Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Deja-Dup (duplicity) as a way to backup-restore Soas Mirabelle Home directory

2010-05-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ating bundles is here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/Activity_Bundles But I feel that backup/restore should be core Sugar functionality, not implemented as an activity. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ >From 5a83859a66d5fb55

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Deja-Dup (duplicity) as a way to backup-restore Soas Mirabelle Home directory

2010-05-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ted with the control panel or perhaps with the Journal (through menu items "Back up" and "Restore" directly on the device icon). -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] Paint: patch to #1015

2010-05-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 01:20 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard escribió: > Thank you. > Must I close the bugs? I think we first need to ask Manu to apply the patch in git. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarla

Re: [Sugar-devel] Paint: patch to #1015

2010-05-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
rrently maintaining Paint, perhaps we could orphan it so Gonzalo could take it over from now on. (Gonzalo, if you have no past experience working with Gitorious, meet me on #sugar for a quick walk-through). -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RFC PATCH v0 0/8] Journal sorting by file size and creation time.

2010-05-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
t view. > Call sort_by in the list view when sorting is selected in the toolbar. > Expandedentry: Try to use the filesize property. Tested-by: Bernie Innocenti >Andrés Ambrois (2): > Add ctime and timestamp properties to the index. > Add migration from DS v0 code for the

[Sugar-devel] Updating the VncLauncher activity

2010-05-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
containing the latest sources of this activity? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Fwd: [PATCH] use the spanish verb "quitar" for unmounting devices]

2010-05-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 12:30 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 23:07, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > In both cases, we need to make the strings distinct in the code. > > In C, I'd specify the context in which the string is used, like so: > > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
es and 0 regressions caused by switching to a new distro. Sugar 0.88 itself has some bugs, but is overall in a much better shape than Sugar 0.84 was when I've first seen it in January. So I'm quite optimist that we'll meet the August release date, especially if we get a little help

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
True, but it's much closer to it. I think staying close to upstream is an important step in lowering the barrier for collaboration between deployments and Sugar Labs. (besides this particular one, there are probably other significant barriers to collaboration; we'll try to discuss

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
27;s team of new and old Sugar hackers. So I think we have good reasons to be confident on the success of this development cycle. If other people come to help us out, it will happen even faster. Perhaps we'll even be able to include a few more of the contributions which have not yet been merged in

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
e beginning of the development cycle, of course. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 19-05-2010 a las 21:40 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > I'll probably change your mind this week-end when I'll show you how the > 0.88 build is coming along :-) Sorry to respond to myself. I realized that I may have sounded like an overconfident, pretentious jerk. (t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add icons to MANIFEST files

2010-05-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Unless we have imminent plans to make the MANIFEST actually do something useful anytime soon, I'd offer the following flamebait^W code simplification patch: From 07b6cc041fe9a0ecd798ec67e8d27728d33001e3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Bernie Innocenti Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 02:19:14

Re: [Sugar-devel] Co-maintaining labyrinth

2010-05-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Gary, we're adding Jorge Saldivar as a committer in Labyrinth. Unless you're opposed, we'd like to make him the current maintainer, too. El Mon, 19-04-2010 a las 14:46 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > Gary, have you gone MIA? :-) > > We really need to get these cha

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
little earlier. BTW, yesterday I had the impression to see *6* mesh icons in the neighbor view while testing Sugar 0.88. Does it ring any bells? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel m

Re: [Sugar-devel] New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 125 - control panel

2010-05-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
from jarabe.controlpanel.toolbar import SectionToolbar from jarabe import config _logger = logging.getLogger('ControlPanel') -_MAX_COLUMNS = 5 +_MAX_COLUMNS = 4 class ControlPanel(gtk.Window): __gtype_name__ = 'SugarControlPanel' -- 1.7.0.4 -- // Bernie In

Re: [Sugar-devel] Co-maintaining labyrinth

2010-05-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
> I'd rather just hand the whole thing over if Jorge will take > it – I'm more a lone wolf. Releasing, documenting, testing, > and fixing my own code changes is bad enough ;-) Thanks, I'll grant him permissions... -- // Bernie Innoce

Re: [Sugar-devel] Co-maintaining labyrinth

2010-05-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
SQL spells: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/gitorious#Change_project_owner -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlab

Re: [Sugar-devel] Co-maintaining labyrinth

2010-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
one manages RT, Sayamindu does Pootle (but I'm not sure whether he will still have time after moving to Boston). Several others are taking care of Local Labs, OLE and other satellite sites. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http

Re: [Sugar-devel] New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 125 - control panel

2010-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
not general enough. It only happens to work for the 1200x900 display used by the XO-1 and XO-1.5. It would break even there if we change the font size or translate to a language with longer words. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2010-05-20

2010-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ato If you want to be creative, stay in part a child, with the creativity and invention that characterizes children before they are deformed by adult society. --Jean Piaget -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ __

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] sugar-artwork: stricter compiler flags

2010-05-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 17-05-2010 a las 15:53 +0200, Benjamin Berg escribió: > That looks like a very good change. Thanks for the patch. > > Reviewed-by: Benjamin Berg Thanks, pushed. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 125 - control panel

2010-05-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
r view. * "Modem Configuration" could become a menu item of the GSM device * "Power" could become a single checkbox in the battery menu The control panel should really be for global system-wide settings. -- // Bernie Innocent

Re: [Sugar-devel] New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 125 - control panel

2010-05-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ures along with security updates, like Microsoft and Apple always do. Only, their "critical updates" sometimes happen to bring in new DRM schemes and stricter license enforcement ;-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ __

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] sugar-emulator: don't clobber DISPLAY until X server starts

2010-05-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
will fail because the DISPLAY environment variable has already been set to the value of the failed instance. The fix consists in simply delaying setting $DISPLAY until we're sure the X server is a good one. Signed-off-by: Bernie Innocenti --- src/jarabe/util/emulator.py |4 ++-- 1

[Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
x27;re going to coordinate with the fledgling Deployment Team to gather feedback directly from the field. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ Title: Deployment Team/Sugar-0.88 Notes - Sugar Labs Deployment

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ause it would mean loosing the August launch window. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
't have the habit of generating any of these inside tight loops. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
o try. The criteria for accepting the distro upgrade is the usual one: no known regressions relative to Fedora 11 + Sugar 0.88. (all bundled activities must work as well as before). -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/

[Sugar-devel] More Sugar 0.88 bugs to work on

2010-05-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
stop wrapping every non-native activities with things such as the "sugarize" script, which serves no useful purpose but to implement the non-standard startup protocol expected by Sugar. After the switch to Metacity, this would be another step towards proper integration of regular Linux a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Tecnologia] More Sugar 0.88 bugs to work on

2010-05-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
tuple with a task associated with an owner and a status. KISS! For complex bugs, we can still file tickets in the various upstream bug trackers and link them to the summary page. This approach doesn't scale very well, but we don't expect to manage more than 30-40 items during this cy

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
sn't matter that much... > Final remark: this patch names variables, methods, and classes in Spanish. > Anyone troubled by this? I think we should consistently use English everywhere, so developers don't have to learn 6 different languages to read a piece of Sugar code. --

[Sugar-devel] Activity updater

2010-05-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
im, though. Besides being very complex, it adds a dependency on bitfrost. A minimalistic backend for the current updater would be a lot more maintainable, imho. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ __

Re: [Sugar-devel] More Sugar 0.88 bugs to work on

2010-05-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Fri, 28-05-2010 a las 15:18 +1000, James Cameron escribió: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 09:17:11AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > >=== Bugs reported against os240 === > > >[ ] Alt-1 does not capture a screenshot > > It does for me! (os240py). Uh?!? How did you do

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Tecnologia] More Sugar 0.88 bugs to work on

2010-05-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
b in sugar-session 5) KeyHandler tries to grab alt-TAB, but fails 5) the shell receives the "window-manager-changed" event 6) the shell tells metacity to hand off alt-tab So it seems we could solve the issue by moving the initialization of the KeyHandler into setup_keyhandler_cb. -- //

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] os240py - collaboration over wireless

2010-05-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
View - that assigned the same IP address (on the new network) as was > > being shown (on that other system) on the 'Mesh' icon in Frame. > > > > Now, Activities were able to make use of this "new" network connection. > > I tested Chat-66 and Write-67. C

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-31 Thread Bernie Innocenti
e relevant upstream security updates would require some effort. Until someone offers to do this work, all we can do is bury our heads under the sand and pretend there's no problem :-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity updater

2010-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
n > any AMO UI elements. Indeed, that would make the microformat updater slightly more efficient and less invasive. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@li

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
hats one of the slowest I have seen this issue too. These are obviously fall-outs from the switch to Metacity. If debugging these issues turns out to take too much time, we could simply revert to matchbox for this release. Anyway, until we add support for non-sugar applications, there's no big

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
arted in a window, the pulsing icon was absent (also rare) > > sugar sometimes restarts; only seen 3 times, twice clicking on journal > and once deleting a journal entry Restart?? Wow. I wonder if we're making X11 crash. If you get this again, could you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity updater

2010-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ow) and > can start microformat work as well. Dude, you totally rule!! Let me know if you need help testing any of this work. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel ma

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Tecnologia] More Sugar 0.88 bugs to work on

2010-06-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 31-05-2010 a las 13:59 +1000, James Cameron escribió: > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:40:32PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > 6) the shell tells metacity to hand off alt-tab > > > > So it seems we could solve the issue by moving the initialization of th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Tecnologia] More Sugar 0.88 bugs to work on

2010-06-03 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 02-06-2010 a las 21:43 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: > Are you sure this isn't only on the emulator case? Oh, yeah... this is where I had seen it. And, sadly, there are no better alternatives to wait for X to come up. Even xinit resorts to polling with a short delay. -- /

Re: [Sugar-devel] review process changes

2010-06-03 Thread Bernie Innocenti
git pull --rebase git push Steps 5-6 can be carried on by anyone. git-send-email can be fine-tuned for maximum comfort. This is my global .gitconfig: ---cut--- [sendemail] chainreplyto = false from = Bernie Innocenti aliasesfile = /home/bernie/.gitaliases aliasfi

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-03 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sat, 29-05-2010 a las 19:19 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: > os240py > > font in Write is small and text does not fill the screen width Please, try editing /usr/bin/sugar to force SUGAR_SCALING=100. Does this change fix the bug? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] fix trivial typo in extension loading exception

2010-06-04 Thread Bernie Innocenti
some time to work on it next week, but feel free to beat me on time. This email summarizes the current status: - Mensaje reenviado ---- De: Tomeu Vizoso Para: Bernie Innocenti Cc: Sugar Devel , Fedora OLPC List , Peter Robinson , SoaS , Sebastian Dziallas Asunto: changes to the revi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Paint maintainer MIA?

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ng patches through this list to do some peer-reviewing before committing them to the repository. Who's gonna be the new project owner? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-de

Re: [Sugar-devel] [record] Fixes to the UI

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
.STATE_NORMAL, > > Constants.colorBlack.gColor ) > > great variable name that you inherited, there...might as well rename > it to something more standard like "buttonBox" while you're at it. Or maybe "button_box". CamelCase does not seem to be very fashiona

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
bs.org/images/e/ec/Screenshot_of_Browse_0s240py_.png Simon, Lucian, any idea what may be causing this? More importantly, is Browse really unmaintained at this time? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ _

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ugh, I have both uni and work, so > little free time. Perhaps we could get someone like Kenny or Anish to take over Browse. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mail

[Sugar-devel] Browse maintainer

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 08-06-2010 a las 12:17 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > > So many more bugs will crop up and some others will vanish. Not sure > > about maintenance after GSoC though, I have both uni and work, so > > little free time. > > Perhaps we could get someone like Ken

Re: [Sugar-devel] Paint maintainer MIA?

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 08-06-2010 a las 12:08 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard escribió: > My git user is godiard. Sascha added you to the mainline repo. Cheers! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-de

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Fixes to the record UI

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
t; > self.ui.recordButtonWd ) > > +buttonBox.set_size_request( self.ui.recordButtonWd, > > self.ui.recordButtonWd ) > > #self.button.set_border_width( UI.dim_INSET/2 ) > > self.button.show() > > > > -buttBox.modify_bg( gtk.STA

Re: [Sugar-devel] [record] Fixes to the UI

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
A Golden Rule of open source programmer is to never lump two of these together in the same patch: * bugfixes * new features * reindents * coding style fixes The best developers manage to do one atomic change per patch, but I've never reached this level of precision in my work, except for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems adapting activity

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
such and/or point people to the current versions. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] initial commit to git?

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
zarini, as seen in this (seemingly unresolved) thread (as > located by Dev): > http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg01655.html Ouch, you're right... can you please fix our wiki? If you have no time or don't know how to do it, just let me know and I&#

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Fixes to the record UI

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
at OLPC by interns, many of which had no previous experience working with Linux, GTK or Python. In that epic era we were using Fedora 6 or 7, sugar-toolkit was still being crafted and GStreamer was just a steaming pile of unstable code (yes some things never get old). -- // Bernie Innocenti -

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Record - Fix for ticket #2011

2010-06-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
_Interface_Guidelines -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] initial commit to git?

2010-06-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
(not even > ssh://gitori...@git.sugarlabs.org/~/sun-moon-music/mainline.git). Very odd... the two syntaxes for specifying ssh remotes should work the same. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-d

Re: [Sugar-devel] Inter-wiki integration example and opportunities

2010-06-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
at should we do on the Sugar Labs side to enable this? How many of the HIG pages do have content which applies both to OLPC and Sugar? If it's just one or two, I wouldn't bother... -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
owse is still the only hulahop user on this planet, so it's not like we need to keep it around for API compatibility. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ils to work altogether in other scenarios. Does anyone have any idea how it could be done in an event-driven way? I'm afraid I know nothing about XPCOM embedding. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://su

[Sugar-devel] GCompris packaging

2010-06-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
hould be done to make it more useful in the classroom: by subject? by age group? by curriculum? Educators can offer important input on this. Since I have very little insight on GCompris, I'll stay aside and follow the conversation. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/

Re: [Sugar-devel] review process changes

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
resending your patch until you obtain an ACK (or a NAK). Like in TCP, resending should be an exceptional case. If all patches routinely need to be resent multiple times, it means that we have insufficient reviewer bandwidth. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] fix trivial typo in extension loading exception

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ut the necessary amount of thought into it. So, yeah, I'd appreciate if James could kindly help out by writing down a draft based on our previous discussions. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ _

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
, to see what the reactions are. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] tuchpad revelde

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
tu XOs no están bloqueados, recomiendo probar el build paraguayo os 180. Es aquí: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/ -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing l

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
hs release cycle and keep it synchronized with the major Linux distros, like GNOME and other high-profile projects do. This does not imply that we cannot ever do very large restructuring of our codebase, if needed. This kind of work just needs to happen in a development trees and be merged when it&

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
nt reference counts to objects, breaking the sharing This are the very same reasons why the parent process approach was not buying us much. David Malcolm, the the maintainer of Python in Fedora, proposed a strategy which would, sadly, require changes to the on-disk pyc format: http://dmalc

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ach file format, making it very complex, slow and fragile. Whether a generic versioned filesystem could ever become feasible, remains a fascinating research subject for the next decade. Perhaps we could slightly enhance the current datastore design to store full copies of each version wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore rewrite

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
t; of them are changed. Sounds like a good approach, please ping me to review the spec when it's available. As an optimization to reduce the number of inodes and vfs syscalls, perhaps it might be worthwhile to let the activity specify whether it needs to store one file or a directory with mu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
t; that you will reach a really usable general DS ever. This is the same conclusion me and Sascha reached on IRC some time ago. To me, saying that activity authors will have to deal directly with the concept of deltas is equivalent to admitting that it can't be done at all. -- // Bernie Innoce

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-06-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
trained at ages 10 and more. I'm talking of kids in developed nations who are kids who are constantly exposed to technology, though. I'd let pedagogists tell us. (and any followup to this thread should probably be moved to iaep@ anyway). -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codew

[Sugar-devel] activity updater

2010-06-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
very easy to do. Alsroot and I discussed the possibility to add .xol support to ASLO. While we agree that ASLO isn't a very good fit for static content, we're going to support .xol for the utilitarian purpose of making the updater work in F11-0.88. -- // Bernie Innocenti

[Sugar-devel] Generating signed builds for Afghanistan

2010-06-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ned ahead of time so they have time to backup important activities to a USB stick. PS: I suggest you change your subscription to non-digest mode, as it makes very hard to follow threads and reply to others. Usually email clients can filter incoming mailing-list mail into separate folde

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Alerting users in case of write errors

2010-06-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
rs instead of red? Yeah, like this one: http://codewiz.org/wiki/$ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@li

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Alerting users in case of write errors

2010-06-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 14-06-2010 a las 10:06 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > Yeah, like this one: > > http://codewiz.org/wiki/$ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation If it wasn't sufficiently clear: ;-P -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity updater

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
by untested and possibly broken activities as they are released by the owners. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
d from /proc/meminfo and /proc/loadavg, like free(1) and uptime(1) do. Any further refinement could come later, if someone finds the time and motivation. If we come up with extravagant solutions now, chances are good that nobody will do it and we won't have anything in time for the next release.

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
and Jasg have been working with Esteban (Plan Ceibal) to cleanup and enhance backups. I'll merge their patches over the next few days to give them some exposure, even though we're still there are several opportunities for enhancement. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Su

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 19:13 -0400, Martin Abente escribió: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti > wrote: > > So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with > > a very basic chip icon, whose palette would display two gau

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
to find a php developer to help out implementing these features ASAP. Can we make them work in the activities-devel sandbox on sunjammer? > [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlab

Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
exact time or > reasons). Do any of the tigervnc* packages provide the same > functionality? Carlos created a new bundle with an updated libssl. It should already be available from ASLO. Carlos? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ __

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
query a public ntp server is a silly waste of bandwidth. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
em at random. > Ok -- that's a good initial guide - thanks! Let me know if you do some work in this direction, I'd be very interested in joining efforts. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
.88 Beta1? The deadline is Jun 25, but please don't send it to me the very last day. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http

Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 13:34 -0400, Carlos Daniel Garay Ayala escribió: > Is available on ASLO as activity VNCLauncher. I can't find it in the public list nor in the review queue. Can you try again? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugar

[Sugar-devel] R&D vs Product Support

2010-06-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ive solution available today, I think that we should rethink our project structure to minimize this tension. Ensuring that the proper design will eventually be implemented is as important as delivering a sufficiently polished product to our current user base. It seems that the two approaches should proce

[Sugar-devel] [Fwd: [PATCH] Add dpi font support]

2010-06-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
font_size_changed_callback, NULL, NULL, NULL); +gconf_client_notify_add(client, SUGAR_FONT_DPI_KEY, + (GConfClientNotifyFunc) + font_dpi_changed_callback, NULL, NULL, NULL); update_font(); +update_font_dpi();

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Set default accelerators for Copy and Paste buttons

2010-06-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
--- src/sugar/activity/widgets.py |2 ++ 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py b/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py index 83b689c..f89ac1f 100644 --- a/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py +++ b/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py @@ -108,6 +108,7 @@ class

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Use set_toolbar_box() in example code.

2010-06-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
The set_toolbox() method is obsolete, so let's not advertise it. Signed-off-by: Bernie Innocenti --- src/sugar/activity/widgets.py |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py b/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py index f89ac1f..8d

Re: [Sugar-devel] R&D vs Product Support

2010-06-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ly > revolutionary work. Truth is: most revolutionary changes don't pan out > (or cost 100x than initially expected). We want to find that out, > before they reach master. I'm also with you. Next step would be finding someone who would like to manage this new integration tree to agg

Re: [Sugar-devel] Borrar actividad de la lista de actividades

2010-06-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
nally* delete activities to make room for music, videos and games. This is the technological equivalent of a kid scribbling on a textbook or breaking the pencil. The solution may also be the same: ask children to take good care of their student tools. -- // Berni

Re: [Sugar-devel] R&D vs Product Support

2010-06-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
fixes and small urgent features to lower the quality of mainline repositories, perhaps we should think of creating separate stabilization branches. The worst possible scenario is the current one, in which important patches remain relatively inside custom distro packages. -- // Bernie Innocen

[Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption

2010-06-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
urnal" button somewhere? Where would you put it? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption

2010-06-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
e (some minutes), remove dirty flag and do sync on entirely fs > * expose sync ds method to make sync directly e.g. on Reboot button click To implement the dirty flag, we could recycle the index_updated flag file: we could remove it before performing any change and restore it when we're done

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] API documentation.

2010-06-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
it! Rather than using root, please create a group for the service and add admins to it. Do you need a virtual host for this service? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] R&D vs Product Support

2010-06-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
> But we all have experimental / controversial / not quite mergeable patches :-) I certainly have a bunch :-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Tecnologia] GCompris packaging

2010-06-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
office. You could also use one of Sascha's buildslaves, of course. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Proposal release management

2010-06-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
sive summary of pending patches. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

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