Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-05 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hmm, I wonder if it works with VMWare.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com
 wrote:
  Hi Caroline,
 
  On 3 Sep 2009, at 02:40, Caroline Meeks wrote:
 
  Other Mac users...are you having this problem to? Does anyone know
  the root cause?
 
  The GPA is very excited to use the built in cameras with their
  macbooks.  I'm pretty sure this worked on my iMac a few months
  ago.   I remember someone fixed the video quality for it.
 
  I've had no luck on my MacBookPro, it does recognise the camera and
  activate it, but just produces a black image. Haven't tested with a
  very recent SoaS, so I should add that to the list of things to test.

 I think that you might be talking about two different environments
 here.   The GPA teachers are apparently using VirtualBox which
 provides an emulated PC hardware environment for many different
 hardware/OS platforms.   I'm guessing that Gary is talking about
 booting SoaS directly on Apple Intel based  hardware.   I use
 VirtualBox under Linux and there is no camera support in the emulated
 environment.  There is support for accessing USB devices from within
 guest machines.

 However, I found the following thread on their support forum:

 http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=18695

 which seems to indicate that the VB developers are thinking about
 doing something about fixing their USB code to support USB based
 cameras, but there was nothing there as of June of this year.

 Bill Bogstad




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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-05 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Caroline Meekscme...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Hmm, I wonder if it works with VMWare.

A distinct possibility  based on the following from:

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/releasenotes_ws5.html

.
USB enhancements provide support for a new class of devices, including
webcams, microphones, and speakers.

Workstation 5 offers support for isochronous USB input devices such as
webcams and microphones and for output devices such as speakers. You
can now use your webcam or work with multitrack audio, all within a
guest operating system.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

Yes It does, partially;

VMPlayer/Installed on Ubuntu9.04/  playing Fedora release 11(Leonidas) 
Sugar_0.84.2 VM  appliance made with VMworstation 6.5.2
*Record-64.xo (downloaded from Activities in browse) takes pictures on 
EeePC1000HE internal camera

(camera must be turned on in F2 Netbook bios setting)
pictures saved to journal resume with Image viewer  browse  (will not 
load in e-toys).


Video and Audio functions do not work and hang the application. stop 
works however...


Tom Gilliard
satellit




Bill Bogstad wrote:

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Caroline Meekscme...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
  

Hmm, I wonder if it works with VMWare.



A distinct possibility  based on the following from:

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/releasenotes_ws5.html

.
USB enhancements provide support for a new class of devices, including
webcams, microphones, and speakers.

Workstation 5 offers support for isochronous USB input devices such as
webcams and microphones and for output devices such as speakers. You
can now use your webcam or work with multitrack audio, all within a
guest operating system.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?/// Bug #1277 filed

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

Bug Filed:

Tom Gilliard
satellit

#1277 (record -64.xo Takes Pictures but does not record Video or Audio 
on EeePC1000HE in VMPlayer Appliance)



Thomas C Gilliard wrote:

Yes It does, partially;

VMPlayer/Installed on Ubuntu9.04/  playing Fedora release 11(Leonidas) 
Sugar_0.84.2 VM  appliance made with VMworstation 6.5.2
*Record-64.xo (downloaded from Activities in browse) takes pictures on 
EeePC1000HE internal camera

(camera must be turned on in F2 Netbook bios setting)
pictures saved to journal resume with Image viewer  browse  (will not 
load in e-toys).


Video and Audio functions do not work and hang the application. stop 
works however...


Tom Gilliard
satellit




Bill Bogstad wrote:
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Caroline Meekscme...@sugarlabs.org 
wrote:
 

Hmm, I wonder if it works with VMWare.



A distinct possibility  based on the following from:

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/releasenotes_ws5.html

.
USB enhancements provide support for a new class of devices, including
webcams, microphones, and speakers.

Workstation 5 offers support for isochronous USB input devices such as
webcams and microphones and for output devices such as speakers. You
can now use your webcam or work with multitrack audio, all within a
guest operating system.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:40:37PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
 Other Mac users...are you having this problem to? Does anyone know the root
 cause?
 The GPA
 is very excited to use the built in cameras with their macbooks.  I'm
 pretty sure this worked on my iMac a few months ago.   I remember
 someone fixed the video quality for it.

It could be useful if someone posts output of `lsusb -v` command
(on plain soas on mac system not in VM)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-03 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Bill Bogstadbogs...@pobox.com wrote:
[problems with Macbook? cameras and SoaS under VirtualBox]

 However, I found the following thread on their support forum:

 http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=18695

 which seems to indicate that the VB developers are thinking about
 doing something about fixing their USB code to support USB based
 cameras, but there was nothing there as of June of this year.

Here's a direct link to a bug report about VirtualBox not supporting
USB web cams:

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/242

The good news is that the latest releases 3.0+ of VB might work
better.  Given that this is a known
problem with VirtualBox, there is no point in doing anything within
SoaS without testing the absolute
latest VB release.

Natively booted MacBooks under SoaS is a different story.

Bill Bogstad
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Bill,

On 3 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Bill Bogstad wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Bill Bogstadbogs...@pobox.com  
 wrote:
 [problems with Macbook? cameras and SoaS under VirtualBox]

 However, I found the following thread on their support forum:

 http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=18695

 which seems to indicate that the VB developers are thinking about
 doing something about fixing their USB code to support USB based
 cameras, but there was nothing there as of June of this year.

 Here's a direct link to a bug report about VirtualBox not supporting
 USB web cams:

 http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/242

 The good news is that the latest releases 3.0+ of VB might work
 better.  Given that this is a known
 problem with VirtualBox, there is no point in doing anything within
 SoaS without testing the absolute
 latest VB release.

 Natively booted MacBooks under SoaS is a different story.

Thanks for all the research! Most of my Mac Sugar time is spent in  
VirtualBox, though I'm sure I had a live CD of Sugar booting at one  
point (but never a bootable USB). I'll be sure to run Aleksey's  
suggestion of a 'lsusb -v' next time I'm on that path (and a smolt  
profile would be worthwhile also).

Regards,
--Gary

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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-02 Thread Caroline Meeks
Other Mac users...are you having this problem to? Does anyone know the root
cause?
The GPA
is very excited to use the built in cameras with their macbooks.  I'm
pretty sure this worked on my iMac a few months ago.   I remember
someone fixed the video quality for it.

It works on my Classmate currently.

Thanks,
Caroline

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From: Caroline question81...@answers.launchpad.net
Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Subject: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?
To: cme...@sugarlabs.org


New question #81563 on Sugar on a Stick:
https://answers.launchpad.net/soas/+question/81563

I am using Strawberry.vdi on macs and it does not find the camera.

I've done this on the GPA Macbooks and my imac. Same results.

Its Record 64.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-02 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Caroline,

On 3 Sep 2009, at 02:40, Caroline Meeks wrote:

 Other Mac users...are you having this problem to? Does anyone know  
 the root cause?

 The GPA is very excited to use the built in cameras with their  
 macbooks.  I'm pretty sure this worked on my iMac a few months  
 ago.   I remember someone fixed the video quality for it.

I've had no luck on my MacBookPro, it does recognise the camera and  
activate it, but just produces a black image. Haven't tested with a  
very recent SoaS, so I should add that to the list of things to test.

Regards,
--Gary
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Question #81563]: Why doesn't Record work with Strawberry VM?

2009-09-02 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 Hi Caroline,

 On 3 Sep 2009, at 02:40, Caroline Meeks wrote:

 Other Mac users...are you having this problem to? Does anyone know
 the root cause?

 The GPA is very excited to use the built in cameras with their
 macbooks.  I'm pretty sure this worked on my iMac a few months
 ago.   I remember someone fixed the video quality for it.

 I've had no luck on my MacBookPro, it does recognise the camera and
 activate it, but just produces a black image. Haven't tested with a
 very recent SoaS, so I should add that to the list of things to test.

I think that you might be talking about two different environments
here.   The GPA teachers are apparently using VirtualBox which
provides an emulated PC hardware environment for many different
hardware/OS platforms.   I'm guessing that Gary is talking about
booting SoaS directly on Apple Intel based  hardware.   I use
VirtualBox under Linux and there is no camera support in the emulated
environment.  There is support for accessing USB devices from within
guest machines.

However, I found the following thread on their support forum:

http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=18695

which seems to indicate that the VB developers are thinking about
doing something about fixing their USB code to support USB based
cameras, but there was nothing there as of June of this year.

Bill Bogstad
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