Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso 
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:55, Harpreet Sareen  wrote:
> The Sugar-Sharp assembly doesn't include today the binding for the Telepathy
> Framework so we can't communicate with Sugar for networking operation.

If you have DBus bindings, you can use the whole Telepathy framework.

> By the way, there is already a Telepathy-Sharp that exists here: Link.
> If somebody already has used Telepathy sharp earlier and/or knows about the
> working of Telepathy and how it is interoperable with Sugar, then the person
> could integrate TelepathySharp in his project and do the right call to
> communicate with Sugar.

I have heard that TelepathySharp is pretty much incomplete and
unmaintained and that it's better to use Telepathy via DBus.

Regards,

Tomeu


> Regards
> Harpreet
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Harpreet Sareen 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No problem. I'll get back with more specific queries related to C#
>> activities.
>> Thanks for the links!
>>
>> Regards
>> Harpreet
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:57, Harpreet Sareen 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> > Thanks for the reply. I have quite a bit of experience in Windows
>>> > development and I specifically wanted to use C# to open the entrances
>>> > for
>>> > everyone to contribute in for the OLPC. Although the hardest part is
>>> > done, I
>>> > would like to know about how can I add the core features of
>>> > collaboration in
>>> > developing activities by C#. Please guide me along the process.
>>>
>>> I agree with what Bert said. If you really want to create a framework
>>> that makes easier developing activities with C# and are ready to make
>>> the effort required, then you will need to slowly learn the basics and
>>> go up step by step.
>>>
>>> A good starting point is to follow these tutorials/guides:
>>>
>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar
>>> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html
>>> http://www.ndesk.org/DBus_Documentation
>>>
>>> You will also need to be willing to read quite a bit of Python and C
>>> code.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>> > Thanks
>>> > --Harpreet
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Bert Freudenberg
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 27.09.2010, at 20:05, Harpreet Sareen wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Tomeu,
>>> >>
>>> >> >>You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy
>>> >> >> DBus
>>> >> >> spec:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
>>> >> >>http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for your response. I came to know about developing activities
>>> >> for
>>> >> Sugar throug C# from this link.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cross-platform/monosugar.aspx?display=Print
>>> >> I am not a pro developer. Is there a tutorial available on how to use
>>> >> the
>>> >> telepathy API for mesh networking in my activity as it is normally
>>> >> available
>>> >> for Python etc. while developing an activity. I would be obliged for
>>> >> the
>>> >> same.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >>sugar-toolkit code:
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326
>>> >>
>>> >> I am sorry I didn't refer to using C# here. How can I make the
>>> >> Activity
>>> >> Toolbar or these widgets in my activity using C#?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?I think you have two options:
>>> >>  >>
>>> >> >>- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
>>> >> >>- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak
>>> >>
>>> >> Since I am a new learner, I would really appreciate a sample or a
>>> >> tutorial
>>> >> on how do the same(using C# here).
>>> >> I would be really indebted for help. Thanks a lot!
>>> >>
>>> >> If you are just learning to program, writing your Sugar activity in
>>> >> Python
>>> >> would save you loads of trouble.
>>> >> It is possible to write an activity in any language (I know, because I
>>> >> did
>>> >> it) but you do have to be proficient in the language you want to use,
>>> >> and be
>>> >> able to map general advice into working code.
>>> >> For C#, the framework that Lionel's tutorial describes already goes a
>>> >> long
>>> >> way, the hardest part is done. But extending it to fully support a
>>> >> Sugar-like GUI and collaboration is going to be your problem, since
>>> >> you are
>>> >> one of the very few (if not the only one) who want to write an
>>> >> activity in
>>> >> C#.
>>> >> - Bert -
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ___
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>>> >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
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>>> >>
>>> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-28 Thread Harpreet Sareen 
The Sugar-Sharp assembly doesn't include today the binding for the Telepathy
Framework so we can't communicate with Sugar for networking operation.

By the way, there is already a Telepathy-Sharp that exists here:
Link
.
If somebody already has used Telepathy sharp earlier and/or knows about the
working of Telepathy and how it is interoperable with Sugar, then the person
could integrate TelepathySharp in his project and do the right call to
communicate with Sugar.

Regards
Harpreet

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Harpreet Sareen
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> No problem. I'll get back with more specific queries related to C#
> activities.
> Thanks for the links!
>
> Regards
> Harpreet
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:57, Harpreet Sareen 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Thanks for the reply. I have quite a bit of experience in Windows
>> > development and I specifically wanted to use C# to open the entrances
>> for
>> > everyone to contribute in for the OLPC. Although the hardest part is
>> done, I
>> > would like to know about how can I add the core features of
>> collaboration in
>> > developing activities by C#. Please guide me along the process.
>>
>> I agree with what Bert said. If you really want to create a framework
>> that makes easier developing activities with C# and are ready to make
>> the effort required, then you will need to slowly learn the basics and
>> go up step by step.
>>
>> A good starting point is to follow these tutorials/guides:
>>
>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar
>> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html
>> http://www.ndesk.org/DBus_Documentation
>>
>> You will also need to be willing to read quite a bit of Python and C code.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>> > Thanks
>> > --Harpreet
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Bert Freudenberg <
>> b...@freudenbergs.de>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 27.09.2010, at 20:05, Harpreet Sareen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Tomeu,
>> >>
>> >> >>You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus
>> >> >> spec:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
>> >> >>http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response. I came to know about developing activities
>> for
>> >> Sugar throug C# from this link.
>> >>
>> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cross-platform/monosugar.aspx?display=Print
>> >> I am not a pro developer. Is there a tutorial available on how to use
>> the
>> >> telepathy API for mesh networking in my activity as it is normally
>> available
>> >> for Python etc. while developing an activity. I would be obliged for
>> the
>> >> same.
>> >>
>> >> >>They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
>> >> >>sugar-toolkit code:
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry I didn't refer to using C# here. How can I make the Activity
>> >> Toolbar or these widgets in my activity using C#?
>> >>
>> >> >>3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar
>> to
>> >> >> eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?I think you have two options:
>> >>  >>
>> >> >>- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
>> >> >>- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak
>> >>
>> >> Since I am a new learner, I would really appreciate a sample or a
>> tutorial
>> >> on how do the same(using C# here).
>> >> I would be really indebted for help. Thanks a lot!
>> >>
>> >> If you are just learning to program, writing your Sugar activity in
>> Python
>> >> would save you loads of trouble.
>> >> It is possible to write an activity in any language (I know, because I
>> did
>> >> it) but you do have to be proficient in the language you want to use,
>> and be
>> >> able to map general advice into working code.
>> >> For C#, the framework that Lionel's tutorial describes already goes a
>> long
>> >> way, the hardest part is done. But extending it to fully support a
>> >> Sugar-like GUI and collaboration is going to be your problem, since you
>> are
>> >> one of the very few (if not the only one) who want to write an activity
>> in
>> >> C#.
>> >> - Bert -
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ___
>> >> Sugar-devel mailing list
>> >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso 
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:57, Harpreet Sareen  wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks for the reply. I have quite a bit of experience in Windows
> development and I specifically wanted to use C# to open the entrances for
> everyone to contribute in for the OLPC. Although the hardest part is done, I
> would like to know about how can I add the core features of collaboration in
> developing activities by C#. Please guide me along the process.

I agree with what Bert said. If you really want to create a framework
that makes easier developing activities with C# and are ready to make
the effort required, then you will need to slowly learn the basics and
go up step by step.

A good starting point is to follow these tutorials/guides:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar
http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html
http://www.ndesk.org/DBus_Documentation

You will also need to be willing to read quite a bit of Python and C code.

Regards,

Tomeu

> Thanks
> --Harpreet
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Bert Freudenberg 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 27.09.2010, at 20:05, Harpreet Sareen wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tomeu,
>>
>> >>You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus
>> >> spec:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
>> >>http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/
>> >>
>>
>> Thanks for your response. I came to know about developing activities for
>> Sugar throug C# from this link.
>> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cross-platform/monosugar.aspx?display=Print
>> I am not a pro developer. Is there a tutorial available on how to use the
>> telepathy API for mesh networking in my activity as it is normally available
>> for Python etc. while developing an activity. I would be obliged for the
>> same.
>>
>> >>They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
>> >>sugar-toolkit code:
>> >>
>>
>> >> >>http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326
>>
>> I am sorry I didn't refer to using C# here. How can I make the Activity
>> Toolbar or these widgets in my activity using C#?
>>
>> >>3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to
>> >> eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?I think you have two options:
>>  >>
>> >>- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
>> >>- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak
>>
>> Since I am a new learner, I would really appreciate a sample or a tutorial
>> on how do the same(using C# here).
>> I would be really indebted for help. Thanks a lot!
>>
>> If you are just learning to program, writing your Sugar activity in Python
>> would save you loads of trouble.
>> It is possible to write an activity in any language (I know, because I did
>> it) but you do have to be proficient in the language you want to use, and be
>> able to map general advice into working code.
>> For C#, the framework that Lionel's tutorial describes already goes a long
>> way, the hardest part is done. But extending it to fully support a
>> Sugar-like GUI and collaboration is going to be your problem, since you are
>> one of the very few (if not the only one) who want to write an activity in
>> C#.
>> - Bert -
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Sugar-devel mailing list
>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-27 Thread Harpreet Sareen 
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. I have quite a bit of experience in Windows
development and I specifically wanted to use C# to open the entrances for
everyone to contribute in for the OLPC. Although the hardest part is done, I
would like to know about how can I add the core features of collaboration in
developing activities by C#. Please guide me along the process.

Thanks
--Harpreet

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

>
> On 27.09.2010, at 20:05, Harpreet Sareen wrote:
>
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> >>You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus
> spec:
> >>
> >>http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
> >>http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/
> >>
>
> Thanks for your response. I came to know about developing activities for
> Sugar throug C# from this link.
> *http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cross-platform/monosugar.aspx?display=Print
> *I am not a pro developer. Is there a tutorial available on how to use the
> telepathy API for mesh networking in my activity as it is normally available
> for Python etc. while developing an activity. I would be obliged* *for the
> same*.
> *
> >>They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
> >>sugar-toolkit code:
> >>
> >>
> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326
>
> I am sorry I didn't refer to using C# here. How can I make the Activity
> Toolbar or these widgets in my activity using C#?
>
> >>3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to
> eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?I think you have two options:
>  >>
> >>- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
> >>- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak
>
> Since I am a new learner, I would really appreciate a sample or a tutorial
> on how do the same(using C# here).
> I would be really indebted for help. Thanks a lot!
>
>
> If you are just learning to program, writing your Sugar activity in Python
> would save you loads of trouble.
>
> It is possible to write an activity in any language (I know, because I did
> it) but you do have to be proficient in the language you want to use, and be
> able to map general advice into working code.
>
> For C#, the framework that Lionel's tutorial describes already goes a long
> way, the hardest part is done. But extending it to fully support a
> Sugar-like GUI and collaboration is going to be your problem, since you are
> one of the very few (if not the only one) who want to write an activity in
> C#.
>
> - Bert -
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg 

On 27.09.2010, at 20:05, Harpreet Sareen wrote:

> Hi Tomeu,
> 
> >>You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus spec:
> >>
> >>http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
> >>http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/
> >>
> 
> Thanks for your response. I came to know about developing activities for 
> Sugar throug C# from this link.
> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cross-platform/monosugar.aspx?display=Print
> I am not a pro developer. Is there a tutorial available on how to use the 
> telepathy API for mesh networking in my activity as it is normally available 
> for Python etc. while developing an activity. I would be obliged for the same.
> 
> >>They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
> >>sugar-toolkit code:
> >>
> >>http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326
> 
> I am sorry I didn't refer to using C# here. How can I make the Activity 
> Toolbar or these widgets in my activity using C#?
> 
> >>3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to 
> >>eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?I think you have two options:
>  >>
> >>- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher 
> >>- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak
> 
> Since I am a new learner, I would really appreciate a sample or a tutorial on 
> how do the same(using C# here).
> I would be really indebted for help. Thanks a lot!

If you are just learning to program, writing your Sugar activity in Python 
would save you loads of trouble. 

It is possible to write an activity in any language (I know, because I did it) 
but you do have to be proficient in the language you want to use, and be able 
to map general advice into working code. 

For C#, the framework that Lionel's tutorial describes already goes a long way, 
the hardest part is done. But extending it to fully support a Sugar-like GUI 
and collaboration is going to be your problem, since you are one of the very 
few (if not the only one) who want to write an activity in C#.

- Bert -


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-27 Thread Harpreet Sareen 
Hi Tomeu,

>>You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus
spec:
>>
>>http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
>>http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/
>>

Thanks for your response. I came to know about developing activities for
Sugar throug C# from this link.
*http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cross-platform/monosugar.aspx?display=Print
*I am not a pro developer. Is there a tutorial available on how to use the
telepathy API for mesh networking in my activity as it is normally available
for Python etc. while developing an activity. I would be obliged* *for the
same*.
*
>>They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
>>sugar-toolkit code:
>>
>>
http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326

I am sorry I didn't refer to using C# here. How can I make the Activity
Toolbar or these widgets in my activity using C#?

>>3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to
eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?I think you have two options:
 >>
>>- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
>>- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak

Since I am a new learner, I would really appreciate a sample or a tutorial
on how do the same(using C# here).
I would be really indebted for help. Thanks a lot!

Regards
Harpreet







On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 14:50, Harpreet Sareen 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 1) Usually the activity interface has different tabs on the top such as
> shown in this screenshot for Record activity.
> http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7580/542record1.png[
^]
> Sugar-Sharp assembly doesn't include the binding for the Telepathy
> Framework. I would be greatful if you could that to make the networking
> operation possible.
> Mesh Networking is a major requirement for XO laptops as the activities
have
> to collaborate. Please Please Please help !!

You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus spec:

http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/

> What do I have to do to make those tabs in Mono i.e to share my activities
> with the neighborhood?

They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
sugar-toolkit code:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326

> 2) I haven't noticed dialogue boxes coming up in Sugar. Are they possible
in
> Sugar?

They are possible but not recommended, consider using an inline Alert
instead:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/graphics/alert.py

> 3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to
> eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?

I think you have two options:

- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak

Regards,

Tomeu

> Thanks for help!
>
> Regards
> Harpreet
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso 
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 14:50, Harpreet Sareen  wrote:
> Hi,
> 1) Usually the activity interface has different tabs on the top such as
> shown in this screenshot for Record activity.
> http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7580/542record1.png[^]
> Sugar-Sharp assembly doesn't include the binding for the Telepathy
> Framework. I would be greatful if you could that to make the networking
> operation possible.
> Mesh Networking is a major requirement for XO laptops as the activities have
> to collaborate. Please Please Please help !!

You can access the Telepathy API through DBus# and the Telepathy DBus spec:

http://www.ndesk.org/DBusSharp
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/

> What do I have to do to make those tabs in Mono i.e to share my activities
> with the neighborhood?

They are normal Gtk widgets, you can see how to construct them in the
sugar-toolkit code:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py#line326

> 2) I haven't noticed dialogue boxes coming up in Sugar. Are they possible in
> Sugar?

They are possible but not recommended, consider using an inline Alert instead:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/graphics/alert.py

> 3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to
> eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?

I think you have two options:

- DBus# to interface with speech-dispatcher
- http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/gst-plugins-espeak

Regards,

Tomeu

> Thanks for help!
>
> Regards
> Harpreet
>
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[Sugar-devel] Queries regarding Sugar Sharp assembly on Mono

2010-09-27 Thread Harpreet Sareen 
Hi,
1) Usually the activity interface has different tabs on the top such as
shown in this screenshot for Record activity.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7580/542record1.png[^
]
Sugar-Sharp assembly doesn't include the binding for the Telepathy
Framework. I would be greatful if you could that to make the networking
operation possible.
Mesh Networking is a major requirement for XO laptops as the activities have
to collaborate. Please Please Please help !!
What do I have to do to make those tabs in Mono i.e to share my activities
with the neighborhood?

2) I haven't noticed dialogue boxes coming up in Sugar. Are they possible in
Sugar?

3) I want to use the Text to Speech mechanism in my activity similar to
eSpeak. How's that done in Mono?
Thanks for help!

Regards
Harpreet
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