Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Zero Install integresion request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Zero_Install_integration The reason for this feature is to cover situations * an activity has dependencies that weren't included to the Sugar * Platform * install/build activity specific binaries * run non-sugar applications that are not well

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Sugar_Bundles One file format to transfer various types of content in/out to/from sugar environment with keeping metadata. In fact, this feature is an end users oriented(technically we not invent super format for various types of content, just

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: It seems time to think about the next _big_ technical issue for growing Sugar Labs. Clearly articulating the Sugar Stack. For the last year or so, we have been circling the issue with talk of stable APIs, Glucose, Fructose, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 05:56:42PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: Many of the discussion about this have stalled because of confusion over what aspect the stack we are trying to define. As a starting point, I would suggest: 1

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:40:00PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Out of sugar environment, users know that there is only one type of sugar objects and only thing they should do to activate them is uploading .xo file to Journal

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects(see [1] ml thread) feature but make it less invasive in case existed user experience.

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] TableView Widget request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/TableView_Widget GTK widget to replace gtk.TreeView in Journal. Benefit to Sugar Standard gtk components are not designed to be lazy. Third party widgets, I managed to find, uses scheme with renders(like gtk components), introduced component uses

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:16:30PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.11.2009, at 17:16, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:08:53PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.11.2009, at 17:16, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged, Sugar Platform should be enhanced to include build tools (autocrap, c(++) compiler, ...); in that case, activity authors can also

Re: [Sugar-devel] sharing question

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 08:35:42AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: I have a new activity (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4246) to which I am about to add sharing. It will hat be pretty straight forward in terms of simply exchanging game state and mouse clicks, but I want to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:34:45PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:54:49PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:34:45PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:50:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged, Sugar Platform should be enhanced to include build tools (autocrap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 03:10:29PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:50:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by the activity version number. For example,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] aslo - CDN

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:17:20PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: [cc += sugar-de...@] On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 08:44 -0600, dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Many people have access to the upload directory. We could mitigate this by using separate groups. We already use a soas group for soas.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:58:57PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:18:47PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: This isn't quite accurate. We've been adding some pre-loaded content to the Journal for quite some time now,

[Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one place. So, the question is will html page which lists all ASLO activities in microformat enough for OLPC updater. -- Aleksey

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.87.1

2009-12-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.87.1.tar.bz2 == News == * Make reading version file more robust (sayamindu) #1562 * Use gobject_timeout_add_seconds to make power usage more efficient (sayamindu) #1567

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Etoys-113

2009-12-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:08:10PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 21:05, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:54:26PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 20:42, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:34:35PM -0600, dfarn...@sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle, we

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Actions request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, I've created a stub feature page[1] for actions metaphor. Could someone, who are original initiators(or have ideas) of this feature, tweak wiki page to cover all workflows that they have in mind for Actions in Journal. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Actions -- Aleksey

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, This post is not about particular feature but about proposed to 0.88 features that can be composited to one set. Some of them could be implemented in 0.88 partially, some are invasive, some not. We lost possibility to push several such features in 0.86 and we have a chance to do it once

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Journal Reload a new attempt

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
(oops, wrong subject) Hi all, This post is not about particular feature but about proposed to 0.88 features that can be composited to one set. Some of them could be implemented in 0.88 partially, some are invasive, some not. We lost possibility to push several such features in 0.86 and we have

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Journal Reload a new attempt

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
..to continue summarising.. In fact, all proposed features are not about increasing complexity but about decreasing for floor level - user all time works with sugar objects(activities, activity objects, foreign object etc) but from different views. And let developers/deployments/teachers

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 04:38:56PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 21:24, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 20:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] TableView Widget request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:37:07PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/28/2009 05:00 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Hi Aleksey, thanks for proposing this feature! http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/TableView_Widget GTK widget to replace gtk.TreeView in Journal. Benefit

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: On 6 Dec 2009, at 21:19, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/11/27 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:13:55AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:57:01AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/07/2009 05:58 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: On 6 Dec 2009, at 21:19, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/11/27 Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:01:16PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:09:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Sorry I didn't enter into the other discussions about your features yet; I'm having quite a hard time understanding most of what you write. Would be nice if you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:24:14PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:01:16PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:09:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Sorry I didn't enter into the other discussions about your features yet; I'm having quite a hard

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:05:30AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/07/2009 01:09 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:57:01AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/07/2009 05:58 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: The core idea of plugins is exactly to avoid situation when we have

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Google result displays Mozilla description

2009-12-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 11:37:18AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:55:47PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: Activities for Sugar Customize Firefox, Thunderbird, and other Mozilla products with thousands of free extensions and themes. activities.sugarlabs.org/ - the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Scrollbar width

2009-12-10 Thread Aleksey Lim
mentioned CartoonBuilder's code, affects only to current process (FWIW, I'm really surprised that gtk.Scrollbar doesn't allow for varying scrollbar width.) Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Installing ASLO

2009-12-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:02:45PM -0200, Javier Valenzani wrote: I'm trying to install an instance of ASLO following this guide at the Wiki (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Devel/Installing#Install_server). I've installed all packages, configured Apache, MySql, clone the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] activity.info enhancements

2009-12-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:43:56PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: Summary: It would facilitate the packaging of Sugar activities into RPMs and DEBs if there were additional information available in the activity.info file. Details: In walking the process of creating an RPM of one of my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:31:43PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 01:48:19PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module

Re: [Sugar-devel] File Share Activity

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 06:28:40PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Justin, On 12 Dec 2009, at 16:17, Justin Lewis wrote: I am not the author of Bundle. If people would like to test it, fine by me. This was written mainly to get some sort of file transfer system on the olpc. Another

Re: [Sugar-devel] File Share Activity

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
..and making my thoughts more clear :) On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 06:28:40PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: 2). As a separate activity it can be developed out side of the Sucrose development/release cycle and team. that was another reason for Plugins proposal(now Shell Integration API) 3) As a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
Wade, could you prepare shell agnostic code, it could be utilized in saccharin to report problems while downloading/compiling, so having the same UI would be useful. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:47:05PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hi all, Here is my feature proposal for Sugar Problem Reports.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 02:43:57AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Wade, could you prepare shell agnostic code, it could be utilized in saccharin to report problems while downloading/compiling, so having the same UI would be useful. btw that could be another point for Shell UI Integration proposal

Re: [Sugar-devel] create new Sugar SIG group on google groups or lists.sugarlabs.org?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:31:53AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: It is time for me to create a mailing list for the Karma SIG. I would prefer to use a google group over using the mailman lists because is it easier to search the google group. What are the pros of using mailman (

Re: [Sugar-devel] create new Sugar SIG group on google groups or lists.sugarlabs.org?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 02:52:05AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:31:53AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: It is time for me to create a mailing list for the Karma SIG. I would prefer to use a google group over using the mailman lists because is it easier to search the google

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, At the end Journal Plugins mutated to Frame Panles feature. All UI visible changes I wanted to implement in plugins could be done via Frame Panle components(the rest of code are shell agnostic). Frame Panles feature has the same major idea, social context - giving non core developers

[Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, (be careful, pathos content:) I'm going to post about my sugar vision(not only about technical cases) which I'm going to implement during 0.88 release cycle(though non of these points are tight to sucrose releases). The major point of some of my proposals to 0.88 sucrose has social

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
. And sugargames as well. -Wade On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Wade, could you prepare shell agnostic code, it could be utilized in saccharin to report problems while downloading/compiling, so having the same UI would be useful. On Sat, Dec 12

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
..to continue Zero Sugar initiative discussion on technical field.. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Services == Detailed Description == This proposal assumes that the core of sugar development(in common sense) is variety of developers rather then developers who are taking part in sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 01:01:04PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:10:48PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Sure, shouldn't be hard. It actually has no dependencies on the shell other than jarabe.controlpanel.sectionview.SectionView which the dialog is based on. What

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 01:23:47PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 01:42, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 04:38:56PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 21:24, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 20:02, Aleksey Lim

Re: [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:48:39PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the *sound* of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 03:47:23PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 03:42, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, At the end Journal Plugins mutated to Frame Panles feature. All UI visible changes I wanted to implement in plugins could be done via Frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 01:34:38PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, At the end Journal Plugins mutated to Frame Panles feature. All UI visible changes I wanted to implement in plugins could be done via Frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:19:51PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:25, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Aleksey Lim wrote: So, I have strong intension to switching development focus from core team, which develops sucrose - glucose(core

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
purposes so, users on any distro can install last development release of sugar by trivial gestures - copy past 0install url and click OK Icarito 2009/12/14 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 17:01, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Aleksey Lim wrote: So, I have strong intension to switching development focus from core team, which develops sucrose - glucose(core) and fructose(some core activities) to wide range of developers/doers thus some kind

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 02:01:18PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: On 15 Dec 2009, at 13:36, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:52:56AM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:07, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: * implementing Zero Sugar initiative, in my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] TableView Widget request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:28:23PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 14:53, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:37:07PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/28/2009 05:00 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Hi Aleksey, thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30:22PM -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: Hello all. As our 5th graders are doing more and more work with their XOs, their being able to turn in and share their work products (as opposed to collaborating with others) is becoming more and more important. My temporary

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
to Library and we will have two sharing activities FileShare and Library-2. Thanks. Gerald On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30:22PM -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: Hello all. As our 5th graders are doing more and more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems adding my source code to GIT at git.sugarlabs.org.

2009-12-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 08:44:23PM +0100, Behavior Vehikel wrote: Navigating on git.sugarlabs.org to my account details (Username: Nostalghia) a SSH key is displayed. It is the same key I had in /.ssh/ Nostalghia.pub my key ends with st...@vehikel. Is this not correct? should be ok

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Zero Install integresion request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:35:25PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Zero_Install_integration The reason for this feature is to cover situations * an activity has dependencies that weren't included to the Sugar * Platform * install/build activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] About the need for .xo bundles (again) (was Re: safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?))

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:18:01PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 10:10:59PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/1 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: They haven't solved the problems we want to solve and are probably not even interested in trying. I'm a bit suprised you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Maintaining activities for older releases (was Re: Initial implementation of toolbars design)

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:38:48AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:48, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:37:24PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:33

Re: [Sugar-devel] Maintaining activities for older releases (was Re: Initial implementation of toolbars design)

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:45:03PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:38:48AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:48, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:37

Re: [Sugar-devel] diagnose record activity problem

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:57:40PM +, Rodolfo D. wrote: Hello: I'm trying to get sugar on a stick (blueberry) to work on a couple of notebooks. A toshiba L305D and an Asus EEEPc701 When trying to launch the record activity, it doesn't start I looked into the LOG activity and found

Re: [Sugar-devel] diagnose record activity problem

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:07:31PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:57:40PM +, Rodolfo D. wrote: Hello: I'm trying to get sugar on a stick (blueberry) to work on a couple of notebooks. A toshiba L305D and an Asus EEEPc701 When trying to launch the record

Re: [Sugar-devel] diagnose record activity problem

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:09:40PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:07:31PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:57:40PM +, Rodolfo D. wrote: Hello: I'm trying to get sugar on a stick (blueberry) to work on a couple of notebooks. A toshiba

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO stats

2009-12-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 05:05:31PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hi, two questions about ASLO statistics [1]: 1. How is the Active Daily Users statistic calculated? I wasn't aware of any feature in Sugar that would track how often activities are launched. It seems to have started to record

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.87.2

2009-12-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.87.2.tar.bz2 == News == * copy-to-journal dbus error #573 * file descriptor leak in filestore.retrieve() #1550 * range queries use lexical comparison, not numerical #1342 * add and use type

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release StopWatch-4

2009-12-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 06:53:45PM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:24:51AM -0500, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4263 ASLO doesn't say ... but is there a git repo for this code and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Various / PDF resources in Moodle

2009-12-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:47:44AM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:47 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: I discovered two issues in this process. (1) It's difficult to know which are the latest stable versions of activities as the OLPC and Sugar

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.84.1

2009-12-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.84.1.tar.bz2 == News == * Add standard info files * Add AM_MAINTAINER_MODE macro to configure.ac * file descriptor leak in filestore.retrieve() #1550 * Make reading version file more robust

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:12:33PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've uploaded patch with minor fixes and delete fix (b0113bf67c31dbeaa08cf0f1710c1be8d02a9b25 should be cherry-picked) Excellent! thanks! Will be re

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Services

2010-01-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
Happy New Year to all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Services It is the first version Sugar Services infrastructure which is ready to test or use in simple cases(see Known Issues[1]). In short terms it's about adding decentralized method to support various activity dependencies.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non sugar activities on ASLO

2010-01-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:46:52PM -0600, Jim Simmons wrote: Aleksey, It would be helpful to have a way to distribute things like the gstreamer espeak plugin you wrote. Fedora doesn't currently include it. It would be even better if you could distribute versions that work on the XO

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Services

2010-01-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:50:08PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 19:12, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Happy New Year to all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Services I don't think I fully understand your plan with services yet, but when you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Services

2010-01-04 Thread Aleksey Lim
/go/Features/Zero_Install_integration On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:12:01PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Happy New Year to all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Services It is the first version Sugar Services infrastructure which is ready to test or use in simple cases(see Known Issues[1

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Services

2010-01-04 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:36:55AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: As was predicted, there could be issue w/ downloading new activities from ASLO and first launch them w/o net(see http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1641) looks like it could be fixed w/o implementing offline mode in shell(thus only

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Journal Reload a new attempt

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:56:28PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 03:20, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: (oops, wrong subject) Hi all, This post is not about particular feature but about proposed to 0.88 features that can be composited to one set

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Journal Reload a new attempt

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 08:37:09AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:56:28PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 03:20, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: (oops, wrong subject) Hi all, This post is not about particular feature but about

Re: [Sugar-devel] suggestions for additions to platform page

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 05:32:44PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:54, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: vte (and Python bindings) should be added (Terminal requires this) and it should be noted explicitly that python bindings for csound are required (Pippy and other

[Sugar-devel] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Background: Step in issue, sugar is not unique here, thats the problem for other FOSS projects as well. But sugar has it's own specific nature - sugar stimulates(at least should) doing not just using, our audience could have additional layers - teachers for examples. Projects

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 11:58:17AM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Aleksey Lim wrote: So, the question is should we have special place to treat such issues in convenient and casual developer/requester friendly manner. -1 1. Fragmentation is bad. We should instead attempt to unify

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:16:29PM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Aleksey Lim wrote: collab.sl.o shouldn't be development site but central point there devs, users, doers, educators meet. Thus it shouldn't dublicate sites like wiki/track/etc. What do you mean by meet? Are you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:05:31PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, Background:  Step in issue, sugar is not unique here, thats the problem for other  FOSS projects as well. But sugar has it's own specific

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:15:46PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I personally like what Greg Smith did back at OLPC: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_requests does anyone know the right ml link for http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap#Overview -- now it points to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Release 9.0 ... Finally.

2010-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 11:53:57PM +0100, Bruno Coudoin wrote: After two years of work, the GCompris development team is happy to share with you the release of the version 9.0. GCompris is almost 10 years old and it needed to make some deep code restructuring. This release brings many

[Sugar-devel] Mockup for collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Maybe initial question was obvious(at least in case of necessity of fixing some issues in sugar workflows). http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Collab_mockup It is initial mockup which describes possible collab.sugarlabs.org workflows. It's not about particular implementation only how site

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Services

2010-01-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: As was predicted, there could be issue w/ downloading new activities from ASLO and first launch them w/o net(see http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1641) looks like it could be fixed w/o implementing offline mode

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Mockup for collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:28:52PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: All mentioned above could be(already) done in existed env. But the major idea of collab.sl.o proposal is bringing life to existed scheme by stimulating

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, While packagin GCompris-9 for sugar, it was decided to have sugar native toolbas for GCompris in sugar environment. So, instead of coding them in plain C, new project was initiated to port sugar-toolkit to Vala[1] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/toolkit At some point we can completely

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 05:33:28PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 17:30, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, While packagin GCompris-9 for sugar, it was decided to have sugar native toolbas for GCompris in sugar environment. So, instead of coding them

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:55:41AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, While packagin GCompris-9 for sugar, it was decided to have sugar native toolbas for GCompris in sugar environment. So, instead of coding

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, While packagin GCompris-9 for sugar, it was decided to have sugar native toolbas for GCompris in sugar environment. So, instead

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