 from me for this feature proposal! Both the under-the-hood and user experience simplifications are clear improvements. I would like to see this as a step towards removing the activity list view, which starts to become redundant once activities can be uninstalled from the Journal. I disagree

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can be downloaded, copied, modified, and deleted.  In Sugar terminology,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:58:57PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.11.2009, at 20:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-11-30

2009-11-30 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. We celebrated Thanksgiving here in the U.S. this past week. It is a time for family, food, and what we call football in North America. In my family, I am always tasked with making desserts: pies, cakes, tarts, and cookies. (This year, I made a pumpkin-praline pie, a pecan

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: No, but perhaps we could take this opportunity to reduce this problem... When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle, we ought to display an alert with a scary icon.  The alert should clearly state that Journal entries will no

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: No, but perhaps we could take this opportunity to reduce this problem... When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle, we ought to display an alert with a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: This isn't quite accurate. We've been adding some pre-loaded content to the Journal for quite some time now, Are you sure? Or are you referring to a manual process that you

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2339

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This is a bug fix release for the XO 1.5. Also suited for SoaS (if it's not too late for that). == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2339.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-113.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components Speaking of Etoys - that 0.86 page lists 4.0.2206, whereas the actual Etoys version in the 0.86 release was 4.0.2319 (and 4.0.2332 in 0.86.2). How come? Should I just change it, and if so, to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-11-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components Speaking of Etoys - that 0.86 page lists 4.0.2206, whereas the actual Etoys version in the 0.86 release was 4.0.2319 (and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:18:47PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: This isn't quite accurate. We've been adding some pre-loaded content to the Journal for quite some time now,

[Sugar-devel] please test aslo-web.sugarlabs.org

2009-11-30 Thread dfarning
This evening we brought up aslo-web.sugarlabs.org . It is a exact replica of activities.sugarlabs.org. Within the next couple of day we will be load balancing between them. In the meantime... please test to help us make sure it is set up correctly before it goes into production. david

[Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one place. So, the question is will html page which lists all ASLO activities in microformat enough for OLPC updater. -- Aleksey

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.87.1

2009-11-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.87.1.tar.bz2 == News == - updated translations ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/12/1 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one place. We are using the sugar control panel applet for activity updates as we have done before. So, the

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-base-0.87.1

2009-11-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-base/sugar-base-0.87.1.tar.bz2 == News == version bump ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel