Hi Gary--I think this looks quite nice. This actually seems like a nice
evolution on the simple ring, though it would be good to see how it adapts
from the basic layout and with different numbers of activities...
Christian
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Gary Martin wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> O
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt <
christianm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Starring activites in the journal to appear in Home makes sense. And
> the spiral as overflow for the ring, if executed well, seems like a
> good idea in order to preserve the general UI metaphor. We should
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
> (3) even with the above resolved, we have arguably too little control
> over the home view, both in terns of what appears -- several requests
> have been made for the ability to have views of multiple collections:
> e.g., school view, home vie
Starring activites in the journal to appear in Home makes sense. And
the spiral as overflow for the ring, if executed well, seems like a
good idea in order to preserve the general UI metaphor. We should test
a range of different variations to end up with a design that is both
efficient and
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gary Martin wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
> On 3 Aug 2010, at 11:39, Walter Bender wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:39, Martin Dengler
>>> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wr
Hi Walter,
On 3 Aug 2010, at 11:39, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:39, Martin Dengler
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:39, Martin Dengler wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
>>> > Hi Christian,
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Chris--to address scalability
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:39, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
>> > Hi Christian,
>> >
>> > > Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which
>> > > you can select favor
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > > Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which
> > > you can select favorite activities to go in the ring. This is a
> > > similar
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Paul Fox wrote:
> sameer wrote:
> >
> > This reminds me of something tangential...when the home view gets
> > crowded like this, will the search feature help in locating an
> > activity? Does the mechanism exist?
>
> i seem to recall that this mechanism does e
sameer wrote:
>
> This reminds me of something tangential...when the home view gets
> crowded like this, will the search feature help in locating an
> activity? Does the mechanism exist?
i seem to recall that this mechanism does exist, but has been
disabled. the issue was that if you unknowi
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Frederick Grose wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender
> > wrote:
>>
>> {...}
>>
There is an orthogonal question,
> >> which is if we let the icons move (as with the new spiral and the o
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Frederick Grose wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
>> wrote:
>> > Again, I think that there is likely a better solution to the question of
>> > scalability. An extensible (
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
wrote:
Any pattern will eventually run out of space. A space-filling curve
(Peano curve) might be interesting. There is an orthogonal question,
It's
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
> wrote:
> > Again, I think that there is likely a better solution to the question of
> > scalability. An extensible (scrolling or panning) grid or freeform view
> > showing activity pr
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
> wrote:
> Any pattern will eventually run out of space. A space-filling curve
> (Peano curve) might be interesting. There is an orthogonal question,
It's not strictly true that any pa
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
wrote:
> Again, I think that there is likely a better solution to the question of
> scalability. An extensible (scrolling or panning) grid or freeform view
> showing activity previews would not only convey more information about the
> last ac
Again, I think that there is likely a better solution to the question of
scalability. An extensible (scrolling or panning) grid or freeform view
showing activity previews would not only convey more information about the
last activity, it would also make the home view feel more personalized. For
sca
On 30.07.2010, at 20:25, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
>> Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which
>> you can select favorite activities to go in the ring. This is a
>> similar technique to the OSX dock or Windows taskbar.
>
> I don't think this is working out.
Yep
I have a version which will let you reposition the icons (haven't
added swap yet) but I am not sure how best to reset the layout. We
could have a separate icon on the Home View secondary palette that
will reset the spiral to an initial state. Any other ideas?
-walter
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:40
I am heading off to vacation for a week, but I may get a chance to
play with moving/snapping the icons as well. In the meantime, the code
is quite simple:
--- favoriteslayout.py 2010-07-20 13:31:05.0 -0400
+++ favoriteslayout.py 2010-07-30 23:26:56.0 -0400
+
+class MyLayout(Ring
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Frederick Grose wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Walter Bender
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> {...}
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a tighter spiral of 74 icons for the home view (running in the
>> Sugar emulator at 8
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
>
{...}
>
Here is a tighter spiral of 74 icons for the home view (running in the
> Sugar emulator at 800x600).
Running the emulator with usr/bin/sugar-emulator -i 832x624
give a close
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
> > Here is a tighter spiral of 74 icons for the home view (running
> > in the Sugar emulator at 800x600). I'll upload a version running
> > on the XO soon as I get a chance.
> >
> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/f/f0/S
Hi Walter,
> Here is a tighter spiral of 74 icons for the home view (running
> in the Sugar emulator at 800x600). I'll upload a version running
> on the XO soon as I get a chance.
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/f/f0/Spiral-home-view.png
Looks great! The tight spiral looks si
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> > Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which
> > you can select favorite activities to go in the ring. This is a
> > similar technique to the OSX dock or Windows taskbar.
>
> I don't think this is wor
Hi Christian,
> Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which
> you can select favorite activities to go in the ring. This is a
> similar technique to the OSX dock or Windows taskbar.
I don't think this is working out. For OLPC (and perhaps SoaS as
well?) we're shippin
Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which you can
select favorite activities to go in the ring. This is a similar technique to
the OSX dock or Windows taskbar.
But you raise a good point. I've always thought that there may be an
opportunity for a scalable grid view, not unlik
Hi Christian,
> I do think that there are opportunities for different views, but
> would love to first figure out collectively what the functional
> differences/affordances are that we are designing for...
The functional difference I'm interested in is supporting more activities;
the rin
Could Activities be grouped as open-able folders(Icons with popup
labels), which open with a click per the classification used by ASLO?
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/
ie:
*Search & Discovery
*Documents
*News
*Chat, mail and talk
..etc
..etc
Thus open-able folders (Icons)
Thanks for forwarding this Gary. My feeling is that the views in home should
be motivated by functional differences, for example ring vs. freeform (one
allows positioning, the other positions elements linearly). To me, triangle,
square, and spiral seem a little to obscure to be in the core build--w
On 30 Jul 2010, at 02:00, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>>> See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the
>>> bottom of the page).
>
>> +1 on the spiral.
>
> I like it too. I'm worried that it would scale badly,
Hi,
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>> See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the
>> bottom of the page).
> +1 on the spiral.
I like it too. I'm worried that it would scale badly, but Walter
suggested just tightening the spiral,
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the
> bottom of the page).
+1 on the spiral.
Also, that page suggests vi, but current builds include gedit which is
much easier. The files have also moved.
sudo gedit
/u
On 29 Jul 2010, at 20:45, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At the moment Sugar's enabling the freeform and circle layouts, but
> the code (jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py) also defines (and then
> comments out) triangle, box and sunflower layouts. The circle
> algorithm isn't scaling well as we inst
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At the moment Sugar's enabling the freeform and circle layouts, but
> the code (jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py) also defines (and then
> comments out) triangle, box and sunflower layouts. The circle
> algorithm isn't scaling well as we
Hi,
At the moment Sugar's enabling the freeform and circle layouts, but
the code (jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py) also defines (and then
comments out) triangle, box and sunflower layouts. The circle
algorithm isn't scaling well as we install more and more activities.
Any suggestions on an algor
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