Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-23 Thread Martin Dengler
First, what are the numbers: extrapolating from this N=1 sample, how many activities can be maintained by a very experienced python and Sugar developer? Regards Martin > On Jan 23, 2019, at 07:27, Dave Crossland wrote: > > James, are you soliciting SL pay you as a contractor to fix

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

2017-09-15 Thread Martin Dengler
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 14:13, Lionel Laské wrote: > > > +1 for the motion. > > @Martin, thanks to wait for all votes or at least the end of voting delay. Sure Lionel - what is the voting delay? I actually was waiting but the wiki had been updated already (not by me) so

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

2017-09-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:12:28AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Motion: To answer the questions posed by the SFC regarding the xo-computer icon as follows: (Q1) Why is the XO logo included in the sugar-artwork repo now -- and does the SLOBs want to keep it there? (A1) The xo-computer icon has

Re: [Sugar-devel] L-earning

2017-06-13 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:45:23AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 07:08:46PM -0600, Charles Cossé wrote: Motivation: I've discovered that using internet access as a currency results in effective learning. This will benefit inattentive or time-poor parents who would rather

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-12 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi Tony On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:29:16AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi Martin Certainly we can move on and consider how the design of Sugar can be improved. The keep button was valuable, but was somehow 'deprecated' as modern jargon has it. This was the reasoning (from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:52:10AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Regardless of the wording, the alert does not save a document until the user gives it a name. If the user does not care about the document enough to give it a name, there is probably a reason. For example, if I were to launch Paint

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-12 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi Sam, On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 08:59:55AM +1000, Sam Parkinson wrote: I think that the current implementation of the "Choose a name" alert is fine. It serves as a gentle reminder. If it were optional, that'd be fine. But then it would not achieve its goal of ensuring all Journal entries had

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:19:26PM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Dave On 07/11/2016 06:49 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 11:55, Tony Anderson > wrote: Name this project. Entry is computerize, refers to the widget. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-11 Thread Martin Dengler
e/2016 and the video on the "Save As" patch at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcvBH7zzFBo . Tony On 07/11/2016 04:56 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:44, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com <mailto:d...@lab6.com>> wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 1

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:10:13AM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 10:56, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> wrote: On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:44, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 10:40, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

2016-07-11 Thread Martin Dengler
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:44, Dave Crossland wrote: > > >> On 11 July 2016 at 10:40, Tony Anderson wrote: >> I prefer 'Untitled' as it supports the intent of the alert - to request the >> user to supply a title. > > I also prefer Untitled, although I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
Tony, > On 10 Jul 2016, at 16:34, Tony Anderson wrote: > > It is hard to describe 'Untitled' as an innovation since it is used by major > applications everywhere. There are many things that Sugar does differently than major applications everywhere. It was painful to

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 08:46:15PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: Sugar is basically a 10 year old technology. Sugar is not a technology. And the Sugar desktop's age is less than git, javascript, C, HTML, DNS, IPv6, and lots of other things. If there is one thing I'd wish for pedagogical

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 10:16:42AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:10 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: 2. there are missing desktop packages, which means we are taking on maintenance of those packages on CentOS, Having tried and failed to do this back when

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:21:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: OLPC already appears to be going the Ubuntu LTS route When/where can I read more about what OLPC is doing with Ubuntu LTS? Apologies for the lazyweb request. Martin pgpbjlO0YFNXV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar future (was Re: Re: [DESIGN] Single instance activities)

2013-04-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 07:06:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote: It is the lack of transparency that causes people to become disillusioned and leave the project. Sounds more like there aren't enough people writing code convincingly enough for the other people writing code. (Says the peanut

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar future

2013-04-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 03:48:00PM -0700, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [...] the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a compelling proposition. Sure, having some of them as apps on other platforms would be nice. But isn't collaborating and sharing at the heart of Sugar? The Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar future

2013-04-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:21:26AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far, particularly to Sean for his well researched post on Android developments. The choices as I understand: 0) Do not have an Android transition plan I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH Help v3] Migrated to Gtk3 and WebKit.WebView SL #3466

2012-04-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:15:22PM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: El día 25 de abril de 2012 12:43, Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com escribió: 2012/4/25 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: Both forms pass PEP8, but we use one import per line in Sugar.  Is a matter of style, that's all.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Article on Why files need to die

2011-07-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:54:40AM +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Please also see this article ( http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/06/08/new-pony/) which Tomeu Vizoso (one of the early Sugar developers) just shared on Google+, well worth a read! The article offers no solution that avoids

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Display build number at Name Page

2011-07-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 01:26:40PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: On 15 June 2011 16:01, Esteban Bordón ebor...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: This patch show the build number in the name page for first boot (see attached file). It's very useful to test the correct massive flashing for technical

Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?

2011-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 09:58:33PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: Please give datastore-fuse [1] a try. Besides Sugar it needs just python-fuse = 0.2. I've mentioned this project both on sugar-devel and on IRC several times, but got no feedback from anyone who tried it. datastore-fuse is great. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] A better participation

2011-02-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:07:31AM -0600, Yader Velásquez wrote: I would like to involve with more participation into the community. I'm just a teenager student, but I can learn. What do you suggest me to do? Just what you did: introduce yourself, maybe write some code, let people know you're

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

2010-11-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 05:55:14PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 at 09:32:53 +, Martin Dengler wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:06:56AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: P.S. - Later [...] we discovered a confusion about the mandate of the proposed committee; to wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

2010-11-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:42:42AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: But adding a bunch of developers to the design team will not help it accomplish its design goals. It might not. But it will a) help the lack of designers from impeding development progress; and b) help do no harm to the HIG /

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

2010-11-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 06:33:52PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 at 08:42:42 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: But adding a bunch of developers to the design team will not help it accomplish its design

[Sugar-devel] Eliminate Glucose co-maintainers

2010-11-21 Thread Martin Dengler
I propose we eliminate co-maintainers from Glucose[1] because they reduce the responsibility and pressure of a sole maintainer. Recall that the role of maintainer is: a) accept features [2] b) accept patches [3] c) make releases [4] Having more than one person making these decisions risks

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

2010-11-20 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:06:56AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: Martin and I talked for bit this evening and I believe that I managed to persuade him to support my [UI Dictator team] proposal. I do, for the reasons mentioned in Michael's key arguments. P.S. - Later [...] we discovered a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Engineering Team

2010-11-19 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 02:53:06AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, (Just trying to summarize previous discussions, including recent one on #sugar with some kind of motion) = The problem = [...] = Engineering Team [the solution] = [...] I'm not opposed to the discussion. While we

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-18 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:10:23PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: * Why the user should start an activity to know what is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-18 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:44:16PM -0200, Daniel Castelo wrote: Maybe we could group all the notifications that are repeated. Journal is Full... (X 3) Other Warning.. Other Warning (X2). Definitely. Could be useful show the date of the problem in the case of historical warnings. sort of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Feature Request added : Kill the Mute function by clicking on the speaker icon.

2010-11-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 05:38:14PM +0530, shan...@seeta.in wrote: From: Shanjit Singh Jajmann shan...@seeta.in Muting by clicking on the icon is killed. NAK. This functionality was requested by a deployment[1], AFAICS. Martin 1. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7730#comment:16

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH] Feature Request added : Kill the Mute function by clicking on the speaker icon.

2010-11-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:09:08AM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:19 +, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 05:38:14PM +0530, shan...@seeta.in wrote: From: Shanjit Singh Jajmann shan...@seeta.in Muting by clicking on the icon is killed. NAK

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH] Feature Request added : Kill the Mute function by clicking on the speaker icon.

2010-11-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 04:48:13PM +, Martin Dengler wrote: 4. run pylint / pep08 /tools on patch - Shanjit, please do this as in [1] Sorry, that should be [4], as I guess you figured out: 4. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_guidelines#Tools ...and please put the output

Re: [Sugar-devel] Coding style: line continuations

2010-11-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 03:27:15AM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: In general I would do what the spec says if there is no good reason not to [1]. The example they have does not really handle all the cases, though.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Coding style: line continuations

2010-11-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:39:50PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Sugar Labs Bugs's message of Wed Oct 27 11:11:49 UTC 2010: {{{ 249 self._shared_activity.connect('buddy-joined', 250 self._buddy_joined_cb) }}} In emacs I just use tab

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH] Copying files multiple times results in bogus names. (SL#2060)

2010-11-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:57:18PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Mhh, is sufficient with doing the split out of the while looks good Gonzalo Martin pgpomQQkzmzeP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

2010-11-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 12:27:18PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 at 03:12:41 +, Martin Dengler wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 07:49:19PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: [UX design might be better] if we agreed to delegate all design decisions to one clever dictator

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

2010-11-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 07:49:19PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 10:02 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: IMO a decent justification and a willingness to update the affected wiki pages - including the HIG - to a similar or better standard as what existed before should

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:07:29AM -0300, Martin Abente wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.comwrote: On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:02:28PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote: Hello amigos, Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide

Re: [Sugar-devel] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:05:16PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: Sure , we can work to get a combined patch but your patch still disables the animation in most of the icons I think you're talking about something else than my patch. No animation is disabled. Not sure what's wrong but the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:28:23AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: Again, thanks for this summary.  I think the thing to do is merge my patch for #2080 and then address the other issues.  I'll do that soon. If I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:49:01PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:05:16PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: Sure , we can work to get a combined patch but your patch still disables

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 01:46:27PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hmmm, no, with Martin's below linked patch pulse colour animation is good. The only extra thing I noted in my email was that the 1sec zoom effect is still not showing for anything by very simple icons (Log icon is simple

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 10:59:05PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: Then I may have misinterpreted Gary's comment.I apologize in that case. But when I tested Martin's patch on my XO-1.5 , 0.88.1 build , upon starting an activity the pulsing icon animation was replaced by a static grayscale

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:02:28PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote: Hello amigos, Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide notification-messages system is required as a basis for many bug fixes or enhancements. [...] Currently, Sugar does not have a mechanism to communicate to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:40:13PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I wonder how it will turn out this time, maybe we've finally moved past some of the old bugbears. This is exactly the core[one of not many, at least] problem of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I think we should let the kids customize their machines easily -- certainly to change the colors. Changing the colors is just editing /usr/share/themes/sugar-72/gtk-2.0/gtkrc in a safe and reasonably upgrade-friendly way, right?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 09:48:15PM +0430, Mike Dawson wrote: Hi, I guess the crux of the issue is the link between the developers (of whom some are working on deployments and dealing with features that are important to them) and the ground out in places like here. If we want to create

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:09:53AM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: Uptill now what we have gathered from this issue is: 1) We can improve this issue by using a cache system or cairo operation: I think the problem is the code is rendering the svg icon every time the color is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:51:35PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: The same (potentially complex) SVG is being rendered in 2 tones, many times. This is nonsense. Render it once to a B/W grayscale raster. Then use/abuse whatever cairo bitblit blend operators. [...] Maybe I am making wild

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v3] Reduction in the time taken for loading of the menu (SL#1169)

2010-10-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:49:24PM +0100, Gary Martin wrote: To be frank, as we move towards a touch UI Sugar, most of this left click vs. right click, mouse hover pop-up timing will go out the window any way. ;) True. What do you think the time frame for that is? Regards, --Gary Martin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 03:44:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think the problem is the code is rendering the svg icon every time the color is changed. Indeed. As James Cameron pointed out, we're setting the stroke and fill in rapid succession, resulting in two calls to render(). There

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:56:25AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 03:44:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think the problem is the code is rendering the svg icon every time the color is changed. There are not cache or cairo operation used to avoid this. I agree.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v3] Reduction in the time taken for loading of the menu (SL#1169)

2010-10-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:19:37PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: [cc += fgrose,m_stone] On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 06:19 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 06:05:58AM +0530, Manusheel Gupta wrote: Are we ready to commit this patch? Well, it's only a year after

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:15:01PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: I carried out the same benchmark test, which I earlier conducted on an XO-1.5 , on a X0-1 . Please tell us what the test is/was. How many times did you run it? How did you make sure nothing else interfered with the system cpu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
I'm sorry to harp on this, but I hope you can see it actually takes quite some effort to communicate this stuff well... On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:27:18PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: I have attached the pulsingicon.py file Thanks - very useful to understand what you're timing. in which I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:26:40AM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote:  to test the time taken by update function everytime it is called. I used the time.time() function to measure the time taken to process

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:26:33AM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I think the problem is the code is rendering the svg icon every time the color is changed. There are not cache or cairo operation used to avoid this.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:05:45AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 06:42:53PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-stats-graph.png Nice. A question on interpretation ... is the number of renderings consistent

Re: [Sugar-devel] Development Meetings

2010-10-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:45:21PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: For me, default time is ok Wednesday 2010-10-27, 14:00 UTC irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar-meeting How about other possible attenders? +1 pgp18CYjHMMue.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 05:41:58PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: The conclusion of XO-1.5 being nearly 2.5 times faster than the XO-1 could be verified by comparing their hardware specifications. at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1 (For XO-1) and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v3] Reduction in the time taken for loading of the menu (SL#1169)

2010-10-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 06:05:58AM +0530, Manusheel Gupta wrote: Are we ready to commit this patch? Well, it's only a year after there were some quite significant discussions about it: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-October/020141.html There were many concerns. Have they

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1169 NORM: Drop down menus give no indication of their existence, also are too slow to load.

2010-10-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:14:58AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 09:46, Shanjit Singh Jajmann shan...@dev.seeta.in wrote: Hi, Appropriate changes have now been made to the issue and the patches have also been uploaded. Changes have been made as suggested by FGrose in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Christian,   Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which   you can select favorite activities to go in the ring. This is a  

Re: [Sugar-devel] RD vs Product Support

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:06:48AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: we're too small to split people into clubs +1 cheers, m Martin pgpYgACxKm4wh.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] A Tale of Sugar and Pippy

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 06:07:50PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 03:39:46AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Here, we reach the end of my tale. You see, my friend and I agreed that our desired next step would be to send our change to sugar-devel@ along with, well, this

Re: [Sugar-devel] A Tale of Sugar and Pippy

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 02:36:42PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I think all activities should have Report bug on the toolbar somewhere. And of course a system in place on the other end, perhaps email-to-trac? Good idea, but why make every activity implement this? I think a bikeshed icon in

Re: [Sugar-devel] A Tale of Sugar and Pippy

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 02:41:04PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 02:36:42PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I think all activities should have Report bug on the toolbar somewhere. And of course a system in place on the other end, perhaps email-to-trac? Good idea

Re: [Sugar-devel] core maintainers

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Dengler
David, When you have the time, some clarity here would be appreciated. Martin On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:49:33AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 01:58:32PM -0500, David Farning wrote: Over the past couple of months, Activity Central has been establishing a network

Re: [Sugar-devel] core maintainers

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:02:57PM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 18:39, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past couple of months it has appeared that the ramp up of deployment

Re: [Sugar-devel] core maintainers

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Dengler
[we're just arguing for fun now, I guess] On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:59:01PM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: David, When you have the time, some clarity here would be appreciated. Martin On Sat, Jun 12

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 09:17:37AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Furthermore, what all system parameters should be made available through such a means (such as free memory, and cpu load)? Suggestions and opinions welcome! Time and date would be good. We've been there:

Re: [Sugar-devel] core maintainers

2010-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 01:58:32PM -0500, David Farning wrote: Over the past couple of months, Activity Central has been establishing a network of developers to provide service and support for deployments. I assume they're paid, otherwise why would you (Activity Central) not just establish

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Heads-up: POSSE folks hacking in Fedora/Sugar thisweek and next

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Dengler
[In light of sense and recent conversations, please can we not cross-post to five mailing lists in the future unless there is clear information that all lists can benefit from] On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Peter Robinson

Re: [Sugar-devel] [record] Fixes to the UI

2010-06-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:04:44AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Mon, 07-06-2010 a las 03:02 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:04:18AM +0530, anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: [...] great variable name that you inherited, there...might as well rename

Re: [Sugar-devel] [record] Fixes to the UI

2010-06-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 01:12:38PM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Why don't you just fix hideAllWindows()? Because it has a specific purpose. Specific purpose (distinct from what your other method has) or just different implementation? [implementation] If instead of moving them off-screen, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] initial commit to git?

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 07:16:55PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: $ git push gitori...@git.sugarlabs.org:sun-moon-music/mainline.git [...] No refs in common and none specified; doing nothing. Perhaps you should specify a branch such as 'master'. The line: Perhaps you should specify a branch such

Re: [Sugar-devel] [record] Fixes to the UI

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:04:18AM +0530, anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: [...] @@ -884,6 +939,10 @@ class UI: kids[i].setButtClickedId(BUTT_CLICKED_ID) +def actuallyHideAllWindows( self ): +for i in range (0, len(self.windowStack)): +

Re: [Sugar-devel] On sugar-0.90.

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 03:06:34PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [Sugar 0.90 release management discussion] Could you or someone with similar standing merge this thread with http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-June/011033.html ? It seems they're talking about the same thing. Michael

Re: [Sugar-devel] initial commit to git?

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Dengler
Glad you sorted it out. On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:00:43PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: Simple enough: just add master to the end of your first git push command. (I believe it's only necessary for the initial commit.) Yes, because there is no master ref in the remote repo - it's empty of commit

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:14:37AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: IMHO the whole code base should be in English. This is the language we use for collaborating. +1 FWIW Martin pgpyCNHg72HXH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:57:55AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Additionally, having a mixed-language codebase may be off-putting to some potential contributors. It's also going to decrease consistency[1] and increase the bar to contribution to (ad absurdum) working knowledge of each language

Re: [Sugar-devel] Change default Neighborhood network settings for greater security

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34:04AM -0700, Frederick Grose wrote: We simply have no way of knowing who the other users are with whom a child can make friends. How is this different from the lack of knowledge one has about the people one's children could meet at a city park? All it would take

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.88 in F11-XO1

2010-02-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:43:33PM -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: From today's #sugar-meeting: erikos bernie: I think a big problem to recruit 0.88 testers, is that there are no xo images erikos bernie: scratch builds, like tomeu said, sounds good erikos bernie: and then create a repo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Soas03/04 Font Size?

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 06:29:15PM -0500, Art Hunkins wrote: I've run into a major unexpected problem with both, however: the default font sizes have been increased so that my activities, nicely sized for both XO-1 and Strawberry, now considerably overflow the same screens. So I need to

Re: [Sugar-devel] OOM conditions

2009-11-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:07:58PM +, Lucian Branescu wrote: Slightly off-topic, has anyone tried compcache (http://code.google.com/p/compcache/) on an XO-1? I might if I can get it to work. Yes. It works very well. http://www.google.com/search?q=compcache+xo Martin pgp7lEo0pz5B2.pgp

Re: [Sugar-devel] OOM conditions

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 04:50:53PM +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 14:16, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:22:13PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 16:58, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Working

Re: [Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

2009-11-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:08:20PM -0500, paul fox wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Attached is a trivial patch that handles gracefully the situation where cwd does not exist anymore or is no longer accessible to the olpc user.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to virtual machines. Due to a typo in the Makefile the file that was supposed to be called

Re: [Sugar-devel] Latest school-ready image for XOs?

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 12:21:10PM +0100, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hi everyone, I'll be spending an afternoon at the Austria OLPC / Sugar pilot project school on Thursday and was now wondering what the latest school-ready software image for use on the XO-1s there was. I think it has to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Submitting New Activities

2009-10-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 08:32:49PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: Attached is a zip archive that contains both Activities - OurMusic.activity and OurMusicMC.activity. As David asked you for a copy of what you're uploading, I assume you are trying to upload two activities in one .zip file. The link

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:14:57PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:40, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Where should we put our mixture of bugs, feature requests and misunderstandings as we develop curriculum

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:27:46PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: As I work with educators to create and write up curriculum we will discover problems. They will be a mixture of Sugar, Activities, SoaS and confusion. There are a bunch of ways we could deal with it. [...] 2. Everything is first

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:33:45AM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: 4. We will entrust the marketing team with labeling products in a way that is amenable to all parties, including the users and creators of Sugar-based systems. The Marketing team is, and has been, responsible for ensuring

[Sugar-devel] New SoaS build soas68

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Dengler
New Sugar-on-a-Stick build soas68 is available. Size changes: total SoaS ext3 size / change in size: 1442.41M / -248K (change) total SoaS-for-XO-1 NAND size / change in size: 608.73M / 132K (change) Package changes: --- --- soas67.tree.packages.txt2009-09-26

Re: [Sugar-devel] New SoaS build soas68

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 03:24:17AM +, Martin Dengler wrote: New Sugar-on-a-Stick build soas68 is available. [...] This is the SoaS-on-XO-1 build announcement - sorry for the ambiguity in the subject/wording and any resultant confusion. The git trunk announcer's language is in flux and I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 08:06:43AM -0500, David Farning wrote: This sets several important [precedents]: Delegate authority - In this case the soas project can define its own future. And the marketing team can define its own marketing strategy. This is not the precedent. Authority has not

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-24 Thread Martin Dengler
distribution? I'd like to remind people that _this_ is the original question. Please note the parts: current SoaS, primary, and distributes a ... distribution. I welcome pointers to significant modifications or official answers. Martin Dengler has persuaded me that having SLOBs vote on this issue could

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:07:05PM -0400, metamel wrote: All I see is a lot of unproductive reinforcement of 4. let's talk a lot about tangential stuff to the detriment of letting SLOBs get on with answering the original question[1,2]. Patches welcome. You're replying to one. It seems

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