Hi Walter,
Nice feature.
Two questions:
- It could be nice to include gender informations (and nickname too) in
backups. At OLPC France (guess like at lot of other deployments) we
developed a backup process that get datastore contents, gnome desktop
contents and write a file name nickname with
This make sense to me. Simple, provedly useful feature.
On 5 November 2013 18:18, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
I wrote up a page for a proposed enhancement to the About Me section
of the control panel [1].
Summary:
OLPC Australia uses gender and age as part of their
Make sense to me. Btw I would really like to get design team on all the
proposal you posted.
On 5 November 2013 18:53, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
I wrote up a page for a proposed enhancement to set limit to open
activities and open instances [1].
Summary:
At the request
Yes, could even be considered a bug fix.
On 5 November 2013 19:16, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
I wrote up a page for a proposed enhancement to honor the maximum
participants field [1]
Summary
At the request of OLPC AU, we'd like to honor the maximum_participants
limit.
I'm not quit convinced about the implementation, this really feels like
something that should be stored in gconf/gsettings rather than using a dbus
method. Might be a good idea to use gsettings directly here because it's
basically a list of lists and the details of how you store those might
differ
I can't think now a example, but a integer is more future proof.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it useful for maximum_instances to be different from 1? Otherwise I tend
to think a single_instance boolean would make more sense and allow a
If there is any possible future use case for it, yes. Otherwise imo it's
just confusing. Single instance vs multiple instance application is a well
known concept. I have never heard of double or triple instance applications
though :)
On 6 November 2013 14:43, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org
Hello,
I think Sugar Labs needs to express a clear, realistic technology roadmap.
For example, we have been talking a lot about Sugar on Android, mixing a
lot of different things under that name. We need to clarify what that
really is.
Here are my thoughts, inspired by the oversight board
On 6 November 2013 07:15, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
El 06/11/13 00:40, Yioryos Asprobounitis escribió:
Looking at the archives of this list you can find several cases (some
recent)
of non-conforming contributors that are not contributing anymore,
supporting the
high
The Category Feature used to have all the Features we worked in all
the history of Sugar, and was really difficult know what was done,
what was a proposal, what was pending and so.
Trying to solve that, I moved the Features already landed to
FeatureLanded category:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I think Sugar Labs needs to express a clear, realistic technology roadmap.
For example, we have been talking a lot about Sugar on Android, mixing a lot
of different things under that name. We need to clarify
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I think Sugar Labs needs to express a clear, realistic technology roadmap.
For example, we have been talking a lot about Sugar on Android,
On 22 October 2013 21:41, NoiseEHC noise...@gmail.com wrote:
You are right. The problem is that my views are exactly the opposite of
the decided path to take.
I don't think that's true.
I'm one of the three developers involved in the web activities work and I
like many of your ideas. Manuel
2013/11/6 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I think Sugar Labs needs to express a clear, realistic technology roadmap.
For example, we
great work Gonzalo.
-walter
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
The Category Feature used to have all the Features we worked in all
the history of Sugar, and was really difficult know what was done,
what was a proposal, what was pending and so.
Trying
Yes, but we never provided a easy way to install in classmates,
or tried to approach hardware manufactures to propose them to invest on that.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
2013/11/6 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at
On 6 November 2013 16:12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
* Wait and see what happens with the XO. Support existing deployments by
producing images with the most recent Sugar release. Stick to a Fedora 18
base system, the work to upgrade is highly non trivial. Provide custom
rpms
Are classmates somehow available to developers? It sounds like making
images (or whatever) for them might be a pretty good idea.
On 6 November 2013 16:25, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
Yes, but we never provided a easy way to install in classmates,
or tried to approach hardware
On 6 November 2013 16:20, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
Classmates are basically just x86 netbooks, I've not tried it as I
don't have HW but I don't see any reason they shouldn't work OOTB.
Yep. Sugar is running in classmates out of the box. In Uruguay for
example.
You mean
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Are classmates somehow available to developers? It sounds like making images
(or whatever) for them might be a pretty good idea.
You should be able to use the SoaS images on them straight up, there's
an installer option.
2013/11/6 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
On 6 November 2013 16:20, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
Classmates are basically just x86 netbooks, I've not tried it as I
don't have HW but I don't see any reason they shouldn't work OOTB.
Yep. Sugar is running in classmates out of
In the short term, we don't need backport Webkit2 to F18.
Please elaborate :)
I think developing web activities on two very different platforms (WebKit1
and WebKit2) is a bad idea, it will involve more work (and pain) then doing
some backporting.
Well, with a little patch in our F18 rpm,
On 6 November 2013 16:45, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
In the short term, we don't need backport Webkit2 to F18.
Please elaborate :)
I think developing web activities on two very different platforms
(WebKit1
and WebKit2) is a bad idea, it will involve more work (and
I forgot a note about toolkits
* The gtk2 toolkit is deprecated and frozen but it will be supported as
long as possible (at some point I guess some dependencies might start
disappearing from distributions, making that problematic). The gtk3 toolkit
is supported, backward API compatibility is
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 November 2013 16:45, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
In the short term, we don't need backport Webkit2 to F18.
Please elaborate :)
I think developing web activities on two very different
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
I forgot a note about toolkits
* The gtk2 toolkit is deprecated and frozen but it will be supported as long
as possible (at some point I guess some dependencies might start
disappearing from distributions, making that
On 6 November 2013 17:38, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 6 November 2013 16:45, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
In the short term, we don't need backport Webkit2 to F18.
Please
Gstreamer 0.10 is part of what I'm calling gtk2 toolkit, it's not
completely accurate but we have been using than terminology. So it seems we
are going to run into the issue of gtk2 toolkit pieces disappearing earlier
then I expected.
I think you can move to gst 1.0 only if you already ported to
No. the web-server issue is already solved.
If we want to support WebKit1, I think we should do it upstream then. I'm
still not thrilled about that but not opposed to it either.
Good. We can see what is the better way to do it. May be check the
webkit version installed?
Just for reference,
Clock, Speak, and part of Memorize use gstreamer just to do text to speech.
I would like to have tts provided by Sugar as a service, probably using dbus
and a api in sugar-toolkit-gtk3. That would simplify these activities and solve
other problems we have, like by example the keep the language
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
Dear Community,
As I was listening to the interviews of some of the OLPC SF Summit
attendees, I was amazed at the richness of diversity in perspectives.
In spite of being a part of this community since July 2007, and trying
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
Clock, Speak, and part of Memorize use gstreamer just to do text to speech.
I would like to have tts provided by Sugar as a service, probably using dbus
and a api in sugar-toolkit-gtk3. That would simplify these
Did you run into any specific issue?
On Wednesday, 6 November 2013, Walter Bender wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
gonz...@laptop.orgjavascript:;
wrote:
Clock, Speak, and part of Memorize use gstreamer just to do text to
speech.
I would like to have tts provided by
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you run into any specific issue?
It has been a while, but I had some issues with lack of introspection
support with some pad stuff... will look again over the weekend.
-walter
On Wednesday, 6 November 2013, Walter
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you run into any specific issue?
It has been a while, but I had some issues with lack of introspection
support with some pad stuff... will
/On 06/11/2013 13:31, Daniel Narvaez wrote://
//You mean people are using them in Uruguay deployments? Which distro?/
--
In Uruguay we have Classmates II (called Magallanes) in some High Schools,
2013/11/6 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org
The information is stored inGConf, your backup process can get it an
restore it later.
Nice, just seen it in GConf.
The testing images include the work done for Australia deployment,
that is the reason, this and other features proposed by
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
2013/11/6 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org
The information is stored inGConf, your backup process can get it an
restore it later.
Nice, just seen it in GConf.
The testing images include the work done for
Okay. I've seen two other features not described in the feature lists:
- Backup/Restore journal to an USB key
- Copy to Teacher menu item (grayed).
Is it related to Australia deployment too ?
Backup/Restore can be included in 0.102,
at least the implementation storing in a external device.
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote:
But you have for a long time refused to actually even market SoaS!
That's right, at the time SoaS became an official Fedora spin, Mel and
Sebastian decided to take over marketing, which included coming up with
On 6 November 2013 18:32, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
No. the web-server issue is already solved.
If we want to support WebKit1, I think we should do it upstream then. I'm
still not thrilled about that but not opposed to it either.
Good. We can see what is the better way to
El 06/11/13 17:35, Sean DALY escribió:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
mailto:pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
But you have for a long time refused to actually even market SoaS!
That's right, at the time SoaS became an official Fedora spin, Mel and
In F18 we can do:
from gi.repository import WebKit2
but later crash, not sure where.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 November 2013 18:32, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
No. the web-server issue is already solved.
If
On 7 November 2013 00:37, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
In F18 we can do:
from gi.repository import WebKit2
but later crash, not sure where.
Hrm, yeah, I had forgot the exact situation in Fedora 18...
Then I'm afraid the only solid approach I can think of is testing for a
Yeah, is a option.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 November 2013 00:37, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
In F18 we can do:
from gi.repository import WebKit2
but later crash, not sure where.
Hrm, yeah, I had forgot the
*My proposals to improve sugar: *
Change the face, giving more importance to aesthetics, leave the black and
white, give colorful, add animations, sounds, etc.. . . What is pleasing to
the user's view and fun to use. Change the geometry of buttons and other
widgets of sugar to have a delicate
2013/11/6 Flavio Danesse fdane...@gmail.com:
My proposals to improve sugar:
Lots of good ideas here, many of which can be explored in Google Code
in. Please create tickets for them and add them to the task list in
the wiki [1]. And please sign up as a mentor!!! (Note that tasks can
be coding,
2013/11/7 Flavio Danesse fdane...@gmail.com
What someone explain a simple way to contribute code to sugar, I'm 5 years
ago and I have been able to do so (the timers need help).
Did you see these docs
http://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html
Thanks Daniel , I'll try again.
I tried on several occasions to contribute in this way, but I see two
problems :
Generally not work in ubuntu and has the disadvantage that you can not
prove what you do on the xo .
The other problem is the time of applying patches , that is, if you get
excited to
Please see the link at the bottom left of http://dextrose.ac/platform/
for the Sugar on Ubuntu images which Activity Central and Plan Ceibal
are jointly developing.
For stability it is based on Ubuntu 12.04 and Sugar .98. The testing
is done on classmate to meet Plan Ceibal's specifications. I
On 7 November 2013 02:00, Flavio Danesse fdane...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Daniel , I'll try again.
I tried on several occasions to contribute in this way, but I see two
problems :
Generally not work in ubuntu
It's supposed work on Ubuntu. If it doesn't for you post the errors you are
Cool stuff.
As for Fedora it would be great to have builds with the latest sugar
(stable and unstable) releases. I'm not saying to ship those to deployments
of course, but they would help upstream development, marketing and
testing... And they would help AC to make the transition to the next
El 06/11/13 10:00, Daniel Narvaez escribió:
On 6 November 2013 07:15, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org
mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
I too feel the overall attitude within this list has been
dismissive of
non-conforming ideas and individuals, sometimes bluntly.
I agree :)
Right now, we are sitting back and seeing what roll OLPC-Australia is
going to play in the ecosystem. The One Education distribution out of
Australia is a combination of Dextrose, Sugar .100 and some custom
patches. My semi-informed guess is that Walter and Rangan (
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