Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-11-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Martin, Martin Guy writes: > On-topic again, the current banner on sugarlabs.org is "Sugar Labs > contributes to and helps maintain the award-winning Sugar Learning > Platform" which I'm 100% in line with, maybe with "and promoting the > adoption/diffusion/use of". Yes, that's certainly

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-11-02 Thread Bastien
Thanks Walter for your thorough answer! I'm well, thanks, and I hope no one here suffers too much from the Covid-19 crisis. Walter Bender writes: > I am still an Emacs user. Would be completely lost without it. Same here ;) > I think that for the most part James has already answered these >

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-11-02 Thread Bastien
Hi James, thanks for your answer. James Cameron writes: > I disagree that the focus has shifted or that it should be shifted > back to what it was. The state of Sugar Labs, Sugar, Sugarizer, and > Music Blocks is due to the contributors we have, and they are too few. Early "contributors" of

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-11-02 Thread Martin Guy
On 02/11/2020, Bastien wrote: > James Cameron writes: > >> I disagree that the focus has shifted or that it should be shifted >> back to what it was. The state of Sugar Labs, Sugar, Sugarizer, and >> Music Blocks is due to the contributors we have, and they are too few. > I understand the

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-11-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Charlie, C. Cossé writes: > Yes, I'm familiar, but I was talking in the context of ways to help > Sugar/Sugarizer platforms, not for me personally.  I just used myself > as an example.  Where there is one, there are usually more ... One possible way is for Sugar Labs to join

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-31 Thread C . Cossé
Hi Christoph, Yes, I'm familiar, but I was talking in the context of ways to help Sugar/Sugarizer platforms, not for me personally. I just used myself as an example. Where there is one, there are usually more ... Cheers, -Charlie On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 1:42 PM Christoph Derndorfer-Medosch <

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-30 Thread Christoph Derndorfer-Medosch
Hi Charlie, have you looked at Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/)? I've supported two or three open source developers via it over the years and am finding it a low-friction way to do that via exactly the kind of monthly subscriptions/donations that you mention. Cheers, Christoph On Fri, Oct 30,

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-30 Thread C . Cossé
Hello all, I would like to mention that there are probably other people, besides myself, who would love to develop their ideas for education software, if only there were some way to get paid. I used to make free education software back when I had kids and could afford the time. I personally

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 4:57 AM Bastien wrote: > > Dear all, > > I hope you're all doing well, in every corner of the world. Nice to hear from you. It has been much too long. Hope you are well. > > After participating to a survey called "State of Emacs", and thinking > about the various "State

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-30 Thread Christoph Derndorfer-Medosch
Hi all, a quick thought experiment from another old-timer and long-term lurker here: James, I think one might also turn your assessment on its head: "The *low number of contributors* to Sugar Labs, Sugar, Sugarizer, and Music Blocks is *due to the focus that we have, and it's unclear*. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-30 Thread James Cameron
I disagree that the focus has shifted or that it should be shifted back to what it was. The state of Sugar Labs, Sugar, Sugarizer, and Music Blocks is due to the contributors we have, and they are too few. No amount of refocusing will have any real effect on that. Sugar Labs will thrive if there

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-29 Thread Bastien
Thanks James. So Sugar is maintained by a handful of people but it is not actively developed anymore. Sugar Labs puts some efforts in maintaining it but does not really know who is still using it. Sugar Labs also hosts the Sugarizer project, which is well alive and reaching children at least in

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-29 Thread James Cameron
Thanks for asking. My reply in context below. On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 09:57:27AM +0100, Bastien wrote: > Dear all, > > I hope you're all doing well, in every corner of the world. > > After participating to a survey called "State of Emacs", and thinking > about the various "State of X" that you

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-29 Thread Martin Guy
On 29/10/2020, Bastien wrote: > "State of Sugar". Absolutely. I'll let better-informed people answer the Q's. For myself, I surveyed the various forms of bootable Sugar distros and would be happy to post the results. M ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

2020-10-29 Thread Bastien
Dear all, I hope you're all doing well, in every corner of the world. After participating to a survey called "State of Emacs", and thinking about the various "State of X" that you can find in the software world (State of Clojure, State of the Octoverse, etc.), I was wondering if you would find

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar

2018-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi Tony, Tony Anderson writes: > Attached is a spreadsheet which shows the current status (subject to > clerical error). Ouch. I see a lot of "MII" (missing in inaction?) in this list. Thanks a lot! -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar

2018-05-22 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Bastien Attached is a spreadsheet which shows the current status (subject to clerical error). Tony On Tuesday, 22 May, 2018 01:08 PM, Bastien wrote: Hi James and all, let me deliberately sidetrack the issue at stake with a larger issue which I'm curious about: what is the current

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar

2018-05-22 Thread Bastien
James Cameron writes: >> Oh, nice. Thanks for proposing. b...@altern.org is dead indeed. >> Can you point b...@laptop.org to b...@bzg.fr ? > > Done. Thanks a lot. >> Okay. Does it mean that most activities on a.l.s.o are not actively >> maintained? Because they just work?

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar

2018-05-22 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 07:46:22AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > Thanks for the quick feedback! > > James Cameron writes: > > > I've just checked a mail server; we still have an alias b...@laptop.org > > pointing at b...@altern.org. Let me know if you don't need it. > > Oh, nice.

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar

2018-05-21 Thread Bastien
Thanks for the quick feedback! James Cameron writes: > I've just checked a mail server; we still have an alias b...@laptop.org > pointing at b...@altern.org. Let me know if you don't need it. Oh, nice. Thanks for proposing. b...@altern.org is dead indeed. Can you point

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar (was: [sugarlabs/ajedrez-activity] Adding A Suitable License (#1))

2018-05-21 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 07:08:43AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > Hi James and all, > > let me deliberately sidetrack the issue at stake with a larger issue > which I'm curious about: what is the current activity status of Sugar? > > Since I've been unsubscribed from the list a few years ago (because

[Sugar-devel] State of Sugar (was: [sugarlabs/ajedrez-activity] Adding A Suitable License (#1))

2018-05-21 Thread Bastien
Hi James and all, let me deliberately sidetrack the issue at stake with a larger issue which I'm curious about: what is the current activity status of Sugar? Since I've been unsubscribed from the list a few years ago (because my @laptop.org alias somehow died), I've missed a lot. I'm aware of