Re: [Sugar-devel] Development Team Meeting, 20th March 9PM UTC

[James Cameron]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 02:13:30PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
> 20th March, at 5PM US/Eastern (9PM UTC).

Attending were James, Rahul, Thomas, Yash, Rishabh, and Pratul.

> 
> Agenda to include
> 
> - what we have been working on,

Rahul has discussed Python 3 porting with Eklabya Sharma, who ported
Zulip.  Rahul has worked on GSoC proposal and tried to fix Journal
accessibility.

James has tested Fedora 28 beta, Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic beta, built a
Sugar desktop with new maintenance release of Ubuntu 16.04.4, tested
Jupyter Notebook, learned how to make backups of a Postgres instance,
and reviewed the release of the Words activity.  And reviewed and
merged pull requests.

Yash has tested a bunch of activities on Fedora 28, and worked on
GSoC proposal.

Rishabh has worked on GSoC proposal, worked minor Sugarizer issues,
and tried to get their Raspberry Pi 3 to run as a hotspot.

Thomas has tested latest Fedora 28 pre-beta SoaS.

Pratul has looked at using Sphinx for generating HTML from markdown.
(James suggested using command-line "markdown" package and "pandoc".)

> #sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Madagascar efforts of OLPC-FR, recently reported in English

[James Cameron]

Thanks!

The study is available as PDF
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/15391523.2017.1388200?needAccess=true

Consequences for Sugar Labs development priorities are;

- Record activity is critical for home use, relevant to family
  dynamics; so we must urgently port this to GTK+ 3 in order that it
  remains available,

- Turtle Art activity was not often understood (page 11, "most (use)
  limited to a disorganized set of juxtaposed bricks"), so an embedded
  ramp up or tutorial may be helpful,

- Ruler activity was in lessons; so we must urgently fix whatever is
  stopping it from working in order that it remains available,

- Record activity needs a mirror mode for hairstyling, (page 12),

- an activity for providing a light source, (page 12, page 14),

- an activity focusing on drill and practice of memory may be of use;
  something like the spaced repetition of Mnemosyne, Anki or Memrise.

In case anyone needs a shortened URL, the media article is also
accessible as https://theconversation.com/the-93305

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Review Request of GSoC Proposal: Making a Beginner Guide

[James Cameron]

Thanks, I've no further suggestions.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 08:45:32PM +0530, Pratul Kumar wrote:
> *
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for providing feedback and guiding me in the right direction.
> I have worked on it and tried to add them and make things bit more refined.
> 
> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/
> 1Xzn-ub8pBCQuz9-RfltzHqDZqY7uZ2xF77MFP_9fKzw/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> Kindly have a look at it and if there is something which can be improved,
> kindly let me know,
> I will be more than happy to work on it.
> 
> Regards,
> Pratul Kumar
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 1:02 PM, James Cameron <[2]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> 
> G'day Pratul,
> 
> Thanks for the opportunity to comment on your draft proposal.
> 
> Your proposal suffers from lack of measurable controls for risks.  In
> general, you've added responses to the risks which are mostly either
> aspirational, hopeful, or procedural.  Some of the responses don't
> address the risks.
> 
> For reference, here is what I had previously written on these risks;
> 
> 
> [3]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055030.html
> 
> Please do not use HTML for the beginner guide.  Instead, please use
> Markdown.  Markdown has a wider audience of authors.  HTML should be
> generated automatically.
> 
> Please consider better controls for risk #3.  My post on 14th February
> gave some ideas.  Just claiming that you'd like to keep working on the
> project after GSoC ... doesn't seem probable.  It is aspirational.
>
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> [5] https://www.linkedin.com/in/pratul1997/
> [6] https://github.com/Pratul1997

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Introduction and review request of GSoC Proposal:

[James Cameron]

On IRC #sugar Vipul Gupta asked;

 Hey, in the Activity task of migration. We need to
migrate content from activities page to their Githubs or their git
pages.

 ?

 Please clarify which one is it. Some pages don't have
the links of their repository

 The organisations is not uniform. I have included
this in my proposal too.

 vipulgupta2048: need to write a program that will migrate
content from wiki.sugarlabs.org activities page to respective GitHub
repository README.md files, yet without duplicating what is there, and
without duplicating user documentation in the help-activity, see
recent posts to sugar-devel@ discussing the issue.

 vipulgupta2048: did you get the above?  if not, i'll have to
write a mail.

My recent post is quoted below and can be found in the mailing list
archives.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:04:02PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> G'day Rudra,
> 
> Thanks for being at the meeting earlier, and for your proposal.
> 
> A project for GSoC 2013 added context sensitive help, or user
> documentation, to the Sugar desktop, with alt+shift+h key.
> 
> It works with the Help activity.  Metadata in the Help activity links a
> subject activity to a markdown source file, which is converted to HTML
> and rendered in a tiny browser.
> 
> Many of these source files came from the Wiki pages of activities, and
> have been updated since then.
> 
> Please review and integrate the Help activity into your proposal; for
> instance;
> 
> - avoid duplicating user documentation into activity repositories,
>   because that would make for unncessary maintenance burden, or;
> 
> - move some of the Help activity files into activity repositories and
>   provide a way to update the Help activity from the subject
>   activities.
> 
> Please review the discussion on these two pull requests;
> 
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137
> 
> And then ask any questions to clarify, thanks.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Involving InGSoC 2018

[Danishka Navin]

Thanks Walter!

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/Template
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:54 PM Danishka Navin  wrote:
>
>> btw, is there a template for GSoC proposal?
>>
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Involving InGSoC 2018

[Walter Bender]

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/Template


On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:54 PM Danishka Navin  wrote:

> btw, is there a template for GSoC proposal?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Involving InGSoC 2018

[Danishka Navin]

btw, is there a template for GSoC proposal?



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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC 2018 Introduction

[Carlos mauro]

Hi friend

Try to deploy the sugar enviroment and make a litle customizations. Please
try to explain your advance  here like «i download the source code from the
git and in the deploy process found this error»

 With this information in the list we can help you to fix that. And the
other is try to apply your draft into the gsoc  asap because the time
finish in only 7 days

El 19 mar. 2018 1:20 p. m., "Ayush Agrawal" 
escribió:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I would like to take this opportunity of introducing myself to the
> SugarLabs community. I am Ayush Agrawal, a first year undergraduate from
> BITS Pilani Goa, India. I am a prospective GSoC student and have identified
> the project "Learn to program in Turtle Art" as something that piques my
> interest and lies within my capabilities. I am a self taught programmer and
> I understand very well how much difficult it is for a new person to start
> with a programming language and hence, this project. I can code in
> Java(very good), python and C++. I don't know much about website
> development but I think I can learn it during the community bonding period.
> But I believe I can surely make very good exercises which will 100% teach
> the user about how to use TurtleArt.
>
> Earlier, I was working on the Full-Color Icon project for GSOC but my
> computer system had some trouble regarding development of Sugar as
> dual-boot so I dropped the idea. I need your help in this and each and
> every suggestion is appreciated. Since, this is a new project and there is
> not much time left for Proposal Submission Timeline, it will be very
> helpful if you can help me figure this out and let me know what my rough
> timeline for gsoc should be like. Let me know if someone can help me write
> a  proposal. I look forward to interacting with all the developers and
> contributing to the organization to the best of my abilities.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] Self-introduction

[Carlos mauro]

Hi Friend

Ver good suggestion but try to apply a draft into the gsoc asap and you
will get more feedback. And include mockups inside.

You have only 7 days

El 20 mar. 2018 3:29 a. m., "罗文博"  escribió:

> To whom it may concern:
>
> I hope this email finds you well.
>
> My name is Wenbo Luo. Currently I'm a year 3 student in the Chinese
> University of Hong Kong (Shenzhen), major in Computer Science and
> Engineering. I want to pursuit Human-Computer Iteraction master programs in
> the future and I have learnt some basic knowledge in this area on Coursera.
>
> Not long ago, I heard about GSoC and I'm really interested in the work
> that Sugarlabs has done and the project of Sugarlabs Social, which is about
> creating a social website. I have been working on the proposal. I know that
> it's almost due but still I sincerely hope that you could offer some
> suggestions.
>
> 1. I set one tag, only for Sugar, in my designed prototype to make this
> sugarlabs website different from normal website. But I found it quite
> burdonsome. Thus I wonder if it is necessary or if there's better way to
> make it different from social website like medium?
>
> 2. I wonder if it is practical to set one month to develop the front-end
> and the other two month for the development of the back-end?
>
> Thank you for the time and looking forward to your reply.
>
> Best Regards,
> Wenbo Luo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 22

[tola temitope]

Good day all, My name is Ore-aruwaji oloruntola from Kwara Nigeria.

I am so passionate about open source and i will love to contribute deeply
during this Google summer of code with sugar labs

I'm  a Python developer, django developer, programmer and open source
enthusiast.

I am currently a student at Landmark university Omu-aran kwara Nigeria.

I would love to participate on the Social project from the wiki website of
sugarlabs

I would love to share and discuss ideas with the sugarlabs community




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>4. Re: [GSoC]  Self-Introduction (Shubhendra Singh Chauhan)
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> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:18:14 +
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> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Self-Introduction
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> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 6:08 AM Shubhendra Singh Chauhan <
> withsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > My name is Shubhendra Singh Chauhan. I’m an UnderGrad Student pursuing
> > B.tech second year in Computer Science & Engineering at Jaypee University
> > of Engineering and Technology, Madhya Pradesh, India.
> >
> > I'm a Web Developer, Graphic Designer, Programmer and Open Source
> > Enthusiast.
> >
> > I am applying for google summer of code and I choose to contribute to
> > Internationalization and Localization project.
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> Thank You, Carlos and Walter, for your suggestions.
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> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
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> > Maybe you can reach out directly to c...@sugarlabs.org?
> >
> > -walter
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 6:08 AM Shubhendra Singh Chauhan <
> > withsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> My name is Shubhendra Singh Chauhan. I’m an UnderGrad Student pursuing
> >> B.tech second year in Computer Science & Engineering at Jaypee
> University
> >> of Engineering and Technology, Madhya Pradesh, India.
> >>
> >> I'm a Web Developer, Graphic Designer, Programmer and Open Source
> >> Enthusiast.
> >>
> >> I am applying for google summer of code and I choose to contribute to
> >> Internationalization and Localization project.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss more about it with community members.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Shubhendra Singh Chauhan
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Review Request of GSoC Proposal: Making a Beginner Guide

[Pratul Kumar]

 Hello,

Thanks for providing feedback and guiding me in the right direction.
I have worked on it and tried to add them and make things bit more refined.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xzn-ub8pBCQuz9-RfltzHqDZqY7uZ2xF77MFP_9fKzw/edit?usp=sharing

Kindly have a look at it and if there is something which can be improved,
kindly let me know,
I will be more than happy to work on it.

Regards,
Pratul Kumar

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 1:02 PM, James Cameron  wrote:

> G'day Pratul,
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to comment on your draft proposal.
>
> Your proposal suffers from lack of measurable controls for risks.  In
> general, you've added responses to the risks which are mostly either
> aspirational, hopeful, or procedural.  Some of the responses don't
> address the risks.
>
> For reference, here is what I had previously written on these risks;
>
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055030.html
>
> Please do not use HTML for the beginner guide.  Instead, please use
> Markdown.  Markdown has a wider audience of authors.  HTML should be
> generated automatically.
>
> Please consider better controls for risk #3.  My post on 14th February
> gave some ideas.  Just claiming that you'd like to keep working on the
> project after GSoC ... doesn't seem probable.  It is aspirational.
>
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[Sugar-devel] [GSoC] Self-introduction

[罗文博]

To whom it may concern:

I hope this email finds you well.

My name is Wenbo Luo. Currently I'm a year 3 student in the Chinese
University of Hong Kong (Shenzhen), major in Computer Science and
Engineering. I want to pursuit Human-Computer Iteraction master programs in
the future and I have learnt some basic knowledge in this area on Coursera.

Not long ago, I heard about GSoC and I'm really interested in the work that
Sugarlabs has done and the project of Sugarlabs Social, which is about
creating a social website. I have been working on the proposal. I know that
it's almost due but still I sincerely hope that you could offer some
suggestions.

1. I set one tag, only for Sugar, in my designed prototype to make this
sugarlabs website different from normal website. But I found it quite
burdonsome. Thus I wonder if it is necessary or if there's better way to
make it different from social website like medium?

2. I wonder if it is practical to set one month to develop the front-end
and the other two month for the development of the back-end?

Thank you for the time and looking forward to your reply.

Best Regards,
Wenbo Luo
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