[Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : - Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? - Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? - Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : - Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? - Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? - Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Thank you for your answer. So I'll try to do without them. Regards 2014-03-22 19:59 GMT+01:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : - Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? - Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? - Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Hi, Couldn't you just create another toolbar div and .show and .hide when needed? Sam On Mar 23, 2014 6:01 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answer. So I'll try to do without them. Regards 2014-03-22 19:59 GMT+01:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : - Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? - Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? - Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Hello, thank you for your answer and your idea. So I can add, for example, 10 versions of the toolbar overlapping just below the main-toolbar, and to show only one toolbar (or zero) at one time. Or maybe, my idea is the wrong way to do ? As for the third dynamic toolbar, I am still wondering why Gonzola Odiard said that it is probably a bad idea by design. Indeed, I would like to split the learning in 4 steps, then in each step, there is a kind of piece to choose in the second toolbar : and the third is choosing either a lesson or an exercice. Theme | Piece | Lesson or exercice Regards 2014-03-22 21:13 GMT+01:00 Sam Parkinson sam.parkins...@gmail.com: Hi, Couldn't you just create another toolbar div and .show and .hide when needed? Sam On Mar 23, 2014 6:01 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answer. So I'll try to do without them. Regards 2014-03-22 19:59 GMT+01:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : - Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? - Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? - Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
I've just realised that I can do without a 3rd toolbar : ___ Theme_Lesson or Them_Exercice = T1_LEsson, T1_exercice, T2_lesson ... | Piece_kind = pawn, knight ... king ___ That way I can save a toolbar :). I still have to find what is the best way to handle the second toolbar and its dynamic content. Regards 2014-03-22 21:24 GMT+01:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: Hello, thank you for your answer and your idea. So I can add, for example, 10 versions of the toolbar overlapping just below the main-toolbar, and to show only one toolbar (or zero) at one time. Or maybe, my idea is the wrong way to do ? As for the third dynamic toolbar, I am still wondering why Gonzola Odiard said that it is probably a bad idea by design. Indeed, I would like to split the learning in 4 steps, then in each step, there is a kind of piece to choose in the second toolbar : and the third is choosing either a lesson or an exercice. Theme | Piece | Lesson or exercice Regards 2014-03-22 21:13 GMT+01:00 Sam Parkinson sam.parkins...@gmail.com: Hi, Couldn't you just create another toolbar div and .show and .hide when needed? Sam On Mar 23, 2014 6:01 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answer. So I'll try to do without them. Regards 2014-03-22 19:59 GMT+01:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : - Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? - Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? - Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
hi laurent, lionel and i discussed secondary toolbars a while ago. we agreed in not implement them for web because we think that palettes are more convenient. in web you can easily make any kind of palette. just inherit Palette like ActivityPalette does. also secondary toolbars make the activity main area [1] change its height when it appears and dissapears, and i find that very problematic. [1] named canvas, not to confuse with html canvas tag 2014-03-22 17:28 GMT-03:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: I've just realised that I can do without a 3rd toolbar : ___ Theme_Lesson or Them_Exercice = T1_LEsson, T1_exercice, T2_lesson ... | Piece_kind = pawn, knight ... king ___ That way I can save a toolbar :). I still have to find what is the best way to handle the second toolbar and its dynamic content. Regards 2014-03-22 21:24 GMT+01:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: Hello, thank you for your answer and your idea. So I can add, for example, 10 versions of the toolbar overlapping just below the main-toolbar, and to show only one toolbar (or zero) at one time. Or maybe, my idea is the wrong way to do ? As for the third dynamic toolbar, I am still wondering why Gonzola Odiard said that it is probably a bad idea by design. Indeed, I would like to split the learning in 4 steps, then in each step, there is a kind of piece to choose in the second toolbar : and the third is choosing either a lesson or an exercice. Theme | Piece | Lesson or exercice Regards 2014-03-22 21:13 GMT+01:00 Sam Parkinson sam.parkins...@gmail.com: Hi, Couldn't you just create another toolbar div and .show and .hide when needed? Sam On Mar 23, 2014 6:01 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answer. So I'll try to do without them. Regards 2014-03-22 19:59 GMT+01:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Hello, thank you. So I'll have a look at Palette Activity and try to use palettes in my code. (Where is the ActivityPalette code hosted ? I've looked at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities, but it has no reference on the ActivityPalette). Regards 2014-03-22 21:50 GMT+01:00 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: hi laurent, lionel and i discussed secondary toolbars a while ago. we agreed in not implement them for web because we think that palettes are more convenient. in web you can easily make any kind of palette. just inherit Palette like ActivityPalette does. also secondary toolbars make the activity main area [1] change its height when it appears and dissapears, and i find that very problematic. [1] named canvas, not to confuse with html canvas tag 2014-03-22 17:28 GMT-03:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: I've just realised that I can do without a 3rd toolbar : ___ Theme_Lesson or Them_Exercice = T1_LEsson, T1_exercice, T2_lesson ... | Piece_kind = pawn, knight ... king ___ That way I can save a toolbar :). I still have to find what is the best way to handle the second toolbar and its dynamic content. Regards 2014-03-22 21:24 GMT+01:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: Hello, thank you for your answer and your idea. So I can add, for example, 10 versions of the toolbar overlapping just below the main-toolbar, and to show only one toolbar (or zero) at one time. Or maybe, my idea is the wrong way to do ? As for the third dynamic toolbar, I am still wondering why Gonzola Odiard said that it is probably a bad idea by design. Indeed, I would like to split the learning in 4 steps, then in each step, there is a kind of piece to choose in the second toolbar : and the third is choosing either a lesson or an exercice. Theme | Piece | Lesson or exercice Regards 2014-03-22 21:13 GMT+01:00 Sam Parkinson sam.parkins...@gmail.com: Hi, Couldn't you just create another toolbar div and .show and .hide when needed? Sam On Mar 23, 2014 6:01 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answer. So I'll try to do without them. Regards 2014-03-22 19:59 GMT+01:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar implement a primary and a secondary toolbar, attached to a button. You can't add a third. And by design is probably a bad idea. I think in the web activities, the secondary toolbars are not implemented yet. Gonzalo On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I saw that a Python activity, Turtle art, has two toolbars (a main toolbar, and a personalized toolbar just below, which content is set by the selection of the main toolbar). I would like to do something like this inside my LearningChess activity : Is this easy to do in sugar web activity ? Can I even go further : I mean use three toolbars instead of 2 (one main toolbar, the second rely on the choice of the main toolbar, and the third on the choice of the second) ? Is my second request suitable for an Android adaptation ? (As I know there are experimentations in order to port standard activities to Android). Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
2014-03-22 17:55 GMT-03:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: Hello, thank you. So I'll have a look at Palette Activity and try to use palettes in my code. (Where is the ActivityPalette code hosted ? I've looked at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities, but it has no reference on the ActivityPalette). https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web/blob/master/graphics/activitypalette.js -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Several toolbars in a sugar web activity ?
Thank you. I didn't realized it was the activitypalette code from the sugar web activity code. Regards 2014-03-22 22:18 GMT+01:00 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: 2014-03-22 17:55 GMT-03:00 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com: Hello, thank you. So I'll have a look at Palette Activity and try to use palettes in my code. (Where is the ActivityPalette code hosted ? I've looked at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities, but it has no reference on the ActivityPalette). https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web/blob/master/graphics/activitypalette.js -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
