Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-16 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 16 June 2012 04:30, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > * The port of the shell to gobject-introspection will require > > developers to build master of a few GNOME repositories. Even worst, > > the Sugar touch work will require to build gtk+ code which has yet to > > be written > > Ouch. I hope any we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 14:16 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > * We are still in the middle of the gobject-introspection/gtk3 > transition. Adding another bunch of invasive changes to the source > repository would likely slow that work down and introduce more > instability. We don't have enough resour

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-15 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > thanks for your spiritual support :) I tested on Fedora 17 32-bit and it > worked for me. I'd appreciate if you could: I don't have F17 32 bits anymore :( . I was so angry that I installed F17 64 bits (this time I chose for the easy solutio

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Bernie, thanks for your feedback. This gives me a chance to explain where the idea of sugar-build came from and where I see it going in the longer term. I actually started to look into the issue from Marco's sugar-core. I think in an ideal world that's what we would want to have right now. And

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 12:06 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > * I think these tools are used by few people because they don't work > well. I know despite having a lot of experience with GNOME and linux > builds I was highly frustrated by sugar-jhbuild complexity and > unreliability. I'm sure a lot of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-14 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:11:15PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > [...] > git pull (to pull the new bug reporting stuff I pushed) > [...] > make bug-report > > That will generate a tarball with logs, if you send it to me I'll > take a look at what is going on. Now that's service! Well done. --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-14 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Manuel, thanks for your spiritual support :) I tested on Fedora 17 32-bit and it worked for me. I'd appreciate if you could: git pull (to pull the new bug reporting stuff I pushed) make clean make build ... look at it failing ... make bug-report That will generate a tarball with logs, if y

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-14 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > I want to support both 32 and 64 and it might already work. I haven't tested > with 32 yet honestly though, I will do that today. Cool! I tried a lot and I couldn't build it. It would be great if you reach this goal! I didn't take a look a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-14 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Manuel, I want to support both 32 and 64 and it might already work. I haven't tested with 32 yet honestly though, I will do that today. Then I will clarify in the README. This also reminds me that we woud better have buildbots for both arches. Thanks! Daniel On 14 June 2012 04:56, Manuel Kauf

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-14 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Gonzalo, thanks a lot for your feedback. To answer your general point: * I think these tools are used by few people because they don't work well. I know despite having a lot of experience with GNOME and linux builds I was highly frustrated by sugar-jhbuild complexity and unreliability. I'm su

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-13 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > == Fedora 17 == > > Works out of the box! Some questions :) What version of Fedora 17? 32 or 64 bits? Could you make it work on Fedora 17 32 bits? -- Kaufmann Manuel Blog: http://humitos.wordpress.com/ Porfolio: http://fotos.mkaufmann.co

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-13 Thread James Cameron
On the other hand, this is a useful competition of ideas for the task of building Sugar, and if it works better then we are all empowered. Daniel Narvaez seems keen to maintain it, so the cost of maintenance should not be a problem. As for myself, I have never been able to build Sugar. Maybe thi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-13 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
>From one side, it's great to have more people interested in the build tools, thanks! But is really bad start again with another solution (sugar-jhbuild, sweets, sugar-build...), this tools are not used by too much people, then the cost of maintain it, is very high. If you are working in a solution

[Sugar-devel] Introducing sugar-build

2012-06-13 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to make building sugar from source easier and more reliable. I wrote a new set of build scripts that I'm hoping will improve the situation. They are not too dissimilar from sugar-jhbuild but there a few key differences. The code is here: https://github.com/dnar