Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread Marten Vijn
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 13:53 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 09:16 +0200, Marten Vijn escribió:
snip
 
 Increasing the number of mirrors would certainly not hurt us, but I'm
 not sure how beneficial it is unless we start pointing users at these
 mirrors.
 
 The most rudimentary way would be doing round-robin DNS on
 download.sugarlabs.org.  The next step would be delegating
 download.sugarlabs.org to smart nameservers with GeoIP and dynamic
 mirror add/removal based on monitoring.  But wouldn't this be a
 duplication of what services like Cacheboy and Mirrorbrain already do?
 

I don't  see roundrobin as a solution. (details below)

CacheBoy would be the solution if:
- one or more for could join cacheboy
- if/when cacheboy is open source

Since the mirror do have delta's in the path Mirrorbrain would the
current solution.


 We also have a namespace problem to address: last year, Marco convinced
 me to shorten the URL by scrapping the /sugar prefix.  This means that
 mirrors would now have to configure a virtual host for
 download.sugarlabs.org.  We could fix this by re-introducing /sugar and
 adding temporary compatibility aliases to the main server, but it
 wouldn't work for the mirrors.  What do you think?

It would not solve it.

http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://download2.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/sugarlabs/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Sugar/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://sugarlabs.cdn.cacheboy.net/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

so 3 out of 5 match, it does not look very promising when grow to more
mirrors. Thats why I like the CacheBoy solution.

cheers,
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[Sugar-devel] mirror testing request

2009-09-21 Thread Marten Vijn

Sorry for cross posting...

Before announcing it,

There is an testing request from Adrian Chadd from CacheBoy.net
whois providing these mirror's.

This mirror system had global mirror's! 

So please test these link:

http://sugarlabs.cdn.cacheboy.net/


And give mee feedback to me:
- how it performs
- your location/continent.

The mirror is added to the monitoring (http+emaillist)

http://martenvijn.nl/sugar_mirror.html


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[Sugar-devel] more mirrors

2009-09-21 Thread Marten Vijn
Hi,

Last saturday I (on EuroBSDcon) was talking with
folks for ISC. 

They be willing to mirror sugar as well.

Shall I start working on this?

Kind regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia

2009-09-21 Thread Marten Vijn
Hi Marilyn,

What would your feature list be on a small (linux driven) laptop 
in addition to mine?

- audiofeedback (hear what you type (per word basis))
- adapted lessons (multilanguage) for tipptrainer
http://freshmeat.net/projects/pingos_tipptrainer/ 
- may something thats enlarges the cursor area

and obviously:
- spelling checker (fix/highlight while typing)
- large font buttons

thanks,
Marten




On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 09:40 -0500, David Farning wrote:
 Marten,
 
 I would like to introduce you to Marilyn Hagle (CCed).  She is active
 at the intersection of dyslexia and technology based education tools.
 
 She has recently written a grant to set up a pilot for researching and
 using sugar as a platform for helping kids overcome or adapt to their
 dyslexia.
 
 david
 
 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 12:17 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
   On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average.
  
   idea 1
   Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people
   to let them hear what they (words not the characters).
   __^ type*
  
   *Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying
   not being capable to write normal emails without make errors.
   No patches seem to be availible.
  
   Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from
   school and waste of very creative talented kids.
  
   My son would have a  50% change of being born with it too. So having
   having a good educational toolset seems important.
 
  Wonder if we could involve on this an existing dyslexia organization?
 
  good idea.
 
  http://books.google.nl/books?id=pLvC1kKUWTkCpg=PA47lpg=PA47dq=audio
  +feedback
  +dyslexiasource=blots=iMn_I_8efusig=CQhPMzM15_twYh43WTSbKP6qbmMhl=nlei=DlO3Sru8KI_E-QavmsXcCQsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=5#v=onepageq=f=false
 
  http://www.springerlink.com/content/r33873h07n78j722/
 
 
 
  mmm,
  I 'll keep it on my list for dutch researchers. Not If I will to
  sucseed.
 
  I never know who am talking to tomorrow :)
 
  cheers,
  Marten
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Tomeu
 
   cheers
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[Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia

2009-09-16 Thread Marten Vijn
Hi,

I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average.

idea 1
Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people
to let them hear what they (words not the characters).

People made commerial software for and improved really
the performance of kids. 

idea 2
typetrainers (learning to type with 10 fingers)
tend to teach character by character . 
Teaching by words would be way better since people 
use the word image (not the character by character scanning)

idea 3
I combination of 1 and 2 maybe creates new use cases
in developed countrys like mine. 


A remix of speak (like a always on button) would do a major job I think


2ct 
Marten
  



 









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Re: [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia

2009-09-16 Thread Marten Vijn
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average.
 
 idea 1
 Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people
 to let them hear what they (words not the characters).
__^ type*

*Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying
not being capable to write normal emails without make errors. 
No patches seem to be availible. 

Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from
school and waste of very creative talented kids.

My son would have a  50% change of being born with it too. So having
having a good educational toolset seems important. 

cheers 
Marten
 

 
 
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC/Sugar on OpenCommunityCamp

2009-07-18 Thread Marten Vijn
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 21:37 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote:

Last news from occ http://opencommunitycamp.org/2009/?q=node/46

There will be no formal track in the evening program.

However during the day program there will enough time for sessions for
Sugar and OLPC related themes.

Kind regards,
Marten



 Dear All,
 
 Inspired by Lionel, I would like to make place for OLPC/Sugar on
 OpenCommunityCamp.
 
 The Camp will be from July 26th till 2nd August in the Netherlands (20
 from Schiphol Airport AMS)
 
 We can have 6 day's of work and fun together. 
  
 Since I am in facilitating in core organization, responsible for the
 evening program and other track and doing parts of the content
 (*BSD/XO-repairing).
 
 To have this working out I need the help of one or two people who can
 take a lead in the program.
 
 So get this working please let me know whether this is interesting. A no
 fine too and save me time. Ofcourse I do prefer a yes of some people.
 
 The current evening track has interesting talks already.
 
 During tree day's there is also a Drupal training.
 
 More info:
 http://opencommunitycamp.org
 
 evening track:
 http://opencommunitycamp.org/2009/?q=node/15
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] soas strawberry sha1sum?

2009-07-03 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 20:32 +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
 Sameer, in my experience sticks are not nearly as reliable as CDs in
 terms of loading a bootable image, apparently due to internal firmware
 and chip differences

sometimes zeroing the drive helps

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/drive bs=10M


kind regards,
Marten
 

 
 I believe Caroline was getting some failures even with identical make
  model sticks in the Nexcopy mass loader.
 
 Sean
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote:
  Sameer Verma wrote:
  I'm getting 41b08c93a65cc1e38286b9f8980f51528a36761d is this correct?
  I tried a usb stick, but keep getting bad or damaged partition at boot
  time.
 
  sameer
 
  Yup, it is: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/SHA1SUM
 
  Bad or damaged partition errors? Maybe your USB key is broken?
 
  You could try burning the .iso image to a CD to see if it works there...
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Marten Vijn
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:42 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 [adding sugar-devel again to CC]
 
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 14:36, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:49 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
  On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:34, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote:
cut
 
  Just copying files is unlikely to work. Regarding newer versions of
  Sugar working in the XO-1, I personally think it's very important and
  hope that others share this opinion
 
  I would love to see something an update kernel (OpenBSD) or mini-dist to
  roll out never version.
 
   and will contribute their time and
  skills to make it happen.
 
  Well I can help testing (or learn C, but that will take a while ;( )
 
 Well, for this task (shipping an updated or new distro for the XO)
 there's little need for programming skills, it's mostly a matter of
 having someone who leads the effort and recruits people to help with
 the various tasks, give publicity to the effort, keep track of the
 open issues in the different bug trackers involved, help with
 packaging, do integration testing, etc.

oke, from a side of a none developer, I would be good, a list of tasks
to:
- to do meself
- point people to

For me is hard to so see what is needed and to move to the right
direction. Knowing a bit from linux it is best to avoid dist-wars. 

I 'll check the wiki and look/create for a task list. IHMO tasks shoud
be:
- do-able (beginning / end / clear steps)
- supported by a person
- avoiding flames/wars whatever negative energie
- complexicity index.

Am I correct (by kind of consensus) that a tasklist would help?


 That's why people are barking at the wrong tree when they say that
 Sugar developers should port Sugar to whatever system. The skills
 involved are very different from upstream work and if coders are not
 coding we won't have anything new to ship.
  

If barking ever applies me to please let me know. My intention is to
have usable contributions to our project. 


Kind regards,
Marten






 Regards,
 
 Tomeu
 
  Marten
 
  Regards,
 
  Tomeu
 
   ps:
   If overwriting the old Sugar works on an XO-1 then an unzippable
   distribution what could be applied to 802 would be just fine...
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[Sugar-devel] introduction

2009-05-25 Thread Marten Vijn
Following http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved

1. User:Marten refers to me
2. my public_key is in User:Marten
3. I am on Activity Team/Contacts (I was not sure to me add meself)
4. For the people that don't know me yet

Hi I am Marten, I live in Leiden, The Netherland. I have a girlfiend,
two kids (2,5 and 4,7 years). I was a physiotherapist and occupational
therapist before became a unix and net sysadmin. I run a XO-repaering
service and organize a camp. I may have noticed my English brake every
comple of lines. I have dyslexia, pls try to read want I mean. (In a way
you lucky my Dutch is worse.)  

pls read more http://martenvijn.nl

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/TODO

From here as a non-developer I seem to really get lost.
To not scare non-tech people I would:
- move Community Task more up
- create 5 simple tasks than can do done repetitive: 
 - download,burn,boot,give feedback
 - hardware reports
 - documentation for BIOS in cd-rom and usbdrive 
 - reviewing Activities 
 - writing instruction-sets/PR-materials ?
 - Roadmaps for LocalSugarLabs (creating UserBase)

Can I shuffle a bit on the TODO list to make more easy for new coming
people?

cheers,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Dutch mirror

2009-05-22 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:30 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 00:12, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 17:50 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
  This is great work. Thanks.
 
  On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   I expect more mirror sites soon. So may we should have a mirror list on
   the wiki like:
  
   || full / limited || ftp/http || link || party ||
  
   Shall I create one ?
 
  Please do so.
 
  Here it is
 
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mirrors
 
 I see that http is also working for this mirror:
 
 http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/sugarlabs/soas/releases/
 
Fixed,

and and second mirror is added from NLUUG (prof unix group)

Marten




 Thanks,
 
 Tomeu
 
  Kind Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Usage scenarios for Sugar?

2009-05-22 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:03 +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
 Hi everyone, we have been contacted by a monthly tech publication in
 Europe willing to devote several pages to Sugar in their summer issue!
 
 More specifically, advising parents how to download  run SoaS and do
 educational stuff with their kids during the summer holidays.
 
 
 Off the top of my head I suggested a scenario where Memorize is
 customized with family photos, a Turtle Art lesson, ...
 
 Suggestions please!

- a custom image with a jabebr config for german-holyday-jabber-server
- feedb...@sugarlabs.org form
- cd image in the distribution
- collect holiday story's of kids in dailymotion / wiki
- German Language as default
- collect emailadresses for longterm support
- 3g support
- static version of dailymotion / german wikipedia on usb-drive
- photo/story contest.
- Having SugarCamp(ings) (Opencommunitycamp :) )

just 2ct,

Marten
 



 
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[Sugar-devel] Dutch mirror

2009-05-21 Thread Marten Vijn
Hi all,

A first mirror is live:

ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/sugarlabs/

as return favor this link

http://www.snt.utwente.nl/

should be mentioned on our site 

It sync every 24 hours, and have limited to 25G

Kind regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Dutch mirror

2009-05-21 Thread Marten Vijn
Hi All,

I expect more mirror sites soon. So may we should have a mirror list on
the wiki like:

|| full / limited || ftp/http || link || party ||

Shall I create one ?

thanks,
Marten


On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 22:57 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 A first mirror is live:
 
 ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/sugarlabs/
 
 as return favor this link
 
 http://www.snt.utwente.nl/
 
 should be mentioned on our site 
 
 It sync every 24 hours, and have limited to 25G
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Dutch mirror

2009-05-21 Thread Marten Vijn

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 17:50 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
 This is great work. Thanks.
 
 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I expect more mirror sites soon. So may we should have a mirror list on
  the wiki like:
 
  || full / limited || ftp/http || link || party ||
 
  Shall I create one ?
 
 Please do so.

Here it is

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mirrors

Kind Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

2009-05-20 Thread Marten Vijn
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:23 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 20:45, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 20:35 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
  me too, shall we take a practical approach and suggest some locations?
 
  My current focus in the Netherlands, preferable in Leiden if machine
  needs to be setup.
 
  If a have opportunities (aboard) I 'll let you know,
 
 I guess we should contact the organizations (universitites, telecoms,
 etc) that are already mirroring linux distros and other FOSS projects?

Yes,

currently on my list:
- university of twente
- nluug (proffessial unix user group)
- xs4all.nl (ISP)

These are already mirroing *BSD's / GNU-Linux's and more floss projects.

cheers Marten




 It may be a first contact that leads to other collaboration in the future.
 
 Regards,
 
 Tomeu
 
  cheers,
  Marten
 
 
 
  David (nubae) Van Assche
 
  On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
   On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:46 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
   On 05/19/09 13:51, Walter Bender wrote:
Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
infrastructure.
  
   Unfortunately, both the main download site and the mirror are located in
   Boston, so they're both going to be slow for people on the other side of
   the world.
  
   oke, I 'll am going to look European mirrors
  
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[Sugar-devel] OLPC/Sugar on OpenCommunityCamp

2009-05-20 Thread Marten Vijn
Dear All,

Inspired by Lionel, I would like to make place for OLPC/Sugar on
OpenCommunityCamp.

The Camp will be from July 26th till 2nd August in the Netherlands (20
from Schiphol Airport AMS)

We can have 6 day's of work and fun together. 
 
Since I am in facilitating in core organization, responsible for the
evening program and other track and doing parts of the content
(*BSD/XO-repairing).

To have this working out I need the help of one or two people who can
take a lead in the program.

So get this working please let me know whether this is interesting. A no
fine too and save me time. Ofcourse I do prefer a yes of some people.

The current evening track has interesting talks already.

During tree day's there is also a Drupal training.

More info:
http://opencommunitycamp.org

evening track:
http://opencommunitycamp.org/2009/?q=node/15

Thanks,
Marten
 

   

 


 







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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

2009-05-19 Thread Marten Vijn
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:46 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: 
 On 05/19/09 13:51, Walter Bender wrote:
  Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
  discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
  infrastructure.

 Unfortunately, both the main download site and the mirror are located in
 Boston, so they're both going to be slow for people on the other side of
 the world.

oke, I 'll am going to look European mirrors

Marten


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

2009-05-19 Thread Marten Vijn
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 20:35 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
 me too, shall we take a practical approach and suggest some locations?
 
My current focus in the Netherlands, preferable in Leiden if machine
needs to be setup. 

If a have opportunities (aboard) I 'll let you know,

cheers,
Marten 



 David (nubae) Van Assche
 
 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:46 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
  On 05/19/09 13:51, Walter Bender wrote:
   Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
   discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
   infrastructure.
 
  Unfortunately, both the main download site and the mirror are located in
  Boston, so they're both going to be slow for people on the other side of
  the world.
 
  oke, I 'll am going to look European mirrors
 
  Marten
 
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] sugar on a website

2009-05-18 Thread Marten Vijn
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 00:15 +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
 Marketers, check this out!

And IMHO also:
http://eyeos.com/

Marten


 Sean
 
 
 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
  The great team in paraguay have a new website, based on an interface
  you might recognise :)
  http://www.paraguayeduca.org/
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[Sugar-devel] soas2

2009-04-07 Thread Marten Vijn

hi,

When i make drives with:

Soas2-200904031934.iso
Soas2-200903131725.iso


Under ubunutu with livecd-iso-to-disk.sh

I get grub loading and end in een grey screen. Here the boot halts.

Reproducable with:
- qemu
- alix1c board
- EEE 701

Fidling a bit show a grub display, with crambled characters and a
warning password required.

This is probably the grub passwd.

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[Sugar-devel] sugar mini pc = was Re: administrator / user questions

2009-03-11 Thread Marten Vijn
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 13:50 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi Marten, nice to hear from you again.

 
 I see you sell a Sugar Mini Pc product, where can we know more about
 it? Is it intended for schools?
 
It is an Alix from pc enignes http://pceniges.ch 

It tested this one: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1d.htm

but this one will be tested soon also
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm


not really something special but it just works. I used the
install-incript to write a 2Gb cf-card (san-disk) with usb-cf adapter.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] administrator / user questions

2009-03-11 Thread Marten Vijn
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 13:50 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi Marten, nice to hear from you again.

Hi

cut
 
  My current project goal is 30 kids on a mediawiki using soas in
may-june
  2009.
 
 Cool, will this wiki be accessible from here?

http://80.126.246.197:8080/wiki/

but will be moved soon (from a dsl to 30Mbit fiber)


cheers Marten


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