Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] sl#2815: Localization fixes.
Hi Chris, I'm sure Zanata is a fine tool, but we've developed a L10n community around our Pootle instance and they are familiar with Pootle and we are pretty good at managing our Pootle instance and it's interactions with Gitorious, so I do not see any reason at present to consider switching, but I will spend some time looking over Zanata to better understand what it has to offer. You're right, at present Zanata is less mature than Pootle, so it would be inappropriate to change. Let me know if you have any questions or want a hand getting into Zanata to check it out. Cheers, David Mason Software Engineer L10n Engineering Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd Level 1, 193 North Quay Brisbane 4000 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Browse PDF handling
I'm proposing, for the new and fresh Browse wearing WebKit, the following behaviour when clicking on a link to a PDF: - the PDF is shown in a new tab, next to the current - basic document navigation is provided to the user - as well, a button to save to Journal is provided Using the save to Journal button, the kid can now read the PDF starting the full-featured Read activity. This behaviour is similar to what Safari does, and I think it fits Sugar user interface better than other approaches we where thinking before, like start Read directly, which provokes an interruptive activity switch. Also this way, an entry in the Journal is made only if the user ask for it, and allows a quick read of the PDF then you can decide on storing. If we go for this, some design decisions should be taken: - How can we provide basic PDF navigation? 1. Overload Browse buttons? This are: View zoom-in, zoom-out, Edit copy, paste, Go back page, go forward page buttons. 2. Add a special toolbar for PDF, add Save to Journal option in that toolbar - Where to append Save to Journal button? 1. In the activity toolbar, like other activities have. This matches well basic navigation 1 above. 2. In a special toolbar. This matches basic navigation 2 above. For 1, I fear that may confuse users and may complicate code. For 2, we can take Safari as reference. It adds an overlay horizontally centered near the bottom of the screen [1]. We can do this with the new widget GtkOverlay [2]. Am I overlooking something? Comments? Credits go to Simon for the investigation :-) [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/designs/safari_inline.png [2] http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/GtkOverlay.html -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Browse PDF handling
2012/2/2 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: I'm proposing, for the new and fresh Browse wearing WebKit, the following behaviour when clicking on a link to a PDF: - the PDF is shown in a new tab, next to the current - basic document navigation is provided to the user - as well, a button to save to Journal is provided Using the save to Journal button, the kid can now read the PDF starting the full-featured Read activity. This behaviour is similar to what Safari does, and I think it fits Sugar user interface better than other approaches we where thinking before, like start Read directly, which provokes an interruptive activity switch. Also this way, an entry in the Journal is made only if the user ask for it, and allows a quick read of the PDF then you can decide on storing. If we go for this, some design decisions should be taken: - How can we provide basic PDF navigation? 1. Overload Browse buttons? This are: View zoom-in, zoom-out, Edit copy, paste, Go back page, go forward page buttons. 2. Add a special toolbar for PDF, add Save to Journal option in that toolbar #2 seems to be the way to go. - Where to append Save to Journal button? 1. In the activity toolbar, like other activities have. This matches well basic navigation 1 above. 2. In a special toolbar. This matches basic navigation 2 above. For 1, I fear that may confuse users and may complicate code. For 2, we can take Safari as reference. It adds an overlay horizontally centered near the bottom of the screen [1]. We can do this with the new widget GtkOverlay [2]. Am I overlooking something? Comments? Credits go to Simon for the investigation :-) [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/designs/safari_inline.png [2] http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/GtkOverlay.html -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Browse PDF handling
Something to watch out for is that many websites already like to open a separate tab or window for PDF documents, sometimes via Javascript and sometimes by setting the target frame/window. Sometimes these sites directly link the PDF file; other times they attempt to include it inline. If we intend to support tabbed browsing, these behaviors could result in an unused tab being opened besides the one showing the document. On Feb 2, 2012 7:00 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: I'm proposing, for the new and fresh Browse wearing WebKit, the following behaviour when clicking on a link to a PDF: - the PDF is shown in a new tab, next to the current - basic document navigation is provided to the user - as well, a button to save to Journal is provided Using the save to Journal button, the kid can now read the PDF starting the full-featured Read activity. This behaviour is similar to what Safari does, and I think it fits Sugar user interface better than other approaches we where thinking before, like start Read directly, which provokes an interruptive activity switch. Also this way, an entry in the Journal is made only if the user ask for it, and allows a quick read of the PDF then you can decide on storing. If we go for this, some design decisions should be taken: - How can we provide basic PDF navigation? 1. Overload Browse buttons? This are: View zoom-in, zoom-out, Edit copy, paste, Go back page, go forward page buttons. 2. Add a special toolbar for PDF, add Save to Journal option in that toolbar - Where to append Save to Journal button? 1. In the activity toolbar, like other activities have. This matches well basic navigation 1 above. 2. In a special toolbar. This matches basic navigation 2 above. For 1, I fear that may confuse users and may complicate code. For 2, we can take Safari as reference. It adds an overlay horizontally centered near the bottom of the screen [1]. We can do this with the new widget GtkOverlay [2]. Am I overlooking something? Comments? Credits go to Simon for the investigation :-) [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/designs/safari_inline.png [2] http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/GtkOverlay.html -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2012-02-02
== Sugar Digest == 1. I spent some time working on the nutrition plugin for Turtle Blocks last weekend. I'm actually quite intrigued by the potential. So far, I have built a small database of foods (banana, apple, chocolate cake, and a chocolate chip cookie), where each object has an associated simple polynomial with value for calories, protein, carbohydrates, fiber, and fat. These values are respectable on the help palette and there are inspector blocks that can get these values as numeric values in Turtle Block programs. You can do arithmetic operations on the object, e.g., banana * 3 + cookie / 2 and you can use the component values in other operations, e.g., forward by get_calories apple. Finally, there is an eat method that consumes the nutritional values fed to it and accumulates aggregate totals for each component. Using those values, I wrote a simple Weight Watchers(TM) Points calculator. You can play with all of this by downloading the plugin from [1]. Next up is to create a palette with foods that are actually meaningful within the context of a deployment. There is a nice database to map foods to their nutritional components available at [2] so the real work is coming up with a representative list of foods and the artwork for the blocks. Anyone one interested in exploring this further with me? A screen shot is available at [3]. 2. I am a little late in relaying this, but Caryl Bigenho wrote up a nice summary of SCaLE 10X a week ago. You can read about it here: [4] 3. I am please to announce that Robert Fadel will be taking over as finance coordinator for Sugar Labs. Robert has a wealth of professional experience in finance and, having previously been a part of the core team at One Laptop per Child, he is very familiar with Sugar Labs and its mission. Robert has been in communication with Bradley Kuhn at the SFC in order to get brought up to speed on our finances--Bradley had been distracted by an end of year audit report, so things are a bit behind on the finance front. Once he gets the lay of the land, I am certain that Robert will have many recommendations on how we can improve our financial processes. Robert and Bradley both have expressed interest in helping Sugar Labs identify funding opportunities. 2. John Tierney spent the fall semester working closely with a team of students participating in the OWL Jr. project at Oakland University under the supervision of Dr. Dana Driscoll. The students evaluated different aspects of Sugar and the use of Sugar in the classroom and have written up very thoughtful recommendations. John is working with them to get these materials into the wiki and to mine them for potential feature requests. Stay tuned. === In the community === 6. There will be an eduJAM! in the week of May 7-12 in Montevideo. Details to follow. 7. The week following eduJAM! will be a Squeakfest, also in Montevideo (May 16-18). === Tech Talk === 8. The patches for new features for Sugar 0.96 [5] have (for the most part) landed. Under the hood, we'll see a migration to GTK-3. This is particularly important in future-proofing Sugar, ensuring that we remain in sync with our upstream and opens the door to much of the work in the GNOME community around topics such as accessibility and touch. Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this major effort. Other new features include a global text-to-speech mechanism, written by Gonzalo Odiard. You'll be able to highlight text in any activity and send it to the voice synthesizer with a simple keyboard shortcut. Manuel Quiñones and Simon Schampijer have been porting Browse to Webkit as its back end. Simon helped me with write to journal anytime, a feature that enables the user to takes notes stored in the Sugar journal from within any activity. And Sascha Silbe, Anish Mangal, and Aleksey Lim have added proxy configuration to the network entry in the Sugar control panel. Lots of QA to do, but the heavy lifting is done. === Sugar Labs === Gary Martin has generated SOMs from the past few weeks of discussion on the IAEP mailing list: 2012 Jan 21st-27th [6] (41 emails) 2012 Jan 14th-20th [7] (28 emails) Visit our planet [8] for more updates about Sugar and Sugar deployments. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Food-plugin.tar.gz [2] https://www.choosemyplate.gov/SuperTracker [3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/01/Food-plugin.png [4] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2012-January/014837.html 0.96/Feature_List [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:2012-Jan-21-27-som.jpg [7] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:2012-Jan-14-20-som.jpg [8] http://planet.sugarlabs.org -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH Sugar] Implementation of Text to Speech in Sugar Feature - v5
On 02/01/2012 08:19 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 01/31/2012 08:08 PM, godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: From: Gonzalo Odiardgodi...@gmail.com This patch implement the text to speech feature using the gstremer espeak plugin and using a device icon in the frame to enable the user to configure parameters and play/pause/stop the spoken text. The configuration is saved in gconf. gstreamer-plugins-espeak is in use in many activities, but is added now as a dependency to Sugar. Signed-off-by: Gonzalo Odiardgonz...@laptop.org Hi Sascha, Gonzalo adjusted the description. I think we can really push this one now. Any other comments? I would like to release now... Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel Pushed as 450569da09b4e81cbe4f11f63fee47a024b14fad. Regards, Simon PS: Gonzalo will prepare a patch to catch gracefully the non-existance of gstreamer-espeak. As Sascha noted, gstreamer-plugins-espeak is not packaged for all the distros yet. I made the test and removed it from my system. Sugar does still start and the device icon is just not added but we can do a better logging. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.95.2
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.95.2.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.95.2 (Simon Schampijer) * Theme the view correctly (Manuel Quiñones) * Theme the Sugar tray (Simon Schampijer) * Add icon for the 'Write to Journal anytime' feature (Walter Bender) * GTK+3 port (Manuel Quiñones) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.95.4
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.95.4.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.95.4 (Simon Schampijer) * Update Sucrose version for upcoming 0.95.4 (Simon Schampijer) * Add extensions/deviceicon/speech.py to POTFILES.in (Simon Schampijer) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 280 of 383 messages translated (7 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 271 of 383 messages translated (9 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 162 of 383 messages translated (7 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 216 of 383 messages translated (11 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 206 of 383 messages translated (28 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) * Implementation of Text to Speech Feature [1] (Gonzalo Odiard) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 383 of 383 messages translated (0 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation System by user cjl.: 378 of 383 messages translated (0 fuzzy). (Pootle daemon) ==Packagers== The Text to Speech Feature adds the dependency for gstreamer-plugins-espeak [1] which is packaged in Fedora as gstreamer-plugins-espeak. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2012-02-02
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Fred juma fredwa...@yahoo.com wrote: Bungoma OLPC HIV/AIDS XO project has introduced more activities.Now there is internet connection on XO for children in primary Schools.Community outreach using XO machines has been introduced.the rural community is so excited.This courtesy of Sandra Thaxter of Solutions in USA.She is visiting the Kenyan OLPC XO projects to ensure there success.Hands of Charity has reached over 7 schools in Bungoma Kenya.The Maths programme has progressed too.I has changed the perfomance in Maths in Butonge Primary School in Bungoma County.Its a very good idea for learners. Very interested to learn more about what activites you find useful and more about the HIV/AIDS-specific efforts. regards. -walter --- On *Thu, 2/2/12, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com Subject: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2012-02-02 To: community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: iaep i...@lists.sugarlabs.org, Sugar-dev Devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 2:10 PM == Sugar Digest == 1. I spent some time working on the nutrition plugin for Turtle Blocks last weekend. I'm actually quite intrigued by the potential. So far, I have built a small database of foods (banana, apple, chocolate cake, and a chocolate chip cookie), where each object has an associated simple polynomial with value for calories, protein, carbohydrates, fiber, and fat. These values are respectable on the help palette and there are inspector blocks that can get these values as numeric values in Turtle Block programs. You can do arithmetic operations on the object, e.g., banana * 3 + cookie / 2 and you can use the component values in other operations, e.g., forward by get_calories apple. Finally, there is an eat method that consumes the nutritional values fed to it and accumulates aggregate totals for each component. Using those values, I wrote a simple Weight Watchers(TM) Points calculator. You can play with all of this by downloading the plugin from [1]. Next up is to create a palette with foods that are actually meaningful within the context of a deployment. There is a nice database to map foods to their nutritional components available at [2] so the real work is coming up with a representative list of foods and the artwork for the blocks. Anyone one interested in exploring this further with me? A screen shot is available at [3]. 2. I am a little late in relaying this, but Caryl Bigenho wrote up a nice summary of SCaLE 10X a week ago. You can read about it here: [4] 3. I am please to announce that Robert Fadel will be taking over as finance coordinator for Sugar Labs. Robert has a wealth of professional experience in finance and, having previously been a part of the core team at One Laptop per Child, he is very familiar with Sugar Labs and its mission. Robert has been in communication with Bradley Kuhn at the SFC in order to get brought up to speed on our finances--Bradley had been distracted by an end of year audit report, so things are a bit behind on the finance front. Once he gets the lay of the land, I am certain that Robert will have many recommendations on how we can improve our financial processes. Robert and Bradley both have expressed interest in helping Sugar Labs identify funding opportunities. 2. John Tierney spent the fall semester working closely with a team of students participating in the OWL Jr. project at Oakland University under the supervision of Dr. Dana Driscoll. The students evaluated different aspects of Sugar and the use of Sugar in the classroom and have written up very thoughtful recommendations. John is working with them to get these materials into the wiki and to mine them for potential feature requests. Stay tuned. === In the community === 6. There will be an eduJAM! in the week of May 7-12 in Montevideo. Details to follow. 7. The week following eduJAM! will be a Squeakfest, also in Montevideo (May 16-18). === Tech Talk === 8. The patches for new features for Sugar 0.96 [5] have (for the most part) landed. Under the hood, we'll see a migration to GTK-3. This is particularly important in future-proofing Sugar, ensuring that we remain in sync with our upstream and opens the door to much of the work in the GNOME community around topics such as accessibility and touch. Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this major effort. Other new features include a global text-to-speech mechanism, written by Gonzalo Odiard. You'll be able to highlight text in any activity and send it to the voice synthesizer with a simple keyboard shortcut. Manuel Quiñones and Simon Schampijer have been porting Browse to Webkit as its back end. Simon helped me with write to journal anytime, a feature that enables the user to takes notes stored in the Sugar journal from within any activity. And Sascha Silbe, Anish Mangal, and
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-134
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.94 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27843/turtle_art-134.xo Release notes: 134 ENHANCEMENTS: * Added method to change block color (used by some plugins) * Added method to set the visibility of palette blocks (used by some plugins) * New translations BUG FIX: * Fixed typo inadvertently intoduced into plugin strings * Fixed problem with boolean and compare blocks not expanding properly Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Browse PDF handling
2012/2/2 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: Am I overlooking something? Comments? Sounds good. But Browse already works similar to this on an XO-1 running 11.3.0. E.g. open a PDF Collection from the OLPC Library home page such as Big Cats or Activity Handbook, and it opens in Browse in the current Browse window (not a new tab) and isn't added to the Journal. Is your innovation the Save to Journal? It seems the same capability might be useful for other content types you see in the browser, like video and audio. One thing I regret is that Read is more usable than Browse in e-book mode. The game keys don't work the same in Browse, you have to be careful to focus the Browse window in order to use the arrow keys, there's less real estate for content. Somehow I've gotten PDFs to show in the Journal, and from there I Resume with Read for a better reading experience. Years ago there was mailing list discussion about how opening a URL in Browse could hand it off to an activity that supports its mime type; as I recall there were Rainbow security issues. Maybe your explicit Save to Journal that implicitly saves the data to the XO's storage is a better approach. In general Sugar has a hard time making useful intelligible distinctions between open bookmark in Browse versus open manage in Journal, but that's true of every desktop I've yet seen, all uneasily dealing with the web. IMO the problem goes away best when you run *everything* in the browser ;-) -- =S Page ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Browse PDF handling
I wrote: Somehow I've gotten PDFs to show in the Journal, and from there I Resume with Read for a better reading experience. I think that was back when clicking a PDF in Browse (even in ~/Library) would download it into the Journal. When I tried to do this with 11.3.0 I ran into a strange problem. While I'm viewing a PDF in Browse, if I click the globe menu item I can name it e.g. Browsing to solar system PDF and it creates a Journal entry with that name associated with Browse. But I can also right-click on the Journal entry and Resume with Read, Write, or Etoys. Doing so presents some Browse JSON data (current_tab, a history array of URLs, etc.) in Read and Write, instead of showing me the PDF, even though Read can easily access a PDF by URL. Meanwhile, I can only Resume or Start an actual PDF in the Journal from Read, I can't view it in Browse. I dunno if these are bugs or I'm misunderstanding the nature of Journal entries. As I said, uneasily dealing with the web... It's a hard problem. Regards, -- =S Page ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
