Re: [Sugar-devel] maintenance of 0.84 branches

2009-11-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:45 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: We'll need that they make explicit which modules want to take maintenance of and then each current maintainer should agree or disagree. All of glucose, I guess. Right now we only have patches for sugar-toolkit and sugar. Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] maintenance of 0.84 branches

2009-11-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:53 +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:45 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: We'll need that they make explicit which modules want to take maintenance of and then each current maintainer should agree or disagree. All of glucose, I guess. Right now we only

Re: [Sugar-devel] libabiword with Nepaly bugs fixed?

2009-11-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 16:10 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi Daniel, cannot locate any libabiword-2.6.5-3 -- Did it ever happen? yes, it's in koji Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects(see [1] ml thread) feature but make it less invasive in case existed

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can be downloaded, copied, modified, and deleted.  In Sugar terminology,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: No, but perhaps we could take this opportunity to reduce this problem... When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle, we ought to display an alert with a scary icon.  The alert should clearly state that Journal entries will no

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/12/1 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one place. We are using the sugar control panel applet for activity updates as we have done before. So, the

[Sugar-devel] write compatibility

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Gary, Just wondering how much work you think it would be to do a new Write release that supports 0.82 - 0.88 I'm facing a focus-related bug for 0.84 which I think may warrant a new write release, and there is no namespace left in the versioning scheme. Daniel

[Sugar-devel] 0.84 maintenance

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Earlier this year, OLPC began developing a new laptop (XO-1.5) and OLPC OS (based on Fedora 11). Sugar-0.84 was hot off the presses at that time so even though it may feel a little dated today, it's what we've been working with and will soon be shipping in large quantity. One issue that

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.8

2009-12-02 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.8.tar.bz2 == News == * intro screen doesn't unfreeze dcon #1601 * font configuration through gconf #1584 * Journal list view: jumping back to first page when popping up a palette #1235 * Process non-ds object in

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.84.6

2009-12-02 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.6.tar.bz2 == News == * font configuration through gconf #1584 * multiple copies of activity opened upon resume #1276 * ObjectChooser displays USB media files, but fails to access file (datastore

[Sugar-devel] Removing Log and Terminal from favorites view

2009-12-04 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, For the OLPC builds we're removing Log and Terminal from the default favorites view. Is there any interest in making this change in upstream sugar too? The reasons being that these activities are confusing/useless for young children, but are left discoverable in the list view for older users

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issues with mesh network on XO 1.5

2009-12-04 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Mohit, On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 17:48 +0530, Mohit Taneja wrote: I did a little bit of testing on Mesh network today on XO 1.5. I tried connecting XO 1.5, with an XO-1, I was trying to collaborate the FoodForce2 activity, but it failed. But later i realized that they were not even able to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issues with mesh network on XO 1.5

2009-12-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 14:11 +1100, James Cameron wrote: For what it is worth, with two XO-1 running 802, and two XO-1.5 running os54, a network created by one of the os54 units does not show on the neighbourhood view of the two 802 units, though it does show on the other os54, and is included

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.84.7

2009-12-09 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.7.tar.bz2 Fix bold font style. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/12/14 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: That's what I had in mind. Plus, when you are already in home view, where nobody would normally press F3 again unless they know this trick, make it switch to list view. While we're on this topic: I included an idea regarding this behaviour in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:07 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: * as a 3rd party developer, I don't see such teachers requests listed somewhere on wiki, that let me see what can I do and peek most interesting/suitable-for-my-skils/etc task There's enough going around that you could work on which

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS vis-a-vis XO-1.0/1.5

2009-12-26 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/12/25 Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu: 1) Assumption: SoaS, for a variety of reasons, allows (even encourages) deployments and individual users to set different basic font sizes. I think this is desired but is not (currently) true. The versions of Sugar that are shipped by SoaS do not have a

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.84.8

2009-12-28 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.8.tar.bz2 == News == * set activity font settings earlier #1607 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.10

2010-01-03 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.10.tar.bz2 == News == * can't create ad-hoc network when name is 7+ characters #1604 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] write compatibility

2010-01-04 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:01 +, Gary C Martin wrote: I'm facing a focus-related bug for 0.84 which I think may warrant a new write release, and there is no namespace left in the versioning scheme. I'd be happy to put back in the old sugar toolbars (I've done this with Moon, Labyrinth,

[Sugar-devel] suggestions for additions to platform page

2010-01-05 Thread Daniel Drake
vte (and Python bindings) should be added (Terminal requires this) and it should be noted explicitly that python bindings for csound are required (Pippy and other activities use these) What's the process for making such changes? or am I allowed just to use common sense for once? :)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Fonts-configuration

2010-01-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2010/1/11 Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu: My code, given in full below, does this - for XO1/1.5, SoaS Strawberry, SoaS Blueberry (and hopefully future incarnations of Fedora SoaS), as well as potential future non-Fedora SoaSes. It works fine and has been tested on varying systems except for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Fonts-configuration

2010-01-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2010/1/11 Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu: So, is there a way to auto-fill *all size* displays (width-wise) just by using regular pango functionality and querying for width of screen? Yes. The Memorize activity does almost exactly this -- it renders text to fill a specific tile rather than the

[Sugar-devel] Keep confusion, again

2010-01-15 Thread Daniel Drake
I'm back in the field and I'm again seeing the same confusion about Keep: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-July/016375.html The computer-literate people who produce training materials misinterpret Keep as Save (i.e. if you don't click it your work is lost) and pass on this

[Sugar-devel] TuxPaint-3 corrupt

2010-01-18 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, The TuxPaint-3 activity on activities.sugarlabs.org is corrupt, it refuses to extract. It is also 25mb smaller than the version on the OLPC wiki. Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] Copy from paint broken with Rainbow

2010-02-01 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, There is a Sugar-0.82 regression in that you can't copy a selection from paint to the clipboard (using Paint's copy button). Reproduced on OLPC OS 8.2 with Paint-23. Disabling Rainbow solves the issue. At the point of failure, a broken icon is created in Sugar's clipboard tray and this

Re: [Sugar-devel] One More Font Display Question

2010-02-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 5 February 2010 15:52, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Can anyone explain why this is happening? (I assume ?? that the actual font, presumably DejaVu, has not changed.) I saw a discussion about Fedora enabling a different font rendering algorithm in freetype now that the patents on it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write 60 possible bug saving shared work

2010-02-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 February 2010 05:58, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: You are right, thanks for spotting it, would be nice to backport the fix to 0.84. But there is no space in the version number namespace to do another Write release for 0.84, unless the newer versions are made compatible :(

Re: [Sugar-devel] Automatically Retrying an AP?

2010-02-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On 4 February 2010 08:04, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list! We have a bug on 802/8.2.1 where in some cases (specific combination of WPA2 with certain AP chipsets) we fail to associate on the very first attempt, and then subsequent attempts succeed. This is an 8.2.1

Re: [Sugar-devel] journal (0.82) backup

2010-02-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On 11 February 2010 08:16, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Hi, I work with journal (0.82) backup. The idea is on jornal activity add button backup and restore. and then run the script. as a subprosses. may have a problem if I run script if the journal active ? I suspect it's

Re: [Sugar-devel] Font display revisited

2010-02-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 February 2010 17:04, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: This makes no sense whatever to me. It gives the developer little control over text display at all, with the possible exception of furnishing different code for each incarnation of SoaS. (This is what I'm currently doing - but I'd

Re: [Sugar-devel] Font display revisited

2010-02-22 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 February 2010 03:13, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: You may want to ask in the soas ml, but in 0.88 we are going to make it easier to users to change the default font size, so apps shouldn't make any assumptions based on a fixed value for that. But, in the few cases where it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Width of the TitleEntry widget

2010-03-12 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 March 2010 02:35, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I don't think this is the right way to fix the problem.  It will work for only as long as the fonts don't change again. Agreed. I also saw this problem but it magically went away before I could continue. But while I was looking at

Re: [Sugar-devel] logging activity

2010-03-17 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Wendy, Sorry for the delay in responding to your mail. On 10 March 2010 05:02, Wendy van Thiel wendyvanth...@gmail.com wrote: For a study, we would like to analyze what is actually done with the laptop (version os708). With the journal activity, it is possible to get the data store from

[Sugar-devel] Keep confusion, yet again

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Argh! Another country, another core team confused by the Keep button. The Argentinian in-house generated teaching materials say: (translated from Spanish) To save the work that you did in the activity, go to the toolbar at the top of the screen and click the Keep button. Same story every

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion, yet again

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 April 2010 09:41, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: For now I am going to update the Spanish translation to say Guardia copia (Keep a copy) but this is not the solution... Meant to write Guardar copia. Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion, yet again

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 21 April 2010 18:48, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Jorge,   - self.props.tooltip = _('Keep')   + self.props.tooltip = _('Keep a copy') I think this will break translations. I think that's what we want; this new string will come up as untranslated in pootle, alerting translators

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for shutdown/reboot

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 21 April 2010 19:07, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17:14AM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: Since I've run into the same issue before (i.e. with HAL), I suppose the default is the same but the OLPC builds explicitly configure HAL to allow shutdowns even for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove the keep button from the default activity toolbar

2010-04-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On 23 April 2010 15:02, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: I like the proposal of renaming Keep to Copy and placing it in the palette of the Stop button. I was a bit worried about it getting confused with the clipboard action of the same name, but making it a secondary

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 3/4] fix AP association failure after removing encryption #1674

2010-04-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 April 2010 23:01, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: The name has multiple purposes in Sugar and Network Manager interaction: 1.  it identifies a connection (and Sugar was using it to identify an essid instead, before this patch), 2.  it appears in Network Manager logs, 3.  it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 3/4] fix AP association failure after removing encryption #1674

2010-04-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 April 2010 22:35, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Yes, but the additional work might delay a solution.  Do you have a patch? No, but you're already knee deep, it would be trivial for you to do this. And breaking compatibility is something that needs extra attention. It can't be

[Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Using VncLauncher-4 on F11: it fails to start the VNC server because the binary links against the wrong version of libssl. This activity is used very often in deployments for presentations, training sessions, etc, so it would be nice to have a new version. Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Experimental work... updated.

2010-04-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On 28 April 2010 11:57, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: You couldn't find logs of the failure because olpc-dm is redirecting stdout and stderr to /dev/null. I don't think this is true. Fortunately, olpc-utils rebuilds easily on the XO as soon as its builddep, ConsoleKit-devel, is

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO QA process

2010-04-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On 29 April 2010 09:46, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I liked your proposal of creating per-deployment collections to manage a set of activities that has been tested and approved. I think this is one of the things Uruguay wanted. If we decided to go this path, what would be

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO QA process

2010-04-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On 29 April 2010 18:22, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: This is easily done by tuning Squid to cache large files if they have .xo extensions. The update panel only does one uncachable query to ASLO. Not quite: 1. squid still makes the outgoing request to the upstream server, to

[Sugar-devel] please remove mirrors.rit.edu from ASLO rotation

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, We're behind on building an OLPC OS image for Argentina and now that we're finally ready with the team here ready to do the reflasing, I can't make the build because http://mirrors.rit.edu is down. This seems to be the mirror used by ASLO about 75% of the time that I make requests. :( Can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Download experimental without beeing logged in

2010-05-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 11 May 2010 05:52, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: These issues can't be solved within current ASLO (and current deployment scheme, only .xo bundles). But we can remove, inherited from AMO, practice when user should be logged in to download not public activities. To me it seems

Re: [Sugar-devel] Updating the VncLauncher activity

2010-05-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 May 2010 16:56, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello Rinda, due to changes in libssl, VncLauncher-4 needs to be updated for recent versions of Fedora and other Linux distros. It would be good if we could take the opportunity to upload the updated bundle to ASLO and migrate

[Sugar-devel] 3G Support backport, solved method name clash

2010-05-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Sayamindu, In your 0.84 backport of the GSM patch you included a patch (7dc6edb3c7b6bda731367cff4775789cc1cfb312) which made a few naming changes and so on. Just curious, why was this necessary? The Ceibal developers are futher developing the 3G support and this divergance is a bit of a pain

[Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Daniel Drake
A few months ago I finished off getting the OLPC mesh working again in Networkmanager and Tomeu finished off the work on the Sugar side. It's present in master and presumably 0.88. However, it hasn't been backported to 0.84 (I thought it had, but was mistaken). Anyone looking for a very valuable

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 May 2010 20:45, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Why not shift the XO-1 users and deployments onto 0.88? You're talking about a huge amount of work here, with only a small amount of community resources working directly on XO1. And we've already seen a handful of issues on the list

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC mesh support in Sugar-0.84

2010-05-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On 20 May 2010 02:53, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Wed, 19-05-2010 a las 21:40 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: I'll probably change your mind this week-end when I'll show you how the 0.88 build is coming along :-) Sorry to respond to myself. I realized that I may have

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 May 2010 18:12, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: That's not entirely true. The was no changes in CPU support from F-12 to F-13. What has happened was a change in gcc which causes issues with F-13 on geode processors. There's a bit missing from gcc for geode support that would

[Sugar-devel] Really cool developments with SoaS v3

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Drake
There have been some nice little changes in various parts of SugarLabs recently which make me happy to see that core contributors are really thinking about sugar sustainability and sugar in the field, but I think we've all just been blown out of the water with 4 really great things about the new

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH][record] Fixes to the UI

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 June 2010 15:54, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: At least for myself, I'd like to see more detail here -- how was it broken? Sure. The record UI consists of many windows/widgets. In a particular mode or view, it displays and resizes the widgets appropriate for that view

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Fixes to the record UI

2010-06-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On 8 June 2010 13:52, anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: Fix description: The patch works by hiding or resizing (to size 1px by 1px) the widgets not required in a particular view/mode. The updateVideoComponents method has been modified to hide the widgets not required in a particular view.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Fixes to the record UI

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel Drake
On 8 June 2010 23:25, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I did reply to your mail earlier today, I'll paste my comments here ... Still unanswered questions from my last mail: There was probably a reason why it moved them off screen instead of hiding them. Do you have any

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Fix broken mesh support

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Fix broken mesh support not a good summary line On 9 June 2010 15:35, Martin Abente mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: Fix the multiple mesh icons problem in the meshview not a good description of the problem either nor why the existing code was broken The patch looks good otherwise (I'm only

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Record: disable Best quality video on XO-1.5

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel Drake
On 9 June 2010 16:22, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: G'dayi Daniel, In our engineering meeting we decided to ship with the Best quality disabled until we could fix it properly.  The following patch is tested on XO-1.5 with build os125. I'd rather just remove this option altogether,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems adapting activity

2010-06-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On 11 June 2010 08:43, Alberto Arruda de Oliveira alberto.a.o...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the log my activity generated. 1276255872.662322 WARNING root: Bundle Blocos: invalid entry in MANIFEST: COPYING 1276255872.664506 WARNING root: Bundle Blocos: MANIFEST includes itself: MANIFEST aviso!

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 June 2010 04:27, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? The biggest practical downside will be that Sugar 0.90 will only run on next-cycle distros (Fedora 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 June 2010 05:04, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: It has been mentioned that by updating these dependencies, we'll have to build some more modules in jhbuild for distros such as Debian which won't have it for now in their current versions and that this will raise

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 June 2010 10:59, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: My view: don't let it hold back. Make the change, hack jhbuild, and put pressure on them to push the package updates. If somebody else volunteers to maintain a sugar-jhbuild that replaces major libraries shipped by

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 June 2010 12:20, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org No, they're my problem because I develop Sugar on Debian systems. Can you afford to leave me behind? Is it worth the advantage of being able to use introspection (or whatever other bleeding edge technology that requires

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion -- round N+1

2010-06-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On 23 June 2010 15:49, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Continuing on the tradition of Keep confusion, yet again thread http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-April/023440.html I was yesterday in a conf call with the Perú team, who had been working with teachers

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing 'share' option from activites that don't know how to share

2010-06-25 Thread Daniel Drake
Here is the list - Implode (No comparte en ninguna version) - Paint (No comparte en ninguna version) - Labyrinth - Flipsticks - Cuerpo Humano - English for Fun - JigsawPuzzle (no comparte en version 0.84 pero si en 0.82) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Make initial DCON unfreeze conditional on the presence of a DCON.

2010-06-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On 27 June 2010 11:21, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Does anyone use (or is going to use) OHM with Sugar 0.88? If not, we should just throw out this code - powerd doesn't provide the OHM API. powerd could implement it trivially, and should. (with a simple binary using

Re: [Sugar-devel] Async schoolserver registration for F11-0.88

2010-07-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 July 2010 18:00, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Martin, while you're working on adding the Re-register button in the Network control panel, would you have time to work on updating, integrating and testing the auto-registration patch attached to this ticket?  

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Tecnologia] Async schoolserver registration for F11-0.88

2010-07-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 July 2010 20:07, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: What's the attack vector you're thinking about? Playing dirty tricks with DHCP and DNS on the LAN? Sadly true for many clients in many LANs... Child connects to a network, perhaps just to go online outside of school. The network

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel Drake
On 3 July 2010 16:52, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I checked: olpc-update-query only sets the clock if it's off by more than 24hours, so it cannot serve as a replacement for ntpdate. What's the requirement for super-accurate clocks on the XO? Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 July 2010 10:10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Laptops with anti-theft enabled can get the time from the OATS server when it's off by more than 24 hours. Unlocked laptops don't have a way to synchronize the time at all. All we need to fix it is a trivial shell script. Why

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 July 2010 15:03, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Well, granting root access from the console already weakens it to the point of being useless. Who would bother to setup a fake DHCP, DNS and NTP server when it takes 20 seconds to crack it from the console? :-) Right. So with

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] hide OLPC mesh icon in frame when mesh is not being used

2010-07-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, In http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2086, Simon raised the question: Do we want to hide the OLPC mesh icon (which currently appears all the time in the frame, if you're running an XO-1) when we are not connected to the mesh? Daniel ___ Sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] opportunity for faster load time

2010-07-12 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, (Disclaimer: this is on sugar-0.84) As I was in the area I decided to measure how long it takes for sugar to iterate over the favourite activities and put them in the favourites view, as it does every time it starts. I was a bit surprised to see the result: between 1.6 and 1.8 seconds,

Re: [Sugar-devel] opportunity for faster load time

2010-07-12 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 July 2010 12:13, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: There may be a patch waiting to be backported about this. That would be nice. Although you may be thinking of the similar 0.82 issue causing the shell service to take ges to start, due to the checking of all the manifest files.

[Sugar-devel] behaviour of F-keys on XO HS

2010-07-15 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, On the XO HS (highschool edition, the one with a more normal keyboard) we're facing some questions about how the F keys should function, under sugar and GNOME. The technicalities are in http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10213 and here is a picture of the keyboard:

Re: [Sugar-devel] behaviour of F-keys on XO HS

2010-07-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On 15 July 2010 18:26, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Presumably there is a way to detect which keyboard is installed in the machine? While I love Gonzalo's use of the F5-F8 keys, the need for Frame and Journal keys on the non-membrane keyboards is more important in my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Restart

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 July 2010 06:25, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: People in Paraguay complained for the removal of the Restart function from Sugar 0.88:  http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/ticket/672 I suspect it's just natural user resistance to any UI change, so I asked for rationale. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Restart

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 July 2010 16:50, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Fri, 16-07-2010 a las 15:33 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió: There was a discussion on sugar-devel before that ticket was opened, the changes had support from various deployments and other people. Which deployments requested

Re: [Sugar-devel] HELP REQUEST: Record activity developers / gstream experts

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 21 July 2010 04:25, Joseph Gordon agordon...@me.com wrote: That is what im thinking, but i realy like the way record looks and feels. I plan to make a Microscope activity, but want to use as much of the record nuts and bolts as possible because of how seamless its sharing is. The way you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hosting for Content Bundles?

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On 23 July 2010 15:00, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Discussing content bundles, I just noticed that there are no content bundles in ASLO. Last time I checked, ASLO didn't support content bundles, but I think someone volunteered to code it. Not sure if that has happened.

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity record translate

2010-07-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On 26 July 2010 16:59, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: hi, Can you translate for the Cronometro and Duración combo values, the words seconds and minutes to spanish on activity Record. and add tilde on word Cronometro (-- Cronómetro) There was a problem with pootle but it has

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Problem with Pippy layout on =0.84

2010-07-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On 29 July 2010 23:37, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to get an opinion on what should be the best way around this. When I detect an old version, should I create a new 'Actions' toolbar with the the run, stop (different from Activity-stop) and clear buttons[3], or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Problem with Pippy layout on =0.84

2010-07-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On 30 July 2010 10:59, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: I think you should revert to the original design. I agree that 'hiding' the action buttons away in a toolbar is rather unfortunate :-( , but wouldn't placing buttons as in the original layout eat up vertical space? No more

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Problem with Pippy layout on =0.84

2010-07-30 Thread Daniel Drake
BTW, I'm not exactly sure what kind of changes you are envisioning, but I would suggest that you keep the focus on simplicity. That's the beauty of Pippy as it is now. For more advanced development tools there have been designs and implementations of other activities in the past, such as Develop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Record Activity (audio)

2010-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 August 2010 21:17, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Again, is anyone actively working on Record audio to get it to be more reliable? Yes, I am frequently fixing bugs in Record. There aren't any open bugs that I know of other than UI issues on sugar versions newer than 0.84. The latest

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.19

2010-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 August 2010 07:03, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I recommend using the 'release' script in sugar-tools. I'm not 100% sure it works as-is for non-HEAD, though. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-tools Yeah, I'm using that, thanks. It works well but it does not push the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] not uninstall when a .xo bundle is deleted from the journal (was Re: Journal and Updating Software Process)

2010-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 August 2010 08:20, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: long time ago we decided that when an activity bundle was removed from the journal, it should also be uninstalled. There's a report from Uruguay about teachers not expecting this and considering it a bug. Regardless of user

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.21

2010-08-03 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.21.tar.bz2 fixes http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10266 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.22

2010-08-04 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.22.tar.bz2 == News == * logging cleanup failure prevents session start #1720 == Test cases == #1720 Fill disk or change ownership of .sugar/default/logs to prevent write by user, then start session. Expected

Re: [Sugar-devel] touchpad mode selection

2010-08-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 August 2010 07:10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: the more i think about it, the more i think that's a good idea. what do other people (who, hopefully have tried both modes) think? I agree. (Haven't tried it personally, but Walter gave me a quick demo) Daniel

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.84.12

2010-08-09 Thread Daniel Drake
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.12.tar.bz2 Create activity profile directory if it doesn't exist, fixes http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10218 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Class vs. Exec activity.info

2010-08-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 August 2010 09:30, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: sorry for the confusion. I was quite confident that those fields were not in use anymore :/ I reverted the commit and added a warning that is printed when used. Whats the motivation for removing the field? To me, naming a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Deleting Activity directory when deleting Activity bundle

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 30 July 2010 13:41, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: A 'Confirm erase' alert dialog appears that asks if you want to permanently erase the Activity (bundle). It provides a negative 'Keep' and positive 'Erase' button. For the proposed patch, to prevent the unwitting loss of Activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design]Control Panel max_column value

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 August 2010 13:21, u...@dev.seeta.in wrote: I request you that if you have a better solution for this problem then please let me know. In another discussion on this bug, it seemed like we had reached agreement that the core part of the issue was that the text that acts as a label for an

Re: [Sugar-devel] flickering mouse in an activity on an xo

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On 29 August 2010 08:55, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote: Unfortunately, I have encountered a problem when I run a very basic test activity on an XO1-5: the mouse pointer flickers whenever a sprite is animated. This is because we are using software cursor on XO-1.5. It's to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.1.2384

2010-08-31 Thread Daniel Drake
On 30 August 2010 03:50, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: This is the first beta release of Etoys 4.1. The biggest change is that stopping the Etoys activity will no longer save to the Journal. To save, you will have to press the keep button. The octagonal stop button is

Re: [Sugar-devel] examples of .xol activity bundles?

2010-09-03 Thread Daniel Drake
On 31 August 2010 09:41, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote: Are there examples of .xol activity bundles being used in activities other than browse?  I would be interested in seeing how they can be used to bundle content other than resources meant for display by web browsers. Related,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new ticket (http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2292) to get some discussions started on what changes need to be made to Sugar to work well in an environment where multiple users will work

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