[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--unaccountably working

2009-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have not made any changes to my sugar-jhbuild for several days. However, I installed the Ubuntu Sugar packages in order to have _something_ to use. Now sugar-jhbuild mostly works. In particular, I am delighted with the new TurtleArt. I can put further bug reports into Trac, and not bother this

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:07:01PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set? This is getting rather interesting (i.e. very strange). Indeed. How exactly did you

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 02:01:11PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: 1. Ensure no RPATH has been set on libraries used by sugar-jhbuild; see [1] for instructions. Check. Strange. From the error message

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--missing autogen.sh

2009-03-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:03:41AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: /bin/sh: ./autogen.sh: not found I guess this was with the old copy of sugar-jhbuild? Yes. No problem compiling with the Sugar Labs git

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
So I switched to sugarlabs for git, and I put aside Walter's greatly out-of-date xsession instructions, and I started fresh. Sugar-jhbuild downloads, checks out, and compiles with no evident issues. But whether I run ./sugar-jhbuild run or ./sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator I get Could not

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
I confirmed that accessing this directory in a browser gives 404 Not Found. http://www.sugarlabs.org/~marco/jhbuild/ I can see http://dev.laptop.org/~marco/ but that doesn't help. So...Where's pyabiword? ^_^ *** error during stage checkout of pyabiword: ## Error running wget

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Edward, you seem to have a very old version of sugar-jhbuild. in .git/config, it points to git.sugarlabs.org or still to dev.laptop.org? Ah. I'll start fresh. Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:55, Edward

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--missing autogen.sh

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
During ./sugar-jhbuild build, *** Configuring calculate *** [33/39] ./autogen.sh --prefix /home/mokurai/dev/sugar-jhbuild/sugar-jhbuild/install --libdir '${exec_prefix}/lib64' /bin/sh: ./autogen.sh: not found *** error during stage configure of calculate: ## Error running ./autogen.sh

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Edward, you seem to have a very old version of sugar-jhbuild. in .git/config, it points to git.sugarlabs.org or still to dev.laptop.org? Ah

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Possibly I have a hint, though not at this point a clue. ^_^ That misspelled error message root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?) is in matchbox code. http://mlblog.osdir.com/handhelds.matchbox/2003-04/txtCzBE9NwYUV.txt On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin echer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non-US non-XO keyboard (Was: 7 Meilen Stiefel or New Soas-2 image available)

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Simon, I have read the thread but it seems to apply to XOs only My Acer Aspire One has a French azerty keyboard and boots up SoaS-1 and SoaS-2, but I can't find a way for it to see the French keyboard :-( The

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
I had sugar-jhbuild running until somebody told me it would conflict with the Ubuntu Sugar packages. I uninstalled the packages, and now sugar-jhbuild hangs on startup. Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! unrecognised device identifier! (EE)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration for museum project

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose would like to create an exhibit of XOs and invite school classes in with their teachers. This depends

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:19:33AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: 1237918544.817512 STARTUP: Starting the shell moku...@mokurai-laptop:~/dev/jhbuild/sugar-jhbuild$ XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource

[Sugar-devel] Phonology (was Re: Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.)

2009-03-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Satya, I seem to remember reading that most of the world's languages draw from a pool of only 50-60 phonemes. This turns out not to be the case. Individual languages commonly have that many. English by itself has

[Sugar-devel] Collaboration for museum project

2009-03-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose would like to create an exhibit of XOs and invite school classes in with their teachers. This depends on how well we can get collaboration working. I have had many failures with mesh networking, and have not tried a school server. How is that going? We

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.

2009-03-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:46 PM, satya komaragiri satya.komarag...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am a final year student from India. I wish to apply to GSoC this year by building upon my current work. I had discussed the feasibility and advantages of having Speech Recognition for an OLPC +1

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-03-17

2009-03-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/3/17 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:48:20AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Meanwhile, Sasche Silbe is working on keeping Sugar on Ubuntu up to date. Just for clarification: I'm working on getting sugar-jhbuild to work on Ubuntu Jaunty and Debian

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] SugarPlatform-0.84.0 o n Caixa Mágica the Magellan project

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: The Sugar Platform is a set of versioned components on which activity authors can rely when targeting their activities to run on a particular Sugar version [1]. On Mag it lives in task-sugar meta-package [2] and

[Sugar-devel] Another Linux in education

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Here is another needed port of Sugar. http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6 The Kerala IT Education Department believes that sharing is an important virtue. However, sharing proprietary software would be a violation of the End User. Building collaboration and sharing practices are essential

Re: [Sugar-devel] Access to multiple repos in SugarLabs gitorious

2009-03-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc writes: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote:     I'm familiar with the Pootle OLPC server but my understanding was that     the gitorious page

Re: [Sugar-devel] Quick run through of Activities on Soas2-200903061846

2009-03-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi folks, I wanted to get an idea for what Activities are actually currently working in a reasonable condition, here's a quick run through using the latest SoaS F11 build – Tomorrow I'll do the same with a recent F11

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New Sugar on a Stick image available

2009-02-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Weeeh! A new Soas-1 is out. It contains all the bug fixes that made it into head in the last days. And you can use Wade Brainerd's fabulous Typing Turtle to get you going in 10 finger typing - /me won already a Gold

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ton van Overbeek tvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. Anybody else seen this ? This is true in several versions of Sugar, including Ubuntu packages. Jonas Smedegård has made a patch for it, available from

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint?

2009-02-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Is anybody going to PyCon? We have booth space and could use coders and mentors for the sprints. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint? To: Jacob Kaplan-Moss ja

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] Turtle Art Portfolio v-7

2009-02-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I pushed a new version of the Portfolio tool (See http://sugarlabs.org/wiki/images/e/e6/TurtleArtPortfolio-7.xo). It has a number of improvements over the previous versions, including: * fixing a bug that prevented

[Sugar-devel] Open Animal Crossing project

2009-02-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Would anybody here be interested in joining the nascent Open Animal Crossing project? http://code.google.com/p/openanimalcrossing/ AC in its four is one of the few cooperative family games. It has an oversimplified economy and environment that is appropriate for teaching many basic concepts, as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Education on the XO

2009-01-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: Bryan has started a very interesting discussion about what is needed for the XO to support education. I would like to add my two cents worth. We are learning (gaining new experience) every day that we are alive. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-29

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
In addition to the essential ideas discussed below, we need to have a discussion of skill, and the appropriate kinds of practice for achieving it. We have ample proof that reading cannot be taught simply as a classroom subject. Those who catch the reading bug, and read all sorts of things that no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO (was: Re: [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II)

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing *practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type. That said, there are typing programs out there that could work. I just wanted to make a nice

Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art fork idea (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-23)

2008-12-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:30, Edward Cherlin wrote: I proposed separately making a TA tile set with icons rather than names, but I don't know if anybody has picked up the idea. I proposed a design, which just needs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Hilaire Fernandes learning system

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: from walter's sugar digest: 6. Hilaire Fernandes, who brought us DrGeo, has a href=http://www.istoa.net;a new project/a underway: Thank you. This is excellent. :I am working on a learning system written in Smalltalk. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Voting Activity?

2008-12-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
welcome. Sebastian 2008/12/15 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: Source code for the Open Voting Consortium demo conducted at Linux World Expo in August is available in a git repository. See http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p61 I would like to make this available for use in school

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