Re: [Sugar-devel] Sound levels and pulseaudio fallout

2009-05-20 Thread pgf
martin wrote: (written as part of the brussels test session) One thing consistent across the machines we're testing with Soas is that many (most?) of them get very low sound levels. This is an issue with Fedora and Pulseaudio. The fedora devel list is aflame with discussion about

Re: [Sugar-devel] disabling tap to click

2009-05-19 Thread pgf
roshan wrote: yes I have those current XOs with standard touchpad and I'm using os767. in that case you're in somewhat uncharted territory. the tap_time parameter mentioned in in the link you gave below is documented to only work with absolute touchpads, so i doubt it applies. there may be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [PATCH] add clock frame device

2009-05-09 Thread pgf
is the choice of an analog clockface feasible? it's not like analog watches have gone away, and i'd think that on a learning platform, especially, that it would be a good option. paul p.s. translation: are we sure it's a bikeshed we should be building? :-) eben wrote: 1. I think that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.84-on-a-XO

2009-05-08 Thread pgf
tomeu wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 14:03, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: I was very heartened to hear on IRC two days ago that OLPC have a kernel hacker (dsaxena) starting in June (to work on Gen 1.5), and that one of the first thing on the todo list was to get

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread pgf
sascha wrote: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: [Clock behaviour in suspend] But I take your point...the answer is: no, it's not easy (with my simple patch). I'm not sure what the behavior should be (hide on idle?!, come out of suspend once a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread pgf
jameson wrote: Well, if the frame always auto-hid after 10 seconds, and the delay for idle-suspend was 15 seconds, then it would work. I personally believe that the frame should be hidden more agressively - whenever there's a user action that doesn't address it, and after a longish timeout

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-02 Thread pgf
martin wrote: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:28:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi Martin, I was hoping the frame clock could be implemented as a device icon extension, so people could add it, remove it and customize it more easily. Why is it inside the shell instead? The code

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-21 Thread pgf
martin wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:05 AM, da...@lang.hm wrote: also note that this will require that you run some sort of DNS cache on the The standard dns resolver libs on linux (part of glibc?) caches alright. All platforms I know cache things alright, and it's fairly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-20 Thread pgf
benjamin m. schwartz wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: The short of it is that mdns/dns-sd make sense for a small, underutilised network of peers. They assume that the network is a cheap resource, that broadcast messages are cheap, and that there is no coordinating server. mDNS

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-20 Thread pgf
martin wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: DNS-SD using unicast DNS seems reasonable to me too. If we can do without the avahi gunk, and use it in a way that is not optimised for user driven browsing but for automated selection of services,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-20 Thread pgf
jonas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 09:45:28AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: benjamin m. schwartz wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: The short of it is that mdns/dns-sd make sense for a small, underutilised network of peers. They

Re: [Sugar-devel] new releases of powerd and olpc-kbdshim (alt. power mgmnt)

2009-04-13 Thread pgf
i wrote: olpc-kbdshim should work on the latest rawhide releases. (i hope -- feedback please, i haven't had a chance to try rawhide myself.) i've gotten my feedback: in a word, don't bother. :-) the grab keys might work, but rotation is broken, not only because the location of

[Sugar-devel] new releases of powerd and olpc-kbdshim (alt. power mgmnt)

2009-04-12 Thread pgf
info that comes with the packages, i'll just refer directly there. olpc-kbdshim is described in its README: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/pgf/olpc-kbdshim/tree/README powerd is described by commentary in the core script itself: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/pgf/powerd/tree/powerd

Re: [Sugar-devel] announce: alternate power management

2009-04-01 Thread pgf
.) anyway, code is available here:    http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/pgf/powerd/ and rpms are here:    http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms/ you'll need to install both olpc-kbdshim and olpc-powerd (in that order).  when installed, olpc-powerd disables ohmd, and reenables

Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

2009-03-22 Thread pgf
mitch wrote: My XO Boots but gets stuck loading the initrd. OFW Q2E34 Here is what I see on the screen Boot device: /nandflash:\boot\olpc.fth Arguments: Boot device: /nandflash:\boot\vmlinuz0 Arguments: root=mtd0 rootfstype=jffs2 liveimg console=tty0

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread pgf
vamsi krishna davuluri wrote: I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop through the network to the server, have the

Re: [Sugar-devel] announce: alternate power management

2009-03-19 Thread pgf
at least one i still can't really explain. (but it was after a couple of glasses of wine, so who knows.) code: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/pgf/powerd/ rpms: http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms/ paul p...@laptop.org wrote: hi -- i had an itch that needed scratching

[Sugar-devel] announce: alternate power management

2009-03-13 Thread pgf
, and not using external devices, so i sort of forgot about this case.) anyway, code is available here: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/pgf/powerd/ and rpms are here: http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms/ you'll need to install both olpc-kbdshim and olpc-powerd (in that order). when

Re: [Sugar-devel] announce: alternate power management

2009-03-13 Thread pgf
is available here:    http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/pgf/powerd/ and rpms are here:    http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms/ you'll need to install both olpc-kbdshim and olpc-powerd (in that order).  when installed, olpc-powerd disables ohmd, and reenables it when uninstalled

[Sugar-devel] fixing broken wiki-to-git links

2009-03-11 Thread pgf
with the recent switchover from, uh, whatever we were using before, to cgit on dev.laptop.org, there are now many stale links on wiki.laptop.org (and possibly some at sugarlabs as well, i suppose). if you do a google search on wiki.laptop.org for url:dev.laptop.org/git you'll get almost 200 hits

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
wade wrote: These charts are really interesting (and nice looking!). The whole thing probably requires a lot of analysis to make real gains though. I wonder what all those calls to 'cat' are in the first chart. I also wonder if it i did some looking, and while i don't think i've found

[Sugar-devel] (no subject)

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
daemon was already looking at every input event, it seemed a natural place to implement the rotation feature. and after doing that, the name seemed like it should change. so, announcing olpc-kbdshim. source: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/pgf/olpc-kbdshim rpm: http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
martin wrote: In fact, this might be something that upstream wants to think about in a generic sense. All the boot-in-5s focus lately is a lot of fun (and great for end-users, I surely want _my_ boxes to boot in 5s), but depends in part on skipping a lot of poking and waiting for hardware.

Re: [Sugar-devel] testers needed: grab keys and touchpad rotation

2009-03-04 Thread pgf
wade wrote: Cool! I'm looking forward to trying this when I get back to my XO I wonder though, is there a reason this has to be a separate daemon, and can't just being part of the HPGK driver with a /sys/... interface for control? it's a daemon very largely because much of the code

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread pgf
eben wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 01:58:30PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a bootable image, and not just a set of files.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread pgf
bert wrote: On 24.02.2009, at 19:09, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: ... Asking for better documentation doesn't imply that the facility is new. It recognizes that development has reached a local minimum in an important component that is not well understood by many. My post was a

[Sugar-devel] future of the grab key?

2009-02-24 Thread pgf
it if you'd like: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/pgf/grabkeyd it needs to be started before X, and uinput needs to be loaded. (happily, uinput is already in the XO releases.) initially the easiest way to test it is: # modprobe uinput # init 3 # ./grabkeyd -l [ check that grabkeyd

Re: [Sugar-devel] future of the grab key?

2009-02-24 Thread pgf
david wrote: Paul, You are not probably not going to get much feedback from core developers on grab right now. gee, way to let them all off the hook, david. :-) That has nothing to do with the validity of the design or the quality of the implementation. It is entirely to do

Re: [Sugar-devel] future of the grab key?

2009-02-24 Thread pgf
eben wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:31 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: but what i'd done was different:  when one's finger moved on the touchpad, the _scrollbars_ moved.  the mouse pointer stayed stationary with respect to the window edges, and the window contents moved in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Activities] using the browser to display help/docs

2009-02-22 Thread pgf
i promised simon on irc that i'd raise this on the sugar devel list, so thanks for replying and reminding me. (to recap: my legacy activity would like to be able to present help and documentation info to the user via the local browser.) s page wrote: p...@laptop.org wrote: can someone