Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] wiki.sugarlabs.org ongoing maintenance

2013-04-17 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 16/04/13 00:03, Bernie Innocenti escribió: Our wiki has grown quite large and the upgrade from Mediawiki 1.19 to 1.20 required several slow steps, so unfortunately I had to leave before fixing up the local wikis. I ran maintenance/update scripts for: pe.sugarlabs.org cl.sugarlabs.org ar.su

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Color Palette: get back horizontal padding - SL #4325

2013-04-17 Thread Manuel Quiñones
The PaletteWindow lost the horizontal padding when it started to be used as replacement of palette menus. So now each implementation has to add the padding. Signed-off-by: Manuel Quiñones --- src/sugar3/graphics/colorbutton.py | 7 ++- 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding GSoC 2013

2013-04-17 Thread Sebastian Silva
Dear Amit, I'm sorry that I took so long to reply. I'm excited that you are interested in the Platform team's project to support a distribution which the Peru community/local lab is proposing as basis for deployment in Peru. Currently we're about to reach 1.0 for Deployment Platform for XO la

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 April 2013 19:40, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > >> Coming back to this point... >> >> I think supporting an existing webapps framework (hopefully a standard at >> some point) with it's system API, manifest, permissions etc, is important >> also if the goal is just to get some Sugar activities run

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities: widgets, UI, layout

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hey, lots of interesting projects and good points. We already discussed a bit in IRC, but reposting here for everyone. The most important choice seems to be be about adopting a full toolkit or stick to plain html/javascript. From your list it seems like we have at least three that should be evalu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
> > > Coming back to this point... > > I think supporting an existing webapps framework (hopefully a standard at > some point) with it's system API, manifest, permissions etc, is important > also if the goal is just to get some Sugar activities running on other > platforms. > > For example, even *i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 April 2013 19:20, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > But is WebKit so much better? For example the WebKit2 decision _seems_ to > > have been made by Apple engineers without even talking to major > > contributors. The gtk bits are maintained t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > But is WebKit so much better? For example the WebKit2 decision _seems_ to > have been made by Apple engineers without even talking to major > contributors. The gtk bits are maintained the way we would like them to > but... I'm not sure that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 April 2013 17:39, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 17 April 2013 16:26, Daniel Drake wrote: > > So the real benefit of the Chrome thing is the system integration? Is >> that something really needed for Sugar? It would be necessary if we >> were to port *all* Sugar activities to javascript, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current Sugar implementation on Android

2013-04-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On the negative side, gobject-introspection cross compilation still sounds > like a mess > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592311 I worked on that code for a while at litl. Probably the best bet is to not try to cross-compile,

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [ANN] Four new OLPC Games by the Software Architecture Group

2013-04-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Perscheid > Subject:ANN] Four new OLPC Games by the Software Architecture Group > Date: 16. April 2013 08:22:27 GMT-07:00 > To: Squeak in Germany / Squeak in Deutschland > > Reply-To: Squeak in Germany / Squeak in Deutschland > > > Hi all, > > we'd l

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Thanks Daniel. Lots of interesting points here! On 17 April 2013 16:26, Daniel Drake wrote: > So the real benefit of the Chrome thing is the system integration? Is > that something really needed for Sugar? It would be necessary if we > were to port *all* Sugar activities to javascript, but I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > I might not have yet made explicit what a web application provides on the > top of an html page loaded in a browser, which is what we get with 1. Taking > a look to the Chromium documentation is a good way to get an idea of it. > > http://de

[Sugar-devel] Web activities: widgets, UI, layout

2013-04-17 Thread Manuel Quiñones
Hi, For our web activities, we need to code our widgets or components. Example of widgets are: the activity toolbar and subtoolbars, a slider control, a palette. There are different approaches to this. Yesterday I discussed some with C. Scott by IRC. Here is the wrap up, IRC log at the bottom.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/13/2013 02:42 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 12 April 2013 23:18, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hi Lionel, we are more or less understanding each other :) I think there are really three possible steps 1 A WebView with an html5/javascript based sugar-toolkit 2 Support for web activities along wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities (Daniel Narvaez)

2013-04-17 Thread lionel
> we are going to kick off the work on HTML activities for 0.100 with a meeting. > > Time: 22 April 2013 (14:00 UTC) > Place: #sugar-meeting (freenode) Great. Nice summary. I will try to be there. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar TamTamJam development]

2013-04-17 Thread Manuel Quiñones
Hi Jared, (forwarding to the mailing list) 2013/4/17 Jared : > On 04/16/2013 07:23 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: >> >> Hi Jared, >> >> 2013/4/16 Jared: >>> >>> Hello all, my name is Jared and I'm currently working on contributing to >>> the >>> TamTamJam sugar activity as part of an assignment for m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Yeah, but the idea is that web applications we write for Sugar will not require an internet connection... On 17 April 2013 13:40, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote: > Yes.. > > > 2013/4/17 Daniel Narvaez > >> Hi Ignacio, >> >> you mean many existing chromium web applications requires an internet >> conne

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities

2013-04-17 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Yes.. 2013/4/17 Daniel Narvaez > Hi Ignacio, > > you mean many existing chromium web applications requires an internet > connection? > > On 17 April 2013 12:37, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote: > >> "> * Chromium integration.(..)" >> >> Many applications require connection for use. >> >> >> >> 2013/4/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 April 2013 12:31, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Hey Daniel, > > I have an extension that is using management.getAll [1] to collect the > extension info. I could not find any info about > chrome.runtime.connectNative, it is not part of [2], do you have any > pointers? > Hi Simon, it's not quit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Ignacio, you mean many existing chromium web applications requires an internet connection? On 17 April 2013 12:37, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote: > "> * Chromium integration.(..)" > > Many applications require connection for use. > > > > 2013/4/17 Daniel Narvaez > >> Hello, >> >> we are going to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities

2013-04-17 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
"> * Chromium integration.(..)" Many applications require connection for use. 2013/4/17 Daniel Narvaez > Hello, > > we are going to kick off the work on HTML activities for 0.100 with a > meeting. > > Time: 22 April 2013 (14:00 UTC) > Place: #sugar-meeting (freenode) > > It would be really us

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/11/2013 09:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I spent some time today thinking and experimenting with Chromium integration and I have a more detailed plan to propose now. There is an important premise to be made. In both Chromium and Firefox OS, application's installation is very much in

[Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities

2013-04-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, we are going to kick off the work on HTML activities for 0.100 with a meeting. Time: 22 April 2013 (14:00 UTC) Place: #sugar-meeting (freenode) It would be really useful to know how many people are interested to contribute, so please try to participate or, if you can't, let us know that y