Re: [Sugar-devel] Remove the naming alert in 0.86

2009-09-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
That would mean I won't have to implement them for Etoys, which was still on my to do list? Yay! :) - Bert - On 02.09.2009, at 22:38, Art Hunkins wrote: +1 I think the alerts are a pain and an unwelcome interruption of a train of thought. Almost as much of a pain as Windows popups.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] turtle art: 2 instances, no?

2009-09-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 07.09.2009, at 17:45, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Bill, On 7 Sep 2009, at 12:09, Bill Kerr wrote: I can't see any way to load 2 instances on the SoaS version If I have a project loaded, saved and named Then go into

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] turtle art: 2 instances, no?

2009-09-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 07.09.2009, at 17:45, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: The problem with all this is that Sugar currently treats all versions you Keep from an activity as the same activity. You can only have one of the versions active at once,

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2279

2009-09-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2279.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-105.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2279-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-105.xo ==

[Sugar-devel] Window properties?

2009-09-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
When I run Etoys in a recent jhbuild, the shell does not recognize the Etoys window. It displays a gray circle in the frame instead, and after quitting Etoys, the launch icon is still blinking. I verified using xprop that the window properties are set correctly: _SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ID(STRING) =

Re: [Sugar-devel] Window properties?

2009-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.09.2009, at 09:40, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: When I run Etoys in a recent jhbuild, the shell does not recognize the Etoys window. It displays a gray circle in the frame instead, and after quitting Etoys

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2306

2009-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2306.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-106.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2306-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-106.xo ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] Window properties?

2009-09-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.09.2009, at 16:05, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 14.09.2009, at 09:40, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: When I run Etoys in a recent jhbuild, the shell does not recognize the Etoys window. It displays a gray circle

[Sugar-devel] Searching for datastore entries by title

2009-09-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I want to find a datastore entry with a specific title and mime_type. But it returns *all* entries with that mimetype instead. Here's the log: 1253058031.600170 DEBUG root: datastore.find dbus.Dictionary({dbus.String(u'mime_type'): dbus.String(u'application/ x-squeak-project'),

Re: [Sugar-devel] Searching for datastore entries by title

2009-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.09.2009, at 03:11, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Bert, On 16 Sep 2009, at 00:51, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I want to find a datastore entry with a specific title and mime_type. But it returns *all* entries with that mimetype instead. Here's the log: 1253058031.600170 DEBUG root

Re: [Sugar-devel] Searching for datastore entries by title

2009-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.09.2009, at 13:48, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:09, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 16.09.2009, at 03:11, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Bert, On 16 Sep 2009, at 00:51, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I want to find a datastore entry with a specific title

Re: [Sugar-devel] Searching for datastore entries by title

2009-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.09.2009, at 14:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Right now we only index what the journal needs, see the _PREFIX_ constants below: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-datastore/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/carquinyol/indexstore.py#line32 That's good info. Can you say in which version

Re: [Sugar-devel] Searching for datastore entries by title

2009-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.09.2009, at 14:40, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 14:22, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 16.09.2009, at 14:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Right now we only index what the journal needs, see the _PREFIX_ constants below: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2318

2009-09-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2318.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-107.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2318-1.noarch.rpm

[Sugar-devel] Spam on Trac

2009-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
They're getting better - this one almost had me worried it is an actual bug report. - Bert - Begin forwarded message: From: Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org Date: 23. September 2009 23:21:33 MESZ To: b...@freudenbergs.de Cc: b...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: #380

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2319

2009-09-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2319.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-108.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2319-1.noarch.rpm

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Activity version compatibility

2009-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(moving to devel list) I thought that's what host_version is for? - Bert - On 28.09.2009, at 02:40, Wade Brainerd wrote: Tentative patches posted to http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1442. An Alert when attempting to install the .xo bundle would be really nice, but this at least prevents

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2326

2009-10-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
We have a few things for Sugar 0.86.1: == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2326.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-109.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO ==

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2332

2009-10-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
A small update for Sugar 0.86.2: == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2332.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-110.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2332-1.noarch.rpm

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarcamp Bolzano 2009 [1]Register [2]Planning Meeting

2009-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.10.2009, at 19:34, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hey, [1] Register: As many of you know the next Sugarcamp will be from 7th to 13th November 2009 in Bolzano, Italy - http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/Sugarcamp_Bolzano_2009 . If you want to attend - please add your

Re: [Sugar-devel] MANIFEST experiments

2009-10-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.10.2009, at 13:44, Daniel Drake wrote: Today I ran a quick experiment on OLPC OS v8.2.1, based on the question: what are the activity MANIFEST files used for? I see sugar frequently complaining about MANIFEST inconsistencies in the logs, but I don't recall seeing it act on these

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2336

2009-10-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This release corresponds to the new Etoys 4 release available for non-Sugar environments at http://squeakland.org/download/ http://squeakland.org/download/releaseNotes.jsp This is intended to be the stable release for this school year. == Sources ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.11.2009, at 14:08, Martin Langhoff wrote: Not kidding, at least one of the bugs listed in SL's tracker about Journal Entry sharing would be fixed with the JEB-based approach I am proposing. And once the Journal can prepare a JEB, you just write it to the USB disk mountpoint. But (IIUC

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2337

2009-11-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This is a bug fix release fixing a performance regression on the XO: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9709 == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2337.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-112.tar.gz == Packaged for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Reminder please how to flash XO-1 NAND with soas05xo.iso

2009-11-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.11.2009, at 16:02, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Sean DALY wrote: I did manage to generate the .img and .crc files with the live-iso-t-xo.sh script, but after successful nand-copy of soas05xo.img the XO-1 does not boot, freezes at avatar with no dots :-( Sorry for the late reply. I was

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS v2 approaching RC state

2009-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.11.2009, at 23:07, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 24.11.2009, at 22:13, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi all, with the next SoaS release coming up really soon (final image is supposed to be composed this weekend, release date is Dec 8), there's a new snapshot

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins# [2]

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.11.2009, at 17:16, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.11.2009, at 19:17, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:08:53PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.11.2009, at 17:16, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by the activity version number. For example, activities that moved to the new toolbar design are not working for older releases 0.86. I don't think we can always

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.11.2009, at 20:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2339

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This is a bug fix release for the XO 1.5. Also suited for SoaS (if it's not too late for that). == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2339.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-113.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-11-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components Speaking of Etoys - that 0.86 page lists 4.0.2206, whereas the actual Etoys version in the 0.86 release was 4.0.2319 (and 4.0.2332 in 0.86.2). How come? Should I just change it, and if so, to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-12-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components Speaking of Etoys - that 0.86 page lists 4.0.2206, whereas the actual

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-12-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-12-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.12.2009, at 15:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

2009-12-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.12.2009, at 18:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 07:51:32AM +, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/12/1 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-12-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.11.2009, at 21:24, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 20:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2339

2009-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.12.2009, at 12:59, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/01/2009 01:53 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: This is a bug fix release for the XO 1.5. Also suited for SoaS (if it's not too late for that). etoys-4.0.2339 is as well the latest version that should go into 0.88? Yes. - Bert

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-12-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 14.12.2009 um 16:26 schrieb Aleksey Lim: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 01:23:47PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 01:42, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 04:38:56PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 21:24, Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.12.2009, at 15:57, Walter Bender wrote: Did you check to see if they are in the List View (a opposed to the Circle View)? IMHO a small but really helpful interface addition would be binding F3 in home view to switch between List view and regular view. - Bert -

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.12.2009, at 18:36, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 06:02:00PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: IMHO a small but really helpful interface addition would be binding F3 in home view to switch between List view and regular view. I would find that quite confusing. How about

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.12.2009, at 23:32, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:22 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:05:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 14.12.2009, at 18:36, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 06:02:00PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.12.2009, at 15:09, Daniel Drake wrote: I believe there are still various well-known 0.86 regressions (over 0.84). For example, Record not working. These regressions are going to be a huge headache to anyone who tries to upgrade, perhaps you could squash a few of those. Speaking of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
. That is Ben's activity, not mine: 2009/10/28 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Bert Freudenberg wrote: The Distribute activity would be your best bet I guess. Where is it? http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/Distribute-1.xo Distribute is the barest prototype of a sharing activity, designed

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANN: rainbow-0.8.6 release.

2009-12-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 22.12.2009, at 06:06, Michael Stone wrote: Friends, I am pleased to announce the release of rainbow-0.8.6. Rainbow implements portions of the isolation shell described in the Bitfrost threat model and security architecture. The key differences between this release and its predecessor

Re: [Sugar-devel] image-writer-mac, incompatible with earlier Mac OS X versions

2009-12-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.12.2009, at 23:39, James Cameron wrote: There's been some analysis of why image-writer-mac doesn't work so well on older Mac OS X versions ... you might be interested, Bert. Ah, great! The changes look okay, though I'd just remove the read-only check, that should make it work on both

Re: [Sugar-devel] image-writer-mac, incompatible with earlier Mac OS X versions

2009-12-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.12.2009, at 00:22, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:11:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: The changes look okay, though I'd just remove the read-only check, that should make it work on both Mac OS versions. Also since it appears to be set if an ISO-9660 filesystem

Re: [Sugar-devel] karma repo is huge!

2010-01-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.01.2010, at 10:17, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 08:11 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: Is there a way to remove select files from the index that are no longer in the working tree? I never used it, but try git-filter-branch should do the job: git filter-branch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys: toolbar

2010-01-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.01.2010, at 11:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, Some thoughts that came up today - I will turn into bugs or discard after feedback. Is there a reason the etoys save a copy (keep as) button is not colored like in other activities? The toolbar is using bitmapped icons, so

Re: [Sugar-devel] Several chapters of Make Your Own Sugar Activities! ready for review, feedback

2010-01-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.01.2010, at 20:50, Jim Simmons wrote: I too have not successfully simulated a mesh network. I have always used a test school server. It's a (common) misconception that you need a mesh or school server to collaborate under Sugar. The XO 1.5 doesn't even support (hardware-) mesh

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.01.2010, at 08:56, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 01/07/2010 05:19 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: When they resume a previous activity, and they wanted to start a new one, I have seen learners erasing the previous content and keep on working in that activity.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.01.2010, at 11:39, Gerald Ardito wrote: I am interested in this discussion. I am managing a deployment of 140 XOs/SOAS (mostly XOs) and this issue comes up a lot with the students. A couple of classrooms are just finishing a project with EToys and Resume was a big problem for us. In

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.01.2010, at 14:40, Gerald Ardito wrote: What additional Journal icon would you like to see in the Etoys toolbar? Insert pictures, drawings, and other Journal items. That button already exists in the Etoys toolbar. Since 3.0.2141 in fact, released in September 2008. So unless you use an

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.01.2010, at 15:41, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 05:39, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested in this discussion. I am managing a deployment of 140 XOs/SOAS (mostly XOs) and this issue comes up a lot with the students. A couple of classrooms are just

Re: [Sugar-devel] EToys Saving Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.01.2010, at 22:14, Gerald Ardito wrote: Bert, I have been working with students to create EToys projects. Two of them were working yesterday on their projects, which I saw. Their work was very good, and almost done. When they went to finish it today, yesterday's work was not in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.01.2010, at 18:12, Wade Brainerd wrote: My feeling regarding all this is that the problem is deeper than finding a way to Resume Latest or Start New from the home screen. IMO, the whole idea of Resume Latest is broken and needs to be ditched. The Journal is the place to resume

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.01.2010, at 21:34, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 01/11/2010 06:40 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 11.01.2010, at 18:12, Wade Brainerd wrote: My feeling regarding all this is that the problem is deeper than finding a way to Resume Latest or Start New from the home screen. IMO

Re: [Sugar-devel] Several chapters of Make Your Own Sugar Activities! ready for review, feedback

2010-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.01.2010, at 16:43, Jim Simmons wrote: http://objavi.flossmanuals.net/books/ActivitiesGuideSugar-en-2010.01.11-23.05.32.pdf Very nice, Jim! It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a Sugar activity should be written in Python. However, there are other means to go about that, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [POLL] collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.01.2010, at 16:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 22:00, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:15:46PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I personally like what Greg Smith did back at OLPC: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_requests does anyone

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking feedback on sketch of a new color selector

2010-01-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.01.2010, at 14:58, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi Walter, as far as I know there are no more design decisions to make for this Feature. I did raise a new question: should we eliminate the color selector

Re: [Sugar-devel] EToys Saving Problem

2010-01-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.01.2010, at 15:46, Gerald Ardito wrote: Bert, Thanks for this. I was able to find some lost EToys projects using your suggestion. I could use some help using copy-to-journal. I am getting an error about mimetype. What should I use? Thanks. Gerald For Etoys projects use

Re: [Sugar-devel] EToys Saving Problem

2010-01-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.01.2010, at 18:32, Gerald Ardito wrote: Bert, One more question, can you give me an example of a properly formed 'copy-to-journal' command? copy-to-journal -m application/x-squeak-project /path/to/project.pr - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] copy-to-journal

2010-01-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.01.2010, at 17:07, Gary C Martin wrote: On 15 Jan 2010, at 15:34, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Yes, it's maddening that copy-to-journal forces you to type that, when a simple call to gvfs-info (or its pythonesk

[Sugar-devel] Low-level Activity API

2010-01-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi folks, I just moved the documentation for how to write Sugar Activities in languages other than Python from the OLPC wiki to the Sugar Labs wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Low-level_Activity_API I need help though - there are quite a few broken links. For most of them I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Activities and Permission Errors

2010-01-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Actually it applies *only* to XOs running 0.82. No newer Sugar version has Rainbow, the security framework. Not SoaS, and not even the XO-1.5, sadly. - Bert - On 22.01.2010, at 18:27, Francis Xavier Fitzpatrick wrote: Great, I'll check it out. Does this apply to Sugar .82.1 too? As I said,

Re: [Sugar-devel] image-writer-mac, incompatible with earlier Mac OS X versions

2010-01-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.12.2009, at 00:57, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.12.2009, at 00:22, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:11:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: The changes look okay, though I'd just remove the read-only check, that should make it work on both Mac OS versions. Also

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration woes

2010-01-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.01.2010, at 17:31, Jim Simmons wrote: Last night I attempted to begin the chapter in my book on collaboration in Sugar. Some of my Activities do file transfers so I have had some experience with it before. It seems to me that setting up a test environment for collaboration has always

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Problem configuring font panel extension for sugar

2010-01-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.01.2010, at 12:48, Simon Schampijer wrote test -z /extensions/cpsection/fonts || /bin/mkdir -p /extensions/cpsection/fonts That should be test -d right? - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New color selector

2010-01-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.01.2010, at 08:04, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 02:54:14PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: I prefer http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/0.88_Meeting#static_rows_with_separated_fill.2Fstroke I like that one best as well. Me too. How about a circular layout? - Bert

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?

2010-02-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.02.2010, at 11:58, Behavior Vehikel wrote: How to start the Browse activity from my own activity? My Kandid activity can dump internal states as a HTML files. For example this information is written to ~/.sugar/default/net.sourceforge.kandid/tmp/_znuaxz_169/index.html Now I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?

2010-02-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.02.2010, at 13:39, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Activities are not allowed to directly start another activity. True. And yet, the Wikipedia activity starts Browse. It includes a copy of browse, doesn't it? - Bert

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?

2010-02-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.02.2010, at 14:20, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 01:41:26PM -0800, Bert Freudenberg wrote: It includes a copy of browse, doesn't it? It imports. In /home/olpc/Activities/Wikipedia.activity/activity.py: sys.path.append(/home/olpc/Activities/Browse.activity) import

Re: [Sugar-devel] Error during phase build of etoys

2010-02-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.02.2010, at 07:29, anirudh nair wrote: Hi, I was trying to build sugar using sugar-jhbuild. Etoys refused to build. The error message is posted below. I'm using fedora 11. Pls help me in figuring out the problem. *** Building etoys *** [19/32] make for dir in Content/po/* ;

Re: [Sugar-devel] Error during phase build of etoys

2010-02-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.02.2010, at 08:34, anirudh nair wrote: Are you sure there was no previous error? It sounds like the Content directory was not fully downloaded. Try removing the etoys dir and build again: rm -rf source/etoys ./sugar-jhbuild buildone etoys If that fails, please report its

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?

2010-02-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Ugh. I can't imagine that is an officially supported method. - Bert - On 03.02.2010, at 09:41, Jim Simmons wrote: Thomas, You should be able to create your web page as a Journal entry with the MIME type of text/html, then use code like that described here:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Packaging Queue

2010-02-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.02.2010, at 12:11, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi all, I'd like to take the chance to hint once more at our tracking bug [1], [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558617 This should also depend on #520294. - Bert - ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.87.4 Tarballs Due - UI Freeze

2010-02-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.02.2010, at 23:28, Simon Schampijer wrote: Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.87.4 unstable release [1] by the end of the 15th of February 2010 and announce them as explained at [2]. I sent the announcement 4 weeks ago, but just to make sure

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.87.4 Tarballs Due - UI Freeze

2010-02-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.02.2010, at 23:05, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 02/14/2010 09:41 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 13.02.2010, at 23:28, Simon Schampijer wrote: Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.87.4 unstable release [1] by the end of the 15th of February 2010

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.02.2010, at 18:12, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, I am teaching on a regular basis in the Planetarium pilot in Berlin, Germany [1]. I have been using Etoys now for several weeks and here is some first feedback. First: The kids do like it a lot! I want to encourage everyone to

Re: [Sugar-devel] universal reference to datastore objects

2010-03-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 03.03.2010, at 14:50, Walter Bender wrote: This topic comes up now and again (e.g., http://cscott.net/Publications/OLPC/ufrgs-talk.pdf). I raised it in the context of wanted to create SVG files with embedded image data. From #sugar: walterbender silbe: you are a DS/Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.03.2010, at 11:56, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong reason:

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Chapter in Make Your Own Sugar Activities needs review

2010-03-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.03.2010, at 04:04, James Simmons wrote: In the last version of the book I had some content on working with the Journal in the Adding Refinements chapter but it wasn't much and didn't belong there. After finishing Sugar Commander I felt that I had a good example to use for a whole

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Chapter in Make Your Own Sugar Activities needs review

2010-03-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.03.2010, at 22:26, James Simmons wrote: This PDF has the Fun With The Journal chapter updated using Bert Freudenberg's suggestions. I've updated Sugar Commander based on these suggestions and it works better than ever, and thanks to Bert I understand parts of my own code that were

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS 3 Activity list

2010-03-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.03.2010, at 12:51, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Having had some feedback on the proposal of shipping just 6 Activities for SoaS 3 I'm modifying the proposal a little and increasing the number to 10 [1]. Although this does come with some caveats and a challenge to those out there

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2340-2

2010-03-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This release only updates translations (de, hi, mn, ta, vi) == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2340-2.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-115.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Chapter in Make Your Own Sugar Activities needs review

2010-03-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.03.2010, at 00:23, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 01:21:01PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Since the signals necessary for [listening to data store updates] are not exposed in the higher-level datastore abstractions, you need to go down to the D-Bus level (lifted from

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Chapter in Make Your Own Sugar Activities needs review

2010-03-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.03.2010, at 16:46, James Simmons wrote: Bert and Sascha, In the book I'm trying to encourage practices that work in multiple versions of Sugar. I tried what Bert proposed last night and it worked fine, so that's what I'm going to write up in the book. The book is for beginners

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Chapter in Make Your Own Sugar Activities needs review

2010-03-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.03.2010, at 17:54, James Simmons wrote: Bert, Last night I fixed up Sugar Commander code by removing unneeded backslashes and adding logic to process Journal update callbacks. This code will be in Sugar Commander 3, which I will not release until I've lived with it for awhile.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Show file size in Journal

2010-04-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.04.2010, at 02:42, James Cameron wrote: I'd like to see file size described as a row of dots; quantity determined by logarithm to base 2 of size in bytes. ;-) If you want a logarithmic scale, use numbers. Those are logarithmic (though maybe base 10 would work better than 2). For a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Show file size in Journal

2010-04-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.04.2010, at 13:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 08:43:29PM -0300, Kenny Meyer wrote: Bernie and I have been discussing about showing the file size in Journal view of Sugar 0.84.x,

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Build squeakvm from tarball

2010-04-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This is overdue, but better late then never, right? I wanted to update the squeak module in jhbuild to use the just-release 4.0 tarball. This would get rid of the sometimes unreliable squeak subversion checkout. Patch attached, but it does not work. Yet. The module definition now contains a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Build squeakvm from tarball

2010-04-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.04.2010, at 01:53, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 01:36:19AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: The module definition now contains a patchfile (to add autogen support) but when running jhbuild buildone squeak, it does not seem to get applied. Quick reply (I'll have a more

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1488 UNSP: Add Freecell to Pootle

2010-04-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.04.2010, at 16:34, Carlo Falciola wrote: mmm, pootle still down, anyway it's not easy to understand whose among the 24000 circa strings of Etoys, are needed for freecell... If pootle allows to search for comments, they should all contain FreeCell. then if I found them, what should

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion, yet again

2010-04-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.04.2010, at 23:57, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, I think that's what we want; this new string will come up as untranslated in pootle, alerting translators to submit translations for the clearer string. Ah, that's fine. (I assumed we'd want to use the old translations in the meantime.)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion, yet again

2010-04-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 22.04.2010, at 01:39, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 07:27:44PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: No, sorry. The current prompt-on-quit is fine, as it only occurs when you stop a brand new activity instance. It basically asks do you want me to keep track of this thing in your

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.04.2010, at 20:29, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 20:12 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This change considerably speeds up building the default target. As discussed on sugar-devel@, Etoys developers don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.04.2010, at 20:53, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 08:37:53PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: How do I get into the workflow? I submitted an almost working patch asking for help, got helped, submitted a working one, but now it's sitting there: You already got it right

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS-3: Final Activity List - Attention needed!

2010-04-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.04.2010, at 21:16, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, So as it stands the final Activity list that we're pushing for SOAS-3 will be as below unless someone gives me reasonable doubt as to the release team's (Sebastian and myself) decision. So the final list is: - browse - physics -

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