Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
Very nice! Good work Lionel. Gonzalo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.orgwrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of Sugar as a web page. This version now include the list view of the home, datastore handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view. I've decided to name it Sugarizer and package it as a dedicated web site: http://sugarizer.org You could access to Sugarizer from the web site or download the Android. To remind you the concept, Sugarizer reproduce main features of Sugar in HTML5/JavaScript. Sugarizer also expose these features to allow running of Sugar web activities wrote for Sugar 0.100. So all activities included in the Sugarizer package work in the same way on Sugar 0.100. Hope you'll enjoy it, it's my Christmas gift to the Sugar community :-) Best regards from France. Lionel. P.S.: Source code is available on https://github.com/llaske/Sugarizer ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org writes: I've decided to name it Sugarizer and package it as a dedicated web site: http://sugarizer.org Nice! Time to organize a small Sugar on the Web workshop in France I guess :) A happy xmas/new year to all of you, -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
Very nice! I tried them all. The little animation tutorial for the Gears Activity was especially nice. This is a great start on something a lot of us have been talking about. Having it be web/server based is a great solution to a lot of problems. How difficult will it be to add things like Turtle Blocks, FotoToon, Labyrinth and the like? These are the kind of Activities that will make it really useful for learning. Things that can be used for a lot of different subjects and levels would be the most useful. As someone said on another thread, we need to do a survey to find out what Activities are the most helpful for learning. For example... A few years ago the teachers in Uruguay were all raving about Labyrintino. Later, when some of us were there for Ciebal JAM, I asked an 8-year-old boy what his favorite Activity was… guess what? Labyrintino! This mind mapping tool helps students organize information and present it in ways that are easy to see and understand. One large bulletin board at a school there was covered with print-outs of student made Labyrinth projects. You could see that a lot of higher-level learning was taking place. Does anyone want to join me in a survey project? We can keep it simple. I can put together a few easy questions. We could use Google Docs to keep track of our findings. I can work on getting responses in English and Spanish. Others can fill in with French and other languages. Any takers? So…. thanks for doing this Lionel! Caryl From: t...@timmoody.com To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@lists.laptop.org; xsce-de...@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:31:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device This sounds like something that should be on the School Server. Tim From: Lionel Laské Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:52 AM To: Sugar-dev Devel ; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org ; support-g...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device Hi all, I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of Sugar as a web page. This version now include the list view of the home, datastore handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view. I've decided to name it Sugarizer and package it as a dedicated web site: http://sugarizer.org You could access to Sugarizer from the web site or download the Android. To remind you the concept, Sugarizer reproduce main features of Sugar in HTML5/JavaScript. Sugarizer also expose these features to allow running of Sugar web activities wrote for Sugar 0.100. So all activities included in the Sugarizer package work in the same way on Sugar 0.100. Hope you'll enjoy it, it's my Christmas gift to the Sugar community :-) Best regards from France. Lionel. P.S.: Source code is available on https://github.com/llaske/Sugarizer ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the second version of my prototype of Sugar as a web page. This version now include the list view of the home, datastore handling, popup menu on activities, and journal view. I've decided to name it Sugarizer and package it as a dedicated web site: http://sugarizer.org You could access to Sugarizer from the web site or download the Android. To remind you the concept, Sugarizer reproduce main features of Sugar in HTML5/JavaScript. Sugarizer also expose these features to allow running of Sugar web activities wrote for Sugar 0.100. So all activities included in the Sugarizer package work in the same way on Sugar 0.100. Hope you'll enjoy it, it's my Christmas gift to the Sugar community :-) Best regards from France. Lionel. P.S.: Source code is available on https://github.com/llaske/Sugarizer ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang Installed the Android APK on the Android build for the XO-4 (which was announced yesterday as well). It's all very slow (video drivers I suppose) but it works. The Gears Activity works. It also shows up in the Journal. Very cool! Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://commons.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
Hi James, Regarding the search text box, you're right it's... not yet implemented. Regarding testing on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1, seems that Sameer had more luck than you: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151906199843752set=pcb.10151906199923752type=1theater BTW, it's true that depending of the browser it could have HTML5 compatibility issue but it's most often on activities than on the home view itself. Lionel. Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:06:30 +1100 From: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer,a taste of Sugar on any device Message-ID: 20131220070630.gs30...@us.netrek.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tested on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1 using the built-in browser. I see the activity view but without any activities. The search text box can typed into, but it does nothing. The ring and list icons are present, and do respond to touch by highlighting, but the body of the page contains nothing. Any idea what is causing this? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
Thanks, it worked today. Speculation: browser was unable to download a dependency and there was no feedback about it. Is there a way to make it more resilient against failure to download dependencies? Is there a way to package this as an Android App? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
2013/12/20 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org Is there a way to package this as an Android App? It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would respond to a click. Good to know you have published it on Google Play, but that requires an account, and I'd rather not demand that an account be used by learners. I've look in your git repository for a way to package this as an .apk, but found nothing. Will you be publishing how you package? I'd like to be able to add to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android some pertinent information for offline use of Sugarizer. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
On Dec 20, 2013 9:13 PM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi James, Regarding the search text box, you're right it's... not yet implemented. Regarding testing on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1, seems that Sameer had more luck than you: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151906199843752set=pcb.10151906199923752type=1theater I used the Android app that Lionel has on the Sugarizer site. cheers, Sameer (posted from a XO-4 running Android JellyBean 4.3) BTW, it's true that depending of the browser it could have HTML5 compatibility issue but it's most often on activities than on the home view itself. Lionel. Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:06:30 +1100 From: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer,a taste of Sugar on any device Message-ID: 20131220070630.gs30...@us.netrek.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tested on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1 using the built-in browser. I see the activity view but without any activities. The search text box can typed into, but it does nothing. The ring and list icons are present, and do respond to touch by highlighting, but the body of the page contains nothing. Any idea what is causing this? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would respond to a click. Good to know you have published it on Google Play, but that requires an account, and I'd rather not demand that an account be used by learners. This is a major showstopper for the currently peddled/marketed XO Tablet. 1) the child may not have an account on Google. 2) the child may not be online/have connectivity. 3) The child may not have $2.99 for the Alchemy app (for example). Note: I did have to enable installation from unknown sources. cheers, Sameer I've look in your git repository for a way to package this as an .apk, but found nothing. Will you be publishing how you package? I'd like to be able to add to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android some pertinent information for offline use of Sugarizer. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 02:58:24PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: I used the Android app that Lionel has on the Sugarizer site. Thanks. I've had another look now. It was an image, not text, and I hadn't scrolled down that far. Sorry about that, Lionel! It works well. The clock did stop ticking though. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 03:03:43PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would respond to a click. Good to know you have published it on Google Play, but that requires an account, and I'd rather not demand that an account be used by learners. This is a major showstopper for the currently peddled/marketed XO Tablet. 1) the child may not have an account on Google. 2) the child may not be online/have connectivity. 3) The child may not have $2.99 for the Alchemy app (for example). Yes, it is a disadvantage. The intended use is that the system is controlled by an adult for the purposes of using contracted services like Google Play. Deployments may handle this by setting up their own internal equivalents, even if it is a collection of .apk's on a web server. That's also how I'd like to handle it locally, which is why I was interested in the .apk file. Note: I did have to enable installation from unknown sources. Yes, me too. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
The .apk is downloadable here http://sugarizer.org/org.olpc-france.sugarizer.apk This link is also the target link of Android App on Google Play icon on http://sugarizer.org page. I've used this icon for comestic reason :-) but no, Sugarizer is not available in Google Play. So because it don't come from Google Play, you have to enable installation from unknown sources in the Android device settings to allow installing it. Regarding the way I've generated the .APK from the web site, it's Phone Gap build (the cloud version of PhoneGap [1]). You could see the config file need for Phone Gap build in the source repository here [2]. Lionel. [1] https://build.phonegap.com [2] https://github.com/llaske/Sugarizer/blob/master/config.xml 2013/12/21 Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu On Dec 20, 2013 10:52 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16:26PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote: It's already packaged as an Android App :-) Click on the Android App on Google play to download the .apk file. Sorry, I didn't see anything with those words that would respond to a click. Good to know you have published it on Google Play, but that requires an account, and I'd rather not demand that an account be used by learners. This is a major showstopper for the currently peddled/marketed XO Tablet. 1) the child may not have an account on Google. 2) the child may not be online/have connectivity. 3) The child may not have $2.99 for the Alchemy app (for example). Note: I did have to enable installation from unknown sources. cheers, Sameer I've look in your git repository for a way to package this as an .apk, but found nothing. Will you be publishing how you package? I'd like to be able to add to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android some pertinent information for offline use of Sugarizer. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar on any device
Tested on XO-4 with Android 4.3.1 using the built-in browser. I see the activity view but without any activities. The search text box can typed into, but it does nothing. The ring and list icons are present, and do respond to touch by highlighting, but the body of the page contains nothing. Any idea what is causing this? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
