Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer: the (dark) technical side

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
> An excellent summary, thanks. > >> Lionel Lask? wrote: >> 5) Activities issue: My philosophy with Sugarizer is "don't update >> activities". > > How would you envisage an update of activities on an Android system > that has an offline copy of Sugarizer? > > Speculation: bring the system online,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
The .apk is downloadable here http://sugarizer.org/org.olpc-france.sugarizer.apk This link is also the target link of "Android App on Google Play" icon on http://sugarizer.org page. I've used this icon for comestic reason :-) but no, Sugarizer is not available in Google Play. So because it don't co

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 03:03:43PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, "James Cameron" wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: > > > It's already packaged as an Android App :-) > > > Click on the "Android App on Google play" to download th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 02:58:24PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: > I used the Android app that Lionel has on the Sugarizer site. Thanks. I've had another look now. It was an image, not text, and I hadn't scrolled down that far. Sorry about that, Lionel! It works well. The clock did stop ticking

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, "James Cameron" wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: > > It's already packaged as an Android App :-) > > Click on the "Android App on Google play" to download the .apk file. > > Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would r

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer: the (dark) technical side

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
An excellent summary, thanks. Lionel Laské wrote: > 5) Activities issue: My philosophy with Sugarizer is "don't update > activities". How would you envisage an update of activities on an Android system that has an offline copy of Sugarizer? Speculation: bring the system online, update to new ver

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Dec 20, 2013 9:13 PM, "Lionel Laské" wrote: > > > Hi James, > > Regarding the search text box, you're right it's... not yet implemented. > > Regarding testing on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1, seems that Sameer had more luck than you: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151906199843752&set=pcb.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: > It's already packaged as an Android App :-) > Click on the "Android App on Google play" to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would respond to a click. Good to know you have published it on Goo

[Sugar-devel] Sugarizer: the (dark) technical side

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi all, Thanks a lot for your support to Sugarizer. Really appreciate. To complete the technical explanation on the first prototype [1], here a technical overview of the new Sugarizer. 1) Settings: Sugarizer use HTML5 localStorage feature to store user settings [2]. The settings is set in a key

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gambiarra game

2013-12-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Aleksey, could you please do this? If you're busy, I'll do it over the week-end. On 12/19/13 05:11, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Bernie, Aleksey, > Alan proposed work in this activity a month ago. > The owner was notified, but didn't replied, > can you give him access to the git repository? > Thanks >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
2013/12/20 James Cameron > > Is there a way to package this as an Android App? > > It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the "Android App on Google play" to download the .apk file. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-de

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread James Cameron
Thanks, it worked today. Speculation: browser was unable to download a dependency and there was no feedback about it. Is there a way to make it more resilient against failure to download dependencies? Is there a way to package this as an Android App? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

[Sugar-devel] [ANN] SqueakJS

2013-12-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi folks, this is still far from running Etoys in the browser, but it does work surprisingly well: http://croquetweak.blogspot.de/2013/12/squeakjs-lively-squeak-vm.html Have a great Christmas! - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-deve

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Paint-63

2013-12-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4082 Sugar Platform: 0.96 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28854/paint-63.xo Release notes: Implement drag a text while is in edition mode Fix bucket color - SL #4622 Fix the operation of end a selection

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi James, Regarding the search text box, you're right it's... not yet implemented. Regarding testing on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1, seems that Sameer had more luck than you: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151906199843752&set=pcb.10151906199923752&type=1&theater BTW, it's true that depend

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Add style.MENU_WIDTH_CHARS

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Hi! I make a simple patch, for set MENU_WIDTH_CHARS, by default is 60 :) I modified the files where max_width_chars appear Patch's attached. Greetings, Ignacio From f627b80d76e6add15996f02f97bb411563698579 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Ignacio Rodriguez Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:25:06 -0200 Sub

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > I know for sure that they are working on this > > http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/oop-iframes > > I don't know for sure if js could be single threaded despite that. > thanks _

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 20:54, Code Raguet wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > >> >>> chrome: not mandatory >>> >> >> But likely to be mandatory in the not too distant future. >> > are you sure about this? > I thought that browsers were moving towards single-thread wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > It should be possible but not as easy as tweaking a flag or something like > that. You would need to download from http using libsoup or something and > pipe data into the custom protocol stream. Yeah, I've seen that when I was looking at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > >> chrome: not mandatory >> > > But likely to be mandatory in the not too distant future. > are you sure about this? I thought that browsers were moving towards single-thread with webworkers API when parallelism is needed. I would probabl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Kim Toufectis
Lionel Laské olpc-france.org> writes: ... > > Hope you'll enjoy it, it's my Christmas gift to the Sugar community > > Best regards from France. > >     Lionel. > ... Wow. Brilliant, potentially the face of Sugar to come... Lets us introduce Sugar to so many more people!

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
about 1: This is a sugar-build bug (or maybe is my computer? :S) I only add the separator when the description label is added. 2013/12/20, Walter Bender : > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the >> description? >>

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Add prelight to frame icons

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Hi, I make a patch for #3293, My patch replace 'Gtk.ToolItem' by 'ToolButton', 'Icon' by 'PulsingIcon' About 'PulsingIcon' I recommend move it to sugar-toolkit, now are in sugar-core. Now: from jarabe.view.pulsingicon import PulsingIcon I recommend something like this: from sugar3.graphics.icon

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 16:54, Code Raguet wrote: > We should not set window.top.sugar = {} from the javascript side. Instead >> we should if isStandalone callback({}). > > yes, we are on it > > > My point in this thread is: > > *should we develop thread-safe code when handling window.top props???* >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 16:42, Code Raguet wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > >> What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? >> We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, >> recognizable user agents. > > > I lik

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Pushed the change, Iain could you test save as (PDF, Text...) again? Thanks Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > I have a fix for Write crash on export to pdf (waiting git.sl.o return to > the live to push it) > > Gonzalo > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Iai

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Thanks!! > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:24:54 -0800 > From: ber...@codewiz.org > To: gonz...@laptop.org; gdua...@activitycentral.com > CC: alsr...@sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down > > Aleksey notified me and I got the machine back onli

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Thanks! On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Aleksey notified me and I got the machine back online. > > We couldn't determine the root cause of the crash, and justice has been > running for about two years without a glitch. If it ever happens again, > we'll transfer the har

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Aleksey notified me and I got the machine back online. We couldn't determine the root cause of the crash, and justice has been running for about two years without a glitch. If it ever happens again, we'll transfer the hard drives to our hot spare freedom. I'll be on the west coast until Monday, b

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? > I really don't know if is good continue putting information in the palette, > it's already crowded. > > Gonzalo > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ignacio

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Lionel Laské wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of "Sugar as a web > page". This version now include the list view of the home, datastore > handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view. > > I've decided to name

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Very nice! I tried them all. The little animation tutorial for the Gears Activity was especially nice. This is a great start on something a lot of us have been talking about. Having it be web/server based is a great solution to a lot of problems. How difficult will it be to add things like Turt

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-web] do webkit frames run on different threads?

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
> > We should not set window.top.sugar = {} from the javascript side. Instead > we should if isStandalone callback({}). yes, we are on it My point in this thread is: *should we develop thread-safe code when handling window.top props???* chrome: not mandatory opera: yes, we should webkit: ???

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Code Raguet
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? > We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, > recognizable user agents. I like it Other approach may be registering an "acticity" schem

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Rogelio Mita
ok!, I understand you now, yes, can work using user agent 2013/12/20 Rogelio Mita > > 2013/12/20 Daniel Narvaez > >> What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? >> We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, >> recognizable user agents. >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I have a fix for Write crash on export to pdf (waiting git.sl.o return to the live to push it) Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Iain Brown Douglas < i...@browndouglas.plus.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 14:36 +0100, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > > On 20 December 2013 14:29, Iain Brown D

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 14:36 +0100, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 20 December 2013 14:29, Iain Brown Douglas > wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > > Hi Iain, > > Could you test Write from git > https://git.sugarlabs.org/write >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
>Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? Look at sugar-build bug :P In Xo-1.75 works perfect! 2013/12/20, Gonzalo Odiard : > Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the > description? > I really don't know if is good continue putting inform

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Why there are multiple separators (horizontal lines) around the description? I really don't know if is good continue putting information in the palette, it's already crowded. Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote: > Hi all. > > I make a patch for #4686: > """ > Enha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Rogelio Mita
2013/12/20 Daniel Narvaez > What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? > We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, > recognizable user agents. sorry I don't understand how this will help us, the expected is that "sugar-web-test" and a "

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Art-195

2013-12-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4298 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28853/turtle_art_mini-195.xo Release notes: 195 Resync with Turtle Blocks 195 Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Bastien
Lionel Laské writes: > I've decided to name it "Sugarizer" and package it as a dedicated web > site: > >http://sugarizer.org Nice! Time to organize a small "Sugar on the Web" workshop in France I guess :) A happy xmas/new year to all of you, -- Bastien __

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette

2013-12-20 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
Hi all. I make a patch for #4686: """ Enhancement: show object description in its palette Found it in a design at the wiki: ​http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Journal-04.jpeg Making descriptions be shown upfront throughout the interface, would increase the usefullness of the description box, and m

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-195

2013-12-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28852/turtleblocks-195.xo Release notes: 195 ENHANCEMENTS: * New translations BUG FIX: * Added missing parens for some binary operations in Py

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 December 2013 14:29, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > Hi Iain, > > Could you test Write from git https://git.sugarlabs.org/write > > and confirm if is working for you? > > > Testing environment: > Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-20-TC5

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Hi Iain, > Could you test Write from git https://git.sugarlabs.org/write > and confirm if is working for you? > Testing environment: Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-20-TC5 In both a Sugar-session and sugar-runner, Write successfully save

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 09:46 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Surely a different issue. > You should look at the shell.log file to see if there are any clue > about collaboration. > > I do not perceive where the collaboration error came from. == Just to side line this issue == What

Re: [Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Looks down. cc: Bernie & Aleksey Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Gustavo Duarte wrote: > Hi guys, > > Is git.sugarlabs.org service down ? > > Somebody know something ? > > Gustavo. > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugar

[Sugar-devel] git sugarlabs is down

2013-12-20 Thread Gustavo Duarte
Hi guys, Is git.sugarlabs.org service down ? Somebody know something ? Gustavo. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trouble saving Write 94 in Fedora 20

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Surely a different issue. You should look at the shell.log file to see if there are any clue about collaboration. Gonzalo On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Iain Brown Douglas < i...@browndouglas.plus.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:59 -0200, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > Hi Iain, > > Could yo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Very nice! Good work Lionel. Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Lionel Laské wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of "Sugar as a > web page". This version now include the list view of the home, datastore > handling, popup menu on activities, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Impressive! On 20 December 2013 07:52, Lionel Laské wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of "Sugar as a > web page". This version now include the list view of the home, datastore > handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view. > > I've decided

Re: [Sugar-devel] [web-activity] functional tests and env.isStandalone's current implementation

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Ouch! Now I see, I had no thought of this issue... Good find! What about using the user agent in isStandalone instead of the protocol? We can make the web activity and the sugar-web-test use two different, recognizable user agents. On Friday, 20 December 2013, Rogelio Mita wrote: > > 2013/12/19