Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature freeze

2014-03-29 Thread Daniel Narvaez
We are not approaching 0.101.4 and the feature freeze, three days left.
There are three pull requests that I feel the freeze would apply to

https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/192
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/88
(These are probably in manuq court).

https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/124

Is there anything else outside the review queue?



On 13 March 2014 13:26, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:




 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 13 March 2014 08:50, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Daniel would you be amicable to stretching it out by a month so we
 have one more round of dev releases before entering freeze?


 Sorry for the delay on closing down this issue, I have been busy. I'll
 try to keep it short so that we can all go back at work asap.

 I think we are taking the wrong decision in the wrong way here. I have
 yet to see a rationale for proposing a delay. We are apparently trying to
 save some time for some deployment team, and I'd argue we are not even
 saving much. I don't like this kind of ad hoc decisions, as an upstream we
 should be thinking less about our own short time priorities and more about
 potential contributors. I'm not in love with time based releases, as I have
 pointed out in the past, but we should be reconsidering our release
 approach as a whole, if it's not good enough, rather than making an
 exception for not particularly good reasons.


 I see your point, but I think is better separate the issue of extend these
 release cycle,
 to start a discussion about how we will manage the release cycle in the
 future.
 Maybe we should define a time, after 0.102, to review our release strategy.




 That said, I think the community consensus is pretty clear, I'm the only
 one in disagreement. So please someone send me the new release dates and
 I'll update the schedule.



 After ask manuq, and reading other comments here, I propose:

 0.101.4 - 04/01/14 - Feature Freeze
 0.101.5 - 05/01/14 - String, UI, API freeze
 0.102.0 - 06/01/14 - Final release

 Now, back to work! We need do good use of this time!

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature freeze

2014-03-29 Thread Walter Bender
I have been trying to fix a problem with
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/316 (which fixes SL #800)
If I disable interaction with GNOME, it seems to work, but somehow it
gets confused when sending/receiving notifications between Sugar and
GNOME. Hope to track it down over the weekend.

-walter

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
 We are not approaching 0.101.4 and the feature freeze, three days left.
 There are three pull requests that I feel the freeze would apply to

 https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/192
 https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/88
 (These are probably in manuq court).

 https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/124

 Is there anything else outside the review queue?



 On 13 March 2014 13:26, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:




 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On 13 March 2014 08:50, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Daniel would you be amicable to stretching it out by a month so we
 have one more round of dev releases before entering freeze?


 Sorry for the delay on closing down this issue, I have been busy. I'll
 try to keep it short so that we can all go back at work asap.

 I think we are taking the wrong decision in the wrong way here. I have
 yet to see a rationale for proposing a delay. We are apparently trying to
 save some time for some deployment team, and I'd argue we are not even
 saving much. I don't like this kind of ad hoc decisions, as an upstream we
 should be thinking less about our own short time priorities and more about
 potential contributors. I'm not in love with time based releases, as I have
 pointed out in the past, but we should be reconsidering our release approach
 as a whole, if it's not good enough, rather than making an exception for not
 particularly good reasons.


 I see your point, but I think is better separate the issue of extend these
 release cycle,
 to start a discussion about how we will manage the release cycle in the
 future.
 Maybe we should define a time, after 0.102, to review our release
 strategy.




 That said, I think the community consensus is pretty clear, I'm the only
 one in disagreement. So please someone send me the new release dates and
 I'll update the schedule.



 After ask manuq, and reading other comments here, I propose:

 0.101.4 - 04/01/14 - Feature Freeze
 0.101.5 - 05/01/14 - String, UI, API freeze
 0.102.0 - 06/01/14 - Final release

 Now, back to work! We need do good use of this time!

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[Sugar-devel] Pep8 1.5.1

2014-03-29 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello,

I just updated sugar-build to use pep8 1.5.1. Please osbuild pull asap if
you are submitting patches, to avoid osbuild check errors when the code
will be merged.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] shipped languages/locales

2014-03-29 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
dnarvaez,
Any idea about what should we do with this?

Gonzalo


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Yes, but is not a problem in the rpm, but in the sources repository.

 Gonzalo


 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca wrote:

 The hint was given in the initial email, alter ALL_LINGUAS= in
 /configure.ac

 Jerry

  On March 26, 2014 at 1:27 PM Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:
 
 
  Maybe the reason is we don't have en_GB in the variable ALL_LINGUAS in
  the
   Makefile.in
  in sugar/po directory.
 
  In my system:
  * we have a file en_GB.po sugar-build/sugar/po/
  * the file is not copied
  in sugar-build/build/out/install/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES
 
  not sure how Makefile.in is created, here Makefile.in.in
  is a link to /usr/share/intltool/Makefile.in.in
 
  Gonzalo
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca wrote:
 
   I know there is no translations for en_AU in Pootle therefore not in
   sugar,
   but en_GB was used in the past as a substitute for this shortcoming.
   There
   are languages in Pootle that form the source tar file that becomes
 part
   of
   the source rpm, however the resulting installable rpm doesn't ship all
   the
   languages available from the source rpm. This thread started with the
   question should all the available translations from Pootle be shipped
   in
   the rpm, and that question still stands.
  
   Jerry
  
On March 26, 2014 at 11:53 AM Chris Leonard
cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
   
We do not have an en_AU language project in Pootle, so that does not
surprise me.
   
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca wrote:
 That is strange, I don't see en_AU's translation file when
 extracting
 the
 files from the released rpm[1]. The src[2] rpm's tar file only
 lists
 en_GB
 and en_USA, but those are not in the released rpm and not en_AU at
 all.

 Jerry

 1.

  
 http://harvest.one-education.org/public/au1b-updates/RPMS/sugar-0.100.1-10.olpcau.noarch.rpm
 2.

  
 http://harvest.one-education.org/public/au1b-updates/SRPMS/sugar-0.100.1-10.olpcau.src.rpm


 On March 26, 2014 at 9:07 AM Gonzalo Odiard
 godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:


 We included en_AU, but not en_GB.
 Will be in the next image.

 Gonzalo


 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Chris Leonard
 cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote:

  I believe AU makes their own build with en_GB.
 
  cjl
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca
  wrote:
   Just wondering how AU is reacting without having the correct
   spelling
   for
   'favourites', 'neighbourhood' that comes with en_BR. This is
 a
   regression
   from DX4 that included such support. It would be better would
   really
   support en_AU thou.
  
   just my thoughts,
  
   Jerry
  
   On March 26, 2014 at 6:59 AM Gonzalo Odiard
   godi...@sugarlabs.org
   wrote:
  
  
   I think was done to preserve space.
   Not sure if that is a concern now.
  
   Gonzalo
  
  
   On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 8:43 PM, me m...@jvonau.ca wrote:
  
Hi All:
   
I'm wondering if there is any reason why there are po
 files
generated
for
the source in git, these are included as .mo files in the
src
rpm,
but
not
shipped in the released rpms. Compare the list in git[1]
and
what
becomes
installed in the resulting rpm through ALL_LINGUAS=[2].
Is
there
any
reason for this? Would it be worthwhile to ship all
available
translations?
   
Jerry
   
1. https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/tree/master/po
2.
   
 https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/configure.ac
   
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