[Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: FYI: sugar-jhbuild is currently broken due to upstream (i.e. Gnome/Jhbuild) changes - even upstream itself is broken. Has just been fixed (both upstream and our code). IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run (without further arguments) previously was equivalent to sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator. As this was confusing to quite a few people (they assumed sugar-jhbuild was an alternative to sugar-emulator, whereas it simply builds and runs the latter) I dropped that alias now. Summary: Type sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator instead of sugar-jhbuild run. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:41, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: FYI: sugar-jhbuild is currently broken due to upstream (i.e. Gnome/Jhbuild) changes - even upstream itself is broken. Has just been fixed (both upstream and our code). IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run (without further arguments) previously was equivalent to sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator. As this was confusing to quite a few people (they assumed sugar-jhbuild was an alternative to sugar-emulator, whereas it simply builds and runs the latter) I dropped that alias now. Summary: Type sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator instead of sugar-jhbuild run. Will we need to update any docs? Regards, Tomeu CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLaVLOAAoJELpz82VMF3DaLSAH/2NFa904PF0ujKY5JjsSxOna o0qc1D1cJClioINwMV/FdObnKfk3ZZkWK2NIBdrzKDsc0vt228VpNCMAcIa92Bal XOSJfmSBNuU11tjlQIgt3jKmRvBXEeevzkenAZthYERdhuos8mir1G9ZNNNlRunB smPiFwVRYQOv6pvXQQcEqHhw2fMOvGcILgFMV+soeDjKFJy3VPWm+JeG+f+Q+dMM C38ouk1kdjBsTJBr9uMYXMoVFVKaSLGVg9LXeI50iOgZj08IqG7SIAB8/iF0mwOI K6+hfsUoIu2WrUFS7Xb84zdqiYWDAPjnnbUSxV0v6Mx1ZLie/2Xs0ns7bsWZ8ag= =ifWZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:43:26AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Will we need to update any docs? I have updated the canonical sugar-jhbuild instructions [1] in the meantime. If you know any other docs telling users how to run sugar-emulator inside sugar-jhbuild please point them out to me (will probably get replaced by a link). [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Jhbuild CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] More new and revised chapters of Make Your Own Sugar Activities! ready for review, feedback
In this latest draft I have added a not quite complete chapter on Making Shared Activities. The part that is missing is on using DBus Tubes to remotely call methods, and it's missing because I've never done it. I do plan to learn how to do this, come up with a decent example program (something fancier than Hello Mesh), and write it up in the book, but it will take awhile. The new draft is at: http://objavi.flossmanuals.net/books/ActivitiesGuideSugar-en-2010.02.03-18.11.39.pdf I found out yesterday that copying code from PDF's, either the OBJAVI! version here or the one the Floss Manuals website produces, does NOT work. In one case you get garbage and in the second you get code with no indents. I have set up a Git repository for the sample code in the book and I will change all the references to copying and pasting code to Open file name in the Git project you downloaded. I actually had to learn things about Activity Sharing to write the new chapter, so I am VERY concerned that what I think I learned is correct. I don't want to lead anyone astray! I have reached the point in the book where the stuff I already know is pretty much done. From now on I'll be learning as I go. If you've been giving this project the benefit of the doubt now is a good time to stop doing that. Thanks, James Simmons ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Control Panel Font configuration
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: It may make sense to allow setting of the font as well. While the default Sans may be good enough for most European scripts, it may cause problems for Arabic, Asian, South Asian scripts, etc. Sans usually resolves to DejaVu Sans, etc, which often carry suboptimal glyphs from non Latin scripts (to serve as a worst case fallback if nothing else is available). This can be worked around with clever fontconfig rules, but that would be painful to do for each and every script out there, and it might be useful to allow the user to choose the font-face along with the size. Painful, but I'd argue that this is a necessary part of making a properly localized build. As discussed in another thread recently, it's very confusing to have a plethora of fonts available all with overlapping codesets. Better would be to put in the work to make at least the basic Sans font (and maybe Serif as well) have good coverage of unicode via fontconfig. This is a separate issue from whether the font control panel should allow you to change the system font. I'd say that the font control panel *should* let you customize the font, just because it's fun. I've made similar arguments before about the home screen, colors, etc, etc. It's fun, and it lets kids make the computers their own. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?
Thomas, You should be able to create your web page as a Journal entry with the MIME type of text/html, then use code like that described here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/sugar.datastore.datastore#How_do_I_resume_an_activity_from_the_datastore_programmatically.3F That should open Browse on the Journal entry. I haven't tried it myself, but I have used the other information on that page successfully, including creating Journal entries. James Simmons Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:58:59 +0100 From: Behavior Vehikel b.vehi...@googlemail.com Subject: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity? To: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: eee660ad1002011158p5fbd93faq6bb45f75d5db...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How to start the Browse activity from my own activity? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?
Ugh. I can't imagine that is an officially supported method. - Bert - On 03.02.2010, at 09:41, Jim Simmons wrote: Thomas, You should be able to create your web page as a Journal entry with the MIME type of text/html, then use code like that described here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/sugar.datastore.datastore#How_do_I_resume_an_activity_from_the_datastore_programmatically.3F That should open Browse on the Journal entry. I haven't tried it myself, but I have used the other information on that page successfully, including creating Journal entries. James Simmons Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:58:59 +0100 From: Behavior Vehikel b.vehi...@googlemail.com Subject: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity? To: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: eee660ad1002011158p5fbd93faq6bb45f75d5db...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How to start the Browse activity from my own activity? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?
Hi, You should be able to create your web page as a Journal entry with the MIME type of text/html, then use code like that described here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/sugar.datastore.datastore#How_do_I_resume_an_activity_from_the_datastore_programmatically.3F OK, I will try this way. Next weekend I give the Journal a chance. Thanks Thomas You should be able to create your web page as a Journal entry with the MIME type of text/html, then use code like that described here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/sugar.datastore.datastore#How_do_I_resume_an_activity_from_the_datastore_programmatically.3F -- http://digital-defect.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-02-03 (addendum)
I forgot to mention a few things in yesterday's Digest: (1) We need to put together our Google Summer of Code proposal... please contact me if you are interested in helping. (2) We have several SL proposals submitted to organizations that require voting. Please visit http://www.dmlcompetition.net/pligg/story.php?title=496 and http://refresheverything.com/SugarLabsMassachusetts and cast your vote. (3) The Steven Parrish and team in Paraguay have made great progress on porting Fedora 11 (and Sugar 0.84) to the OLPC XO-1. This will mean that old OLPC hardware will be able to readily run recent versions of Sugar. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature Status
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, today is Feature Freeze [1]! Here is a status on the pending features [2]: *** 3G Support The 3G Feature has been landed. Some improvements for this Feature are pending. *** Enhanced color selector The enhanced color selector has seen some design iterations over the last two weeks. A decision needs to be made which design is picked and the code needs to be reviewed. We have to work together closely now to land this. *** Write to journal anytime No patch has been made to try the behavior to display the Journal when closing for the first time. This looks rather unlikely to land. I have a simple patch that enables the naming alert to be activated from the toolbar at anytime and not automatically activated on stop. Would such a patch be considered for 0.88 and we can revisit for 0.90? (Note that this is a feature that originated in the field.) -walter *** Font configuration We have a design, but no patch for the Control Panel section, yet. *** Thumbs View in Journal We have some code. It has to be reviewed intensely though as it is quite a big refactoring and is based on a new widget (shell scope). Would be nice to land it though. *** Activity version No patch yet. There was agreement on the format though. Unlikely to make it. We will not delay the Feature Freeze and stick to the schedule. If your Feature did not land yet, you can ask for an exception [3]. To request an exception send mail to sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, referencing the patches (ticket) you would like to land. It will have to be granted by two members of the release team (Tomeu and Simon), on the base of community feedback. We will delay the tarballs due to be able to focus on reviews. Regards, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.88/Roadmap#Schedule [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.88/Feature_List [3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#Feature_freeze ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
Sascha, I'm not sure that what you're proposing is any less confusing than what we have now. In my opinion sugar-jhbuild IS an alternative to sugar-emulator, at least if you define sugar-emulator as what is provided as a Sugar environment by Fedora and other distros. You can run either one and it will not be affected by what you have done with the other. I think of sugar-jhbuild as running in its own little world. For instance, I'm going to use sugar-jhbuild run to test using new style Toolbars with my Activities and use the installed sugar-emulator for testing backward compatibility on the same box. Are there any other arguments that you could use with run other than sugar-emulator? James Simmons Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:41:21 +0100 From: Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org Subject: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: 20100203104121.gd12...@twin.sascha.silbe.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: FYI: sugar-jhbuild is currently broken due to upstream (i.e. Gnome/Jhbuild) changes - even upstream itself is broken. Has just been fixed (both upstream and our code). IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run (without further arguments) previously was equivalent to sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator. As this was confusing to quite a few people (they assumed sugar-jhbuild was an alternative to sugar-emulator, whereas it simply builds and runs the latter) I dropped that alias now. Summary: Type sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator instead of sugar-jhbuild run. CU Sascha ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screen blurring using firefox 3.5 and 3.6
On 26 January 2010 17:15, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I have tested firefox 3.5 and 3.6 on the XO with Sugar version sugar-0.81.7-1. I see significant blurring whenever a png image is added for manipulated I also had this issue w/ os10 for 0.84? http://dev.laptop.org/~smparrish/XO-1/builds/OS10/ Just got this email. GMail has been acting very slow recently. Which activity is this, sorry? I could have a go at converting the PNGs into SVG format over the weekend if desired. That way the background would render over the whole screen the animals' distortion would be minimised. Let me know the URI to the git repo. Also, do we know who owns copyright of the images? I can't create derivative works without permission. Also, if this goes ahead, I would like to add to the Open Clipart Library. Is this okay? Thanks, Tim. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure that what you're proposing is any less confusing than what we have now. In my opinion sugar-jhbuild IS an alternative to sugar-emulator, at least if you define sugar-emulator as what is provided as a Sugar environment by Fedora and other distros. You can run either one and it will not be affected by what you have done with the other. I think of sugar-jhbuild as running in its own little world. For instance, I'm going to use sugar-jhbuild run to test using new style Toolbars with my Activities and use the installed sugar-emulator for testing backward compatibility on the same box. Are there any other arguments that you could use with run other than sugar-emulator? Yes: jhbuild run make jhbuild run make check jhbuild run python etc. I think it displays exactly the problem Sascha is trying to fix that people think that sugar-jhbuild is sugar-emulator, instead of (the actual case) jhbuild just being a command that sets some environment variables and then execs the real program, be that sugar-emulator or make or python or whatever. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature Status
On 02/03/2010 09:15 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, today is Feature Freeze [1]! Here is a status on the pending features [2]: *** 3G Support The 3G Feature has been landed. Some improvements for this Feature are pending. *** Enhanced color selector The enhanced color selector has seen some design iterations over the last two weeks. A decision needs to be made which design is picked and the code needs to be reviewed. We have to work together closely now to land this. *** Write to journal anytime No patch has been made to try the behavior to display the Journal when closing for the first time. This looks rather unlikely to land. I have a simple patch that enables the naming alert to be activated from the toolbar at anytime and not automatically activated on stop. Would such a patch be considered for 0.88 and we can revisit for 0.90? (Note that this is a feature that originated in the field.) -walter I agree, this is as an important issue to solve. What about having a button going to the Journal detail view of the entry? This is the logical place to make such additions. Or how do you like the idea to have an option in the activity toolbar for the description [1]? And adding later one for the tags, too? Regards, Simon http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Description.png ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] [DESIGN] Enhanced Color Selector
Thanks Tim for your feedback, On 02/02/2010 11:54 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On 2 February 2010 22:45, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: In the design meeting and the ml-thread the '+' layout and the rows of XOs were favored. Eben brought as well the 'static rows with separated fill/stroke' on the table. Let's try to find an agreement. The proposal looks great. May I suggest a revision to the string literals? Click to change stroke color: = Outline Click to change fill color: = Body Stroke/Fill are terms of art in vector drawing area. My guess is that the terms outline and body (when looking at the XO figure) may be more natural. I guess this is right, stroke/fill are technical terms. Maybe Inline/Outline would work, too? I feel we can omit Click to change or replace it with Choose. I'm pretty sure it'll be obvious by exploration that clicking on the little XOs changes the big one. Choose sounds good to me, too. Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: DML Competition open for resubmissions! All applicants must resubmit by Feb 15th at noon EST
For our attention. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mandy Dailey mandy.dai...@duke.edu Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:01 PM Subject: DML Competition open for resubmissions! All applicants must resubmit by Feb 15th at noon EST To: dmlc2010-applica...@duke.edu The application system for the 2010 HASTAC/MacArthur Foundation Digital Media and Learning Competition is now open for resubmissions. Resubmit your applications here: http://dmlcompetition.net/fastapps/login.php. All applications are due by February 15th at noon EST. The resubmission period is designed to allow you to revise and strengthen your applications by tweaking, editing, broadening, etc. your initial application to incorporate any useful feedback or ideas offered by the public. It is not necessary for you to revise your application based on the feedback you receive, however, all previously submitted applications MUST be resubmitted (even those that have not been edited or changed in any way). The application form has not changed. Resubmitted applications will not be available in the public commenting system until after February 15th. Good luck! ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature Status
On 02/01/2010 07:08 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, today is Feature Freeze [1]! Here is a status on the pending features [2]: *** 3G Support The 3G Feature has been landed. Some improvements for this Feature are pending. *** Enhanced color selector The enhanced color selector has seen some design iterations over the last two weeks. A decision needs to be made which design is picked and the code needs to be reviewed. We have to work together closely now to land this. *** Write to journal anytime No patch has been made to try the behavior to display the Journal when closing for the first time. This looks rather unlikely to land. *** Font configuration We have a design, but no patch for the Control Panel section, yet. *** Thumbs View in Journal We have some code. It has to be reviewed intensely though as it is quite a big refactoring and is based on a new widget (shell scope). Would be nice to land it though. *** Activity version No patch yet. There was agreement on the format though. Unlikely to make it. There is a patch in #1701 for this Feature. Not very invasive. Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] [DESIGN] Enhanced Color Selector
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Thanks Tim for your feedback, On 02/02/2010 11:54 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On 2 February 2010 22:45, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: In the design meeting and the ml-thread the '+' layout and the rows of XOs were favored. Eben brought as well the 'static rows with separated fill/stroke' on the table. Let's try to find an agreement. The proposal looks great. May I suggest a revision to the string literals? Click to change stroke color: = Outline Click to change fill color: = Body These sound good to me. Stroke/Fill are terms of art in vector drawing area. My guess is that the terms outline and body (when looking at the XO figure) may be more natural. I guess this is right, stroke/fill are technical terms. Maybe Inline/Outline would work, too? I feel we can omit Click to change or replace it with Choose. I'm pretty sure it'll be obvious by exploration that clicking on the little XOs changes the big one. Choose sounds good to me, too. We may not even need the instruction at all. I think just using Body: and Outline: labels could suffice. Good suggestions, Eben Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-02-03 (addendum)
FWIW, my activities run perfectly with both Strawberry and Blueberry SoaS plugged into my XO-1. The only small issue I've noticed is that the XO-1 does not close down completely at the end. Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com To: community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: iaep i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; Sugar-dev Devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:11 PM Subject: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-02-03 (addendum) I forgot to mention a few things in yesterday's Digest: (3) The Steven Parrish and team in Paraguay have made great progress on porting Fedora 11 (and Sugar 0.84) to the OLPC XO-1. This will mean that old OLPC hardware will be able to readily run recent versions of Sugar. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
Scott, In the Make Your Own sugar Activities! book I'm doing at Floss Manuals I do refer to sugar-emulator as something distinct from sugar-jhbuild. For instance, I'll say, If you're using sugar-jhbuild under Fedora 11 do this, if you're using sugar-jhbuild do that. Even though technically what I call sugar-jhbuild is not completely different from sugar-emulator the experience of running them is different. In earlier versions ./sugar-jhbuild run would use more recent versions of libraries that were actually installed on the box. Calling ./sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator just sugar-jhbuild is a convenient way to get people to know what you're referring to, even if not strictly accurate. I wasn't aware that run had those options. I don't think it's documented anywhere. James Simmons On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: Are there any other arguments that you could use with run other than sugar-emulator? Yes: jhbuild run make jhbuild run make check jhbuild run python etc. I think it displays exactly the problem Sascha is trying to fix that people think that sugar-jhbuild is sugar-emulator, instead of (the actual case) jhbuild just being a command that sets some environment variables and then execs the real program, be that sugar-emulator or make or python or whatever. --scott ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] INVITATION: Sri Lanka QA Team Call -- Friday 5AM EU Time
Spread the Word if you believe in shipping Quality XO-1 and XO-1.5 software to increasing numbers of OLPC/Sugar kids worldwide -- we *cannot* fix all bugs but we CAN organize what we have -- sanding off rough edges to build a better classroom experience, One Step at a Time. I need 1 or 2 experienced XO/Sugar testing people on this Friday conference call with the professional QA team volunteering from Sri Lanka. Reply to me personally if you've worked alongside any groups like: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WellyNZTesters http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad Or, if you or a trusted friend/colleague have strong/independent QA or volunteer coordinator experience, send them my way -- explaining how they self-organize, balancing end-user requirements *without* involving their own ego, and proactively communicate with their peers. * Reply with your phone number, anywhere worldwide, and the best times to call you * Type /query CanoeBerry at the bottom of http://webchat.freenode.net at diff times of day until you reach me * Include your resume/CV or similar where possible Initial Call is 5AM this Friday for most Europeans/many Africans. Like I said, we don't fart around when our job is reshaping learning around this planet, and I can't promise anything except a position of responsibility you will need to fill. Join James Cameron in Australia, myself in Boston, a rep from New Zealand's longstanding volunteer testing crew, and the core testing team in Sri Lanka as we get organized. Thanks for forwarding! --Holt Subject:Re: Sri Lanka QA Team BACK ON TASK! Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:30:12 +1300 From: Tabitha Roder tabitha.ro...@gmail.com To: olpc...@lists.laptop.org CC: Alastair, Rebecca, Brenda, James, Kapila, Holt Hi NZ testers ...asking for a NZ tester to join this call on Friday at 5pm NZ time: +1 508 389-7333 (free with a full Skype account) Conf Access Code: TO FOLLOW If you can join this call and help with the Sri Lanka quality assurance team that would be great. Thanks Tabitha *Friday 5 February 2010, 04:00:00FRI 09:30(SLanka) FRI 15:00(Aus) FRI 17:00(NZ) THURS 23:00(US/EST)* // ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild run no longer starts sugar-emulator by default
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: In the Make Your Own sugar Activities! book I'm doing at Floss Manuals I do refer to sugar-emulator as something distinct from sugar-jhbuild. For instance, I'll say, If you're using sugar-jhbuild under Fedora 11 do this, if you're using sugar-jhbuild do that. Even though technically what I call sugar-jhbuild is not completely different from sugar-emulator the experience of running them is different. In earlier versions ./sugar-jhbuild run would use more recent versions of libraries that were actually installed on the box. Calling ./sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator just sugar-jhbuild is a convenient way to get people to know what you're referring to, even if not strictly accurate. I wasn't aware that run had those options. I don't think it's documented anywhere. http://live.gnome.org/Jhbuild http://library.gnome.org/devel/jhbuild/unstable/command-reference.html.en#command-reference-run I'm not sure exactly why sugar forked jhbuild, but I'm guessing one of the ways that sugar-jhbuild differs from upstream jhbuild is that the 'run' command used to have a default command. Maybe Sascha can explain the differences. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screen blurring using firefox 3.5 and 3.6
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:33:12AM +1300, Tim McNamara wrote: On 26 January 2010 17:15, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I see significant blurring whenever a png image is added for manipulated Just got this email. GMail has been acting very slow recently. No, it wasn't GMail's fault ... this was a message with large attachment that was held in the mailing list moderation queue and only recently released. The thread has progressed since then. Which activity is this, sorry? Firefox and Browse. I could have a go at ... It's an interaction between the browser rendering and the graphics subsystems, the blur isn't really an out of focus effect, but incorrect pixels left behind on screen. The thread moved from the mailing list to the bug tracking systems ... have a look at the Sugarlabs ticket #1689 for the discussion since. http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1689 -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature Status
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 02/03/2010 09:15 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, today is Feature Freeze [1]! Here is a status on the pending features [2]: *** 3G Support The 3G Feature has been landed. Some improvements for this Feature are pending. *** Enhanced color selector The enhanced color selector has seen some design iterations over the last two weeks. A decision needs to be made which design is picked and the code needs to be reviewed. We have to work together closely now to land this. *** Write to journal anytime No patch has been made to try the behavior to display the Journal when closing for the first time. This looks rather unlikely to land. I have a simple patch that enables the naming alert to be activated from the toolbar at anytime and not automatically activated on stop. Would such a patch be considered for 0.88 and we can revisit for 0.90? (Note that this is a feature that originated in the field.) -walter I agree, this is as an important issue to solve. What about having a button going to the Journal detail view of the entry? This is the logical place to make such additions. Or how do you like the idea to have an option in the activity toolbar for the description [1]? And adding later one for the tags, too? I think this is more than adequate. I would have it be additive rather than editing the entire description on the toolbar. -walter Regards, Simon http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Description.png -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] More new and revised chapters of Make Your Own Sugar Activities! ready for review, feedback
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:35:06AM -0600, Jim Simmons wrote: [...] In one case you get garbage and in the second you get code with no indents. I have set up a Git repository for the sample code in the book and I will change all the references to copying and pasting code to Open file name in the Git project you downloaded. I actually had to learn things about Activity Sharing to write the new chapter, so I am VERY concerned that what I think I learned is correct. I don't want to lead anyone astray! Perhaps having your git repository code reviewed by Sugar developers may assist ... with the comment that the purpose of the code is for building more developers. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
