Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN][FEATURE] 3G modem support

2010-01-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/11/2009 08:36 PM, mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: > It has been discussed before and i have been working on it with Daniel > Castelo from Uruguay. > > This is the link of the formal proposal, I will be updating it soon. > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support Hi Martin & Daniel

[Sugar-devel] gbrainy activity

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, by this blog post, it should be possible to reuse some more code when doing an activity based on gbrainy: http://gent.softcatala.org/jmas/bloc/pivot/entry.php?id=439&w=jordis_english_bloc Some pointers about Torello's past related work: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2008/Jan-03.html Rega

Re: [Sugar-devel] [POLL] Dotted Activity Versions

2010-01-14 Thread Gary C Martin
On 14 Jan 2010, at 19:14, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/14/2010 05:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 19:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 06:44:36PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: *** Pending Dotted activity Versions: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [POLL] Dotted Activity Versions

2010-01-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/14/2010 05:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 19:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 06:44:36PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> *** Pending >>> Dotted activity Versions: >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Dotted_Activity_Versions >>> ---> needs an o

Re: [Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:40:50PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > 8.2 on XO-1 > > Excellent -- thanks! > > >> > * timing tuning for some dynamic activities > >> >  (overwise they can brick XO-1) > >> > >> Brick XOs? Do you literally mean b

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:52:28PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: > Tomeu - > > I think everyone should understand that things have changed quite a bit since > January of 2009, and interpreting year-old emails may be a little misleading. > > I think Chris is both right and wrong here. You need to f

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Visual Match-18

2010-01-14 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4246 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26558/visual_match-18.xo Release notes: * word game lists can be edited * Mayan number game * "fileless" SVG generation * fixed SVG problem on ol

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 18:52, Ed McNierney wrote: > Tomeu - > > I think everyone should understand that things have changed quite a bit since > January of 2009, and interpreting year-old emails may be a little misleading. > > I think Chris is both right and wrong here.  You need to first remembe

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GCompris was Re: Sugar Digest 2010-01-07

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 02:44, Caroline Meeks wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 19:24, Caroline Meeks >> wrote: >> >> >> >> === In the community === >> >> >> >> 2. Bruno Coudoin announced the release of GCompris Version 9.0. >> >> Ale

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> On 11 Jan 2010, at 20:44, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Simon Schampijer >>> wrote: On 01/11/2010 06:12 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > My feeling

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 17:19, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:47, Sascha Silbe >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:06:46PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >>>  From what I understand, you need to have the acce

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > We just finished doing exactly that for 10.1.  :) And without any desire to promise much, I am putting the finishing touches on an 8.2.2 maintenance release. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Archit

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > What I don't know is if the contents of that message are still > valid, e.g. "OLPC will not undertake, on its own, another major > release of the software package we currently ship with each XO.". No, not still valid. We just finished doing exactly that for 10.1. :) - Chris. --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Several chapters of "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" ready for review, feedback

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Simmons
I don't know if reading is the first or second most common use of Sugar, but I do think that Sugar as a reading platform has come a long way and a short book on how to get the most out of it might be worthwhile. I was thinking of maybe having chapters on creating e-books for the platform too, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:47, Sascha Silbe > wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:06:46PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >> >>>  From what I understand, you need to have the accessibility bits in >>> Sugar enabled first (atk, etc) for dog

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Several chapters of "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" ready for review, feedback

2010-01-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Great idea to add a section on using sugar to read -- if you include > browsing webpages and offline snapshots, it's by far the 1st or 2nd > most common use of Sugar in most homes and classrooms, and still far > from obvious. I would love to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:47, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:06:46PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > >>  From what I understand, you need to have the accessibility bits in >> Sugar enabled first (atk, etc) for dogtail/ldtp to work. > > IIRC it worked fine for me without chang

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.01.2010, at 16:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 22:00, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:15:46PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> I personally like what Greg Smith did back at OLPC: >>> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_requests >> >> does anyone know th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [POLL] Dotted Activity Versions

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 19:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 06:44:36PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> *** Pending >> Dotted activity Versions: >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Dotted_Activity_Versions >> ---> needs an owner >> ---> final poll to take a decision which sch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature cleanup meeting: 11.01.10 --- Summary

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 18:44, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Hi, > > today we went through the list of Features proposed for the 0.88 release > and pending Feature requests. I will summarize here the outcome: > > *** Accepted: > > Enhanced Color Selector: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Enhanc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN][FEATURE] 3G modem support

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 13:58, Daniel Castelo wrote: > I have improved this feature. I added the connection info "data sent > /received" and "connection time". I am working now in adding the Pin/Puk > configuration. Looks great, when the initial patch gets in, I will review these two patches of y

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Several chapters of "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" ready for review, feedback

2010-01-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Great idea to add a section on using sugar to read -- if you include browsing webpages and offline snapshots, it's by far the 1st or 2nd most common use of Sugar in most homes and classrooms, and still far from obvious. SJ On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Jim Simmons wrote: > Samuel, > > I agre

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 22:00, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:15:46PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> I personally like what Greg Smith did back at OLPC: >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_requests > > does anyone know the right ml link for > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_ro

Re: [Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Is this a known issue, is there a fix? In summary -- yes it's known, and the gcompris bundles of version "10" are the ones to use on 8.2.x -- they are available from this wikipage http://wiki.laptop.org/go/GCompris Hernan - you should re-

Re: [Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > 8.2 on XO-1 Excellent -- thanks! >> > * timing tuning for some dynamic activities >> >  (overwise they can brick XO-1) >> >> Brick XOs? Do you literally mean brick it, or just crash / OOM? > > some dynamic games can eat lots of CPU Right --

Re: [Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:12:11PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > Got similar issue, after upgrading libxml it was ok. > > Was testing same -- and an update to libxml2-2.7.3-1.fc9 and > libxml2-python-2.7.3-1.fc9 (latest in F9 updates) fixe

Re: [Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > Got similar issue, after upgrading libxml it was ok. Was testing same -- and an update to libxml2-2.7.3-1.fc9 and libxml2-python-2.7.3-1.fc9 (latest in F9 updates) fixes the startup. That's good. I still get "Couldn't find the board menu, or

Re: [Sugar-devel] "Error saving" dialog when saving or quitting in 'shared' mode

2010-01-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 13:20, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi Sugaristas, > > I faintly recall a time before the 8.2.0 release when many activities > would show errors when quitting after being set to shared mode. I sure > saw the error a few times, but cannot recall the root cause; just as > surely,

Re: [Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 02:14:27PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi GCompris devs, > > I am seeing a problem with gcompris-connect4-12.xo when used on the > latest stable version of the XO OS (8.2.1 aka "802"). > > The symptom looks a lot like this libxml2-related bug that appeared in > other g

Re: [Sugar-devel] Academic papers about Sugar (UI)

2010-01-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Hi! > > Sorry for the slightly OT post, but I'm having a hard time finding relevant > papers for my diploma thesis. > > I'm looking for papers > a) describing the Sugar Learning Platform (high-level overview, ideas behind > it) and > b) that d

[Sugar-devel] Academic papers about Sugar (UI)

2010-01-14 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hi! Sorry for the slightly OT post, but I'm having a hard time finding relevant papers for my diploma thesis. I'm looking for papers a) describing the Sugar Learning Platform (high-level overview, ideas behind it) and b) that describe ideas used when designing Sugar (e.g. other experimental

[Sugar-devel] gcompris connect4 locking up / oom'ing

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi GCompris devs, I am seeing a problem with gcompris-connect4-12.xo when used on the latest stable version of the XO OS (8.2.1 aka "802"). The symptom looks a lot like this libxml2-related bug that appeared in other gcompris components about 16 months ago -- http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8641 . I

[Sugar-devel] "Error saving" dialog when saving or quitting in 'shared' mode

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Sugaristas, I faintly recall a time before the 8.2.0 release when many activities would show errors when quitting after being set to shared mode. I sure saw the error a few times, but cannot recall the root cause; just as surely, I haven't seen the error for a while. Now, I just got a private

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-14 Thread Carlo Falciola
I attached a very basic mockup idea ... no idea how hard could be to code it... ciao carlo --- Mer 13/1/10, Carlo Falciola ha scritto: > Da: Carlo Falciola > Oggetto: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity > A: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > Data: Mercoledì 13 gennaio 2

Re: [Sugar-devel] gitorious and uploading public key

2010-01-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
(CCed systems@ :) looks like we have porblems in git.sugarlabs.org I've created new project 4 days ago and it's still in creating phase http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/shell/repos/mainline earlier, it took several minutes to create new project. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 04:20:40PM -0500, Rafael E

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:06:46PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: From what I understand, you need to have the accessibility bits in Sugar enabled first (atk, etc) for dogtail/ldtp to work. IIRC it worked fine for me without changes, but it's been a long time and I only tried something very

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:48:17AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > >> Is there an automated test for Sugar or for activities?  Something that >> will act like a user and generate keyboard and mouse actions to exercise >> each feature at least on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:18:14PM -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: it would be nice to explore mago and adapt it to sugar. http://mago.ubuntu.com/ Interesting, yet another project related to LDTP. It would be nice to figure out what the exact relationships between dogtail, LDTP,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automated coverage testing?

2010-01-14 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:48:17AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: Is there an automated test for Sugar or for activities? Something that will act like a user and generate keyboard and mouse actions to exercise each feature at least once. Like Rafael mentioned there was a GSoC project called Suga