[Sugar-devel] TurtleArt problems in Ubuntu

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/turtleart/+bug/731133 TurtleArt 98.1, as packaged for Ubuntu, is missing essential files and cannot start. Who is responsible for this package? -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Womeninfreesoftware] [x-post] Fwd: pseudo-summer of code (paid)

2011-05-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: ॥ स्वक्ष ॥ v...@svaksha.com Date: Sat, May 21, 2011 at 01:45 Subject: [Womeninfreesoftware] [x-post] Fwd: pseudo-summer of code (paid) To: Discussion re: increasing women's participation in free software womeninfreesoftw...@gnu.org,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSOC proposal]Language Primer

2010-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
Learning languages is an essential part of the mission, so I am glad to see your proposal. You don't explain how you intend to teach grammar and usage. Can you tell us more? Will you include practice on speech sounds and intonation? 我在英国学中国话. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 03:04, Zhang Yao

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Sur] Presidente Chavez, com putadoras para niños

2010-04-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Does anybody here know about this Lemote computer from Quanta, and its version of Debian? Venezuela is ordering lots of them. Is anybody working on getting Sugar on it? -- Forwarded message -- From: Luis Galindo llwwwl...@gmail.com Date: 2010/4/1 Subject: Re: [Sur] Presidente

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Chapter in Make Your Own Sugar Activities needs review

2010-03-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 16:26, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: This PDF has the Fun With The Journal chapter updated using Bert Freudenberg's suggestions.  I've updated Sugar Commander based on these suggestions and it works better than ever, and thanks to Bert I understand parts of my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Porting a game to Sugar

2010-03-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
Check out Make Your Own Sugar Activities!, which is currently being written and edited. Let us know if you find any errors or omissions. http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar/Introduction On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 14:19, John I. Gakos gakos.ioan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, i need

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Double clicks

2010-03-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 07:39, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 10:27:37AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: But looks like sugar doesn't use double clicks somewhere, was it done

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

2010-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
Not just kids. I had to do my own detective work in order to send Walter a set of TA sessions for various lessons. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 13:08, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: The other day during an infrastructure meeting, Walter brought up some thought on how to enable kids to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-83

2010-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thanks. Can we have a While or Until block? Also, prefix logic blocks? Both would greatly simplify certain kinds of program. Also, how about reading the color under the Turtle? On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 07:57, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I have a new refactored version of Turtle

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
learn how to do it. Thanks again. Gerald On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 19:14, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: Edward, This is very helpful. Thanks. My pleasure. I have lots more of this sort of thing in draft

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
Excellent post. We need lots more like it to give us real-world information on children's learning issues. I am documenting these problems in [[The Undiscoverable]], and working on a guide for teachers to introduce and reinforce whatever children have trouble with. It has been on hold during my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 05:39, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested in this discussion. I am managing a deployment of 140 XOs/SOAS (mostly XOs) and this issue comes up a lot with the students. A couple of classrooms are just finishing a project with EToys and Resume was a big

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Development

2009-12-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 13:50, Mark Symmonds msymmo...@codegladiator.com wrote: Hello! Welcome! I am a freelance developer and LAMP architect with over twelve years experience.  I would like to get involved in the OLPC development project where my skills may be of best use.  Please let me

Re: [Sugar-devel] Religious/Spiritual Text

2009-12-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:45, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: It has recently been suggested to me that the religious/spiritual text in my OurMusic and OurMusicMC activities may not be well received by some, and that the text may hinder chances for deployment and even potentially cause

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 06:09, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:07 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: * as a 3rd party developer, I don't see such teachers requests listed   somewhere on wiki, that let me see what can I do and peek most  

Re: [Sugar-devel] discovering open clip art library

2009-12-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:12, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: The describtion of their dms is also so short that I'm not sure what to make of it? there are a lot of notes farther down the page

Re: [Sugar-devel] OT: Thesis: OLPC Evaluation with Usability Engineering

2009-11-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
This is wonderful. I have been tackling the problem of Usability from a different direction, Discoverability, as you can see on my Wiki page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable. I am in the middle of greatly extending that study. I am also, unfortunately, in the middle of moving from

Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing changes (was Re: RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good)

2009-11-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Nobody has taken up my offer, so it is now dormant until I hear otherwise. I did not intend my suggestions to replace whatever is needed in the meantime. As I said, don't take anything personally. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:14, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: 2009/11/5 Edward Cherlin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting

2009-10-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie erick.lav...@gmail.com wrote: As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-SF] Sugar packages for Karmic

2009-10-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
If you keep good notes, I will turn them into better documentation than we have now. I have been distressed by the lack of working Ubuntu Sugar packages for the last six months. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 17:58, Grant Bowman grant...@gmail.com wrote: This is great news!  David Farning at Sugar Labs

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm extracting some of the for [[The Undiscoverable]]. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello, Michael just passed by the

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO emulator for Linux

2009-10-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Walther Neuper neu...@ist.tugraz.at wrote: Hi Tomeu, thank you for your mail ! You ask: Can you give us some more details about what do you plan to develop and how do you expect it to be deployed? Christoph Derndorfer established a project in Austria, where

Re: [Sugar-devel] #606 UNSP: SoaS includes lots of fonts that don't work in Write (Soas2-200903211320)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
The fonts in your list that render as tiny letters that all overprint are mainly fixed-size bitmap console fonts that should not be used in a GUI. I don't understand why Lucida Typewriter would have a problem, nor do I understand why only one Lucida font is inclueded in SOAS. The Lucida family of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote: As for swap, if you are repurposing discarded machines on any kind of scale you are going to end up with non-functional machines which are a great source of parts.  Strip the RAM from the dead machines and upgrade the

[Sugar-devel] Development Bank seminar (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-09-16)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, Your report from the meeting from Washington is inspiring. Particularly, the what are we waiting for. +1 As you know, I am in the process of documenting similar outcomes as part of a doctoral study for a

[Sugar-devel] Negative press (was Re: Sugar Digest 2009-09-11)

2009-09-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Oh, don't fret. How about the good, even overenthusiastic, press (off by one on the version)? ;- XO 2.5 out Fudzilla This newest laptop from OLPC features the VIA C7-M a 1GHz variable speed processor, which can manage full screen video playback, offering faster etoys and and scratch animation,

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109 functions provided, with good results so far. Although there are functions I could wish for, the only real deficiency I have found is in the documentation. I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
again for taking time to work with SocialCalc so we can help provide this functionality around the world through this platform. -DanB Edward Cherlin wrote: I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-09-03

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest === 1. The car allowance rebate system (CARS), more commonly known as the “Cash for Clunkers” program, was used to bail out the US auto industry. People who had purchased gas guzzlers were rewarded

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I downloaded SocialCalc from the Activities subdomain to the journal, where it installed and ran with no difficulty. I will give it some serious testing soon. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Manusheel Guptam...@laptop.org wrote: Dear community members, We are preparing for the next release of

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/8/29 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Ok, so the idea is to focus our resources on the distribution level? I'm not very fond of that because: - polishing a distribution is _lots_ of work. Canonical, Novell, Redhat, etc. are putting lots of resources into there. I think that a small

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
I am in personal contact with Stallman (rms) on this. Who else here knows him? We have met several times at computing events, and discussed other questions in e-mail. I was a factor in his choice of the XO as his main computer, which unfortunately lasted only a short time, because he was unaware

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Who's interested in testing a new installer for SoaS?

2009-08-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
I can test in several distros in VirtualBox. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: Hi everybody, I'm looking for some volunteers to test the hard disk installation with the latest SoaS snapshot and newly designed installer. Since this upstream project is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: Let me know how I can help! Likewise. Thanks, CAroline On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the Deployment

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The first step, from the implementation, side is going back to the basics; focusing on easy technical bugs and easy usability bug.  The goal is establishing respect and trust between the deployment team and the

Re: [Sugar-devel] What is your favorite application for use in CS classes?

2009-08-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
1) I am currently working on CS, math, and science lessons for primary school classes based on Turtle Art in Sugar education software, originally for the OLPC XO but now available for multiple versions of Linux. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Greg Smithgregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I posted the full notes here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy#Class_notes Thanks. Three high level points: - Kids have no trouble finding new activities (e.g. Write) and they want to have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity as regular objects proposal

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/7/28 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: The problems that 0.84 has in case of activity versions are: * it can't upgrade activities if they were pre-installed from  native packages; it makes process of upgrading

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Greg Smithgregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Thanks for the comments and follow up! Addressing two points below from two of your responses: 1 - Name in Journal of file saved from browse I may have mixed two issues. This one is not tagging. The work flow

Re: [Sugar-devel] New activity Graph

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Xenofon Papadopoulosxpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have added a new activity I'm working on to the git repository, name is Graph, it is plotting graphs of 1st and 2nd degree polynomials. Have you seen the plot() function in Calculate? It can plot a wide range of

[Sugar-devel] Cannot resume/install .xo bundles in Journal

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
The Wiki entry http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_Activity#Installing_activities says .xo bundles that are downloaded from the Browse activity are stored in the Journal. By resuming the activity from the Journal entry will both launch it and install it on the taskbar. However, Resume does not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cannot resume/install .xo bundles in Journal

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:19:52AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: The Wiki entry http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_Activity#Installing_activities says .xo bundles that are downloaded from the Browse activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Duplication of Effort: Don't do it.

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have lately seen a lot of duplication of effort in Sugar.  I think this is bad.  The success of Sugar demands discipline and careful planning from its

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
If those who know where things are and how things work are willing, we can create proper Sugar API documentation. I'll help. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Ton van Overbeektvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Luke Faraonel...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Actually, I see Sugar API documentation at http://api.sugarlabs.org/ including Module dbus_helpers. Does this help? On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: If those who know where things are and how things work are willing, we can create proper Sugar API

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:54, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: There are serious bugs in language switching in My Settings (the Sugar Control Panel). Would be better to track each of these issues in individual

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
Your supposition turns out to be incorrect. (below) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Sayamindu Dasguptasayami...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:54, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: There are

[Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
There are serious bugs in language switching in My Settings (the Sugar Control Panel). One is that switching to a language can result in bits of some other language appearing, and switching back does not necessarily restore the original language entirely. I have attached a portion of a screen

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, One of lacks that sugar environment has is simple way to share sugar objects for broad audience i.e. like scratch community has[1] (thanks to davidmorris form #sugar). Yes, teachers and content developers need

[Sugar-devel] Empty HTML from Turtle Art

2009-07-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have tried saving to HTML in several versions of Turtle Art up through 51, but have gotten only HTML files with empty bodies. body /body Is the code there? -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-54

2009-07-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Sugar Labs Activitiesactivit...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Url: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Release notes: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027#release-notes There is nothing in the Release Notes. Version 54 — July 13, 2009 — 3,330 KB What

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: One comment re Write toolbars: there are numerous reports from the field that we don't support bulleted lists, et al. I think the pull-down menu on the style tab is not discoverable (in fact pulldown menus in general

Re: [Sugar-devel] Nobody understands Keep

2009-07-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 05:41, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 10:45 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:52:23AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: Nobody in the world seems to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar as desktop os

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: I am looking into implenting sugar for a Montessori school. Maria would be so pleased. +1 Where is your school? Is there a Sugar/XO user group nearby? The current plan is to start with 10 to 20 (depending on budget) computers for a group of about

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems running Sugar under Jaunty (9.04)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Frederick Grosefgr...@gmail.com wrote: A new entry today on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Ubuntu: (from) Neil Mayhew 16:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC) I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting: gconftool-2 -s

[Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: We're located in Haiti. Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization started. Sorry I left that off. And before anyone asks :-) we're not part of the pilot that was scheduled to begin in Haiti last year. I briefly worked with them. As

Re: [Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: Did the laptops get distributed first? If not, where are they? No the laptops were not distributed as far as I know. As to where they are, the information is not public so I don't know. Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The next Step: v2 Roadmap

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: Hi everybody, so here it is, the Sugar on a Stick v2 Roadmap: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap#Roadmap Feedback is appreciated, and as we've just entered brainstorming phase, please go ahead

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jaunty up and running

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, James Michael DuPontjames.michael.dup...@flossk.org wrote: Sascha, It build and installed all according to the instructions. I dont have this all here at the moment as I said. If you have any questions, you can see my build snapshot, that contains everything.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: Wishlist: show files by size filter or option? If the Uruguay experience is any indicator, a fact of life

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm expecting you all to invent Linux groups any minute now. ^_^ On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 20:13, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Tomeu, On 28 Jun 2009, at 09:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: We have about 60 characters worth of blank

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
Oh, Michael, you're in trouble now. ^_^ You risk reinventing the data-centric Ontology in an Object-Oriented Programming form. This is one of the worst sinks for time and mental energy that I know of. It saps the will, because soon users become obsessed with making the map match the territory,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Flossmanuals?

2009-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm a bit skeptical about using flossmanuals for co-writing and translating Sugar's documentation. What are the real benefits over a simple wiki? The documentation on the OLPC and SugarLabs Wikis is barely usable for

[Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Several SoaS betas were made available as .vdi files suitable for use in VirtualBox. Can we get Strawberry in this form? Or can somebody tell me how to create one? -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
know how it goes. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox Thanks, Caroline On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Several SoaS betas were made available as .vdi files suitable for use in VirtualBox. Can we get Strawberry in this form? Or can somebody tell

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Works fine on Virtualbox OSE on Ubuntu J. Thx everybody. I see several important improvements already. More testing tonight. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. Downloading now. I am on a FLOSS Manuals book sprint today, but I can report back

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: How do I get to upload a very nice VMware appliance to sunjammer?

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Somebody got a VDI working. We need to spread links around the Wiki on this. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox#Sugar_on_a_Stick http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-strawberry-vdi.zip On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Great! I was trying to

Re: [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch (3700 SoaS downloads yesterday) would be of interest to all Sugar Labs contributors, in particular those who worked so hard on it. Does anyone else feel it's too much

[Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters from the description field for each entry on the main page. We could also drop off the word Activity from every Activity name. I am going to create dozens of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Customizing a Master Stick

2009-06-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The user info is in .sugar/default/gconf/desktop/sugar/user Delete .sugar/default/gconf/desktop/sugar/user/%gconf.xml .sugar/default/gconf doesn't exist in the SoaS image I am using from May 3. -walter On Sun, Jun

[Sugar-devel] SVG problem workaround

2009-06-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
I rendered the offending tiles on my laptop, and copied them into the virtual image. So I can start posting lessons tomorrow, barring further interruptions. -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing streamlined sugar-jhbuild

2009-06-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Jonas Smedegaardd...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Bernie and others, [commenting since I was adressed personally] On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 06:46:25PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: we'd like to get the streamlined

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] learning implode...

2009-06-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
How about writing this up for OLPC News? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: My daughter, who is 3 years and 7 months old has largely stayed away from the XO (or for that matter computers in general) other than mimicking me by turning on the XO and giving our

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
Did you look at my Turtle Art version of Alan Kay's third-grade gravity lesson? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gravity.odt On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Brian Jordanbcjor...@gmail.com wrote: Attaching Sugar Devel (people who want to be involved with Physics development  might be on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I proposed for the speech-synthesis in Gsoc 09. My proposal can be viewed at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis As a first phase of my development, I have implemented the speech and karoke style

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaardd...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:46:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: A basic speech configuration

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal files on regular desktop

2009-06-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: About a hierarchical file browser in Sugar, I think we need it anyway for removable devices, but I'm not sure where we would put such a window and how it would look like. Regards, Tomeu I have been using the character

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] collaboration testing session

2009-06-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:09 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks,    We are having a collaborative sugar testing session next week Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm MST, and 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be 9 pm, 8 pm for the

[Sugar-devel] FM--DocBook (was Fwd: [FM Discuss] Fwd: Documentation ...)

2009-06-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
this but i believe there is some good stuff online about html-docbook transformations if you can write a shell script to do it then we can hack it in somehow adam On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:12 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: How hard would it be to get the FM software to generate Docbook XML? That would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: I did a fresh install of sugar-jhbuild. Likewise. ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck doesn't advertize the need for python-distutils-extra.  Recent bug reports about this: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/902

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:35:20AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: However, I had to invoke 'force checkout' several times, because of missing .git directories. Interesting. Where exactly? TurtleArt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com writes: You want 'setxkbmap fr'. It works!  Great, thanks. Is there something similar to .xsession where I could put this instruction, so that I don't need to run the script from

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the same situation (well, I will be when I get my macbook back). I do see a lot of talk towards making Sugar and activities behave more like standard applications. Perhaps Sugar will work on OS X natively

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in jaunty chroots... working today.

2009-05-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Hi folks, I just wanted to report a small victory: I worked out instructions at   http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Chroot which enabled me to run today's Ubuntu Jaunty sugar packages in a debootstrap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: As with any other sugar module, people want to run the latest code because it will contain bugfixes, etc. I see hulahop in the same way. As with any other module of anything, some people want to run Stable, some want

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
+1 overall. The Wiki recommends sugar-jhbuild as an environment for developers. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team Development systems All of core Sugar development except system-dependent modifications can be done on a standard computer by compiling jhbuild and editing with your

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] The eBook ah ha moment for Sugar on a Stick

2009-05-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
at 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] The eBook ah ha moment for Sugar on a Stick To: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Cc: iaep i...@lists.sugarlabs.org On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Add the Bible and Qur'an reader programs? Those should at least

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] How Can We Showcase Turtle Art Portfolio

2009-05-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello All, Would like commentary from the community on how we can try and showcase the abilities of Turtle art Portfolio We are hearing excellent reports from schools about how it impacts learning. I think we could get

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-11

2009-05-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
For many people, the easiest starting point for reporting tests of SoaS is on the Wiki, at the appropriate subpage of http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Getting_Involved, such as http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Getting_Involved/Testing/Soas-beta_20090423 Instructions for

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild error--compiles but fails to initialize

2009-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm going to keep on doing this every once in a while, but I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately, I can actually use the SoaS Beta in qemu. Ubuntu 9.04 $ ./sugar-jhbuild run [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! [config/dbus] couldn't take

[Sugar-devel] SoaS Beta (0.84) in qemu

2009-04-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
After I found that Turtle Art is broken in the latest SoaS image, I went back to the earlier beta and ran it in qemu. I now have what I need to start serious work on using Turtle Art to teach math. For anybody else who may be interested, here is one way to do it on Ubuntu Intrepid or Jaunty,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
-vesa version 1:2.0.0.1ubuntu6 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 02:34:21PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: o The culprit appears to be a security setting in config/dbus that prevents Xephyr from accessing the display

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Python 2.5  modules, but Python 2.6 is default in Jaunty's package which makes Browse not start. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-hulahop/+bug/364871 2009/4/27 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: I'm not clear on the nature of your problem. I have no difficulty running a SoaS image

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:50:37PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: So SoaS,  Jaunty packages, and sugar-jhbuild on Jaunty all fail in different ways. Not good. What versions of 0.84 actually work? SoaS works for me

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thank you. That makes much more sense now. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:32:34PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: I'm not clear on the nature of your problem. When running Ubuntu Jaunty _within_ KVM (i.e

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Resuming Snapshot Creation

2009-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi folks, after our most recent beta release, we've now a new image ready for you! This is the first of a number of snapshots on our road to another real SoaS release. Links to the iso image, as well as the archive

Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: upstream jhbuild migrated to new location

2009-04-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Hi! The upstream part of jhbuild has been migrated (by GNOME) to a new location, so if you've got a copy of sugar-jhbuild, you need to follow. I'm sure there's a proper git way to do it, but for now it's

[Sugar-devel] UCBLogo

2009-04-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
I see that UCBLogo is under GPL, and that there is a Sugarized version. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Project_Ideas#Logo_Activity There is a Sugarized Logo—UCB Logo—but it does not record data into the Journal or use the standard Sugar toolbar. There are two possible approaches

[Sugar-devel] Turtle Art in sugar-jhbuild--defaults to Spanish

2009-04-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
Why does TurtleArt in sugar-jhbuild default to Spanish? How do I change the language for TurtleArt? I have found the language-specific files in images, locale, and samples, and the place in turtleart.py that says to use the .es file, but there must be some other place that specifies Spanish,

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