Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove bitmap icon handling from s-p-s

2010-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:14, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:02:26AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 The idea is that the PS is going to disappear soon. Do we really want
 to make such cleanups given that?

 I don't think unimplemented future plans are an acceptable justification
 for refusal of a patch.

It's less unimplemented and less future than what you think :)

And as I said, I cannot really care about this myself, just wanted to
give a bit of input to who are going to take the decision.

Regards,

Tomeu

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Remove Presence Service

2010-08-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2010 05:26 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi,

 have just entered a new feature page for the removal of the Presence
 Service, which is being proposed as a feature for 0.90. In the page
 you have links to previous discussions and to the bigger plans.

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Remove_Presence_Service

 Regards,

 Tomeu

Thanks Tomeu for providing us with this great Feature!

 From a maintaining point of view and in order to make Sugar even more 
stable this is a great enhancement. As well the possibilities for future 
enhancements are enormous.

As this Feature is very invasive (touches three modules) and moves as 
well a lot of code we have to be very careful when reviewing (mind that 
the Feature has gone through testing and landed by next Monday the 16th 
of August) and of course when testing. After landing the Feature we need 
a lot of testing. We should list all the possible test cases in the 
testing section of the Feature page then.

 From me a definite +1 for accepting this Feature, to me all the formal 
criteria for inclusion are fulfilled.

Regards,
Simon


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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Pukllanapac-3

2010-08-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4320

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.88

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27010/pukllanapac-3.xo

Release notes:
* added card rotation


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove bitmap icon handling from s-p-s

2010-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 11-08-2010 a las 11:02 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 00:38, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
  This patch gets rid of some almost-dead code in sugar-presence-service
  for handling bitmap avatars.
 
 The idea is that the PS is going to disappear soon. Do we really want
 to make such cleanups given that?

For some unknown reason, this code broke boot on one XO I've seen.

The jpg file was missing, which made the initialization code raise an
exception. The bug might very well be in jffs2, I've seen filesystem
corruption before...

Nevertheless, Sugar should be as tolerant as possible to data corruption
because if it doesn't even start, users don't have a chance to recover
their data.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] backups

2010-08-12 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote:

  If a USB olpc-update isn't possible, I'll have to flash my XO-1 and
  lose my work.  Release notes say only, Make a copy of any data you
  wish to keep... how?
 
  I don't know of a guide.

 It's because being forced to manage your ongoing work via the Journal
 is so much easier and more intuitive than using the file systems that
 the rest of the world uses.


For what it's worth: The latest software versions coming out of Paraguay
(based on Sugar 0.88) now support easy backup of the Journal to a USB
pendrive or a school-server (see
http://www.flickr.com/photos/christophd/4857147255/in/set-72157624456083615/).
I saw 6th grade pupils use this feature without any issues.

Cheers,
Christoph

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse-115 stops when pop-up tab closes

2010-08-12 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:39 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 If this is the error that is killing Browse-115, it appears to be a
 problem with get_preview in Sugar.  What version of Sugar is it?


Sugar 0.88

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Lucian Branescu
lucian.brane...@gmail.comwrote:

 This exception doesn't seem related to the cairo bug. I'll try to
 reproduce it on my XO. Please file a bug report if you haven't
 already.


Should I file the bug with  Sugar Labs or OLPC?

Thanks,
Christoph

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse-115 stops when pop-up tab closes

2010-08-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
On 12 August 2010 19:21, Christoph Derndorfer
christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:39 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 If this is the error that is killing Browse-115, it appears to be a
 problem with get_preview in Sugar.  What version of Sugar is it?

 Sugar 0.88
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This exception doesn't seem related to the cairo bug. I'll try to
 reproduce it on my XO. Please file a bug report if you haven't
 already.

 Should I file the bug with  Sugar Labs or OLPC?

Sugar Labs http://bugs.sugarlabs.org. If you want, I can file the bug for you.

I haven't been able to reproduce it so far. I'll have a look at Horde
to see how they authenticate.
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-94

2010-08-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
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Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.88

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http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27011/turtle_art-94.xo

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* Turtle see block
* some internal cleaning up


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[Sugar-devel] Upgrade gitorious?

2010-08-12 Thread Tim McNamara
Possibly another task to add to the stack...

git.sl.o doens't have a very friendly landing for new contributors
page. Directions to core gitorious projects, such as sugar  jarabe 
category:glucose would be good.

Further,  http://www.gitorious.org seems to be a little prettier than
our instance. Are we a few versions behind?

Tim
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Re: [Sugar-devel] backups

2010-08-12 Thread S Page
Interesting!  I think Journal backup to the school server has been a
feature since XS 0.4 and Release 8.2, see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Blueprints:Datastore_Simple_Backup_and_Restore
, and that's what your picture shows.  I assume you're referring to
the recent Sugar work (I think
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-June/025094.html
that has added backup to locally-attached volumes.

I think other ways to back up individual Journal items are the
copy_from_journal script and dragging items to an attached USB drive
in the Journal. I find it hard to figure out what's significant or
large in my sporadic Journal use.

(BTW, USB key, memory stick, pendrive, thumb drive etc. are
all confusing pet names for the actual name which is USB flash
drive.)

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