Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-07-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:18 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > > http://dev.laptop.org/~sjoerd/NM0.7/olpc-mesh.fdi > > Though you're really not going to want to use HAL fdi files for this, > since master now uses only udev. You'll either want to hardcode the > Marvell device IDs into nm-hal-manager (or

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:18 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > If other APs appear later, it may well trigger the > schedule_activate_check() which might cause NM to try to connect to that > new network. To combat that, I'd suggest that the mesh device block the > wifi device from activating if it alrea

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-23 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Gary, > >   > Hmmm, how about when a class of kids first boot up and >   > _automatically_ connect to some random, unfiltered, strangers >   > open/public wifi next to the school, rather than following the >   > teachers instructions to attac

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-23 Thread Marc Herbert
Chris Ball a écrit : > I don't think I've ever been in a situation where connecting to an > open access point would have displeased me, when it was the only > connectivity available. OK. On the other hand, how much would you have been displeased to simply have to explicitly click on the open A

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 08:38, Peter Robinson wrote: >>   >>> But, auto attach to any old public AP with no prior user selection? >>   >>> That's just asking for trouble... >>   >> >>   >> What trouble is that asking for? >>   > >>   > A very fair question: >> >> I think that Sugar should prioritiz

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Robinson
>   >>> But, auto attach to any old public AP with no prior user selection? >   >>> That's just asking for trouble... >   >> >   >> What trouble is that asking for? >   > >   > A very fair question: > > I think that Sugar should prioritize what its user might want over > what the potential wishes o

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Gary, > Hmmm, how about when a class of kids first boot up and > _automatically_ connect to some random, unfiltered, strangers > open/public wifi next to the school, rather than following the > teachers instructions to attach to an encrypted school AP running > through a firewall

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jun 2009, at 02:11, Chris Ball wrote: Hi Gary, But, auto attach to any old public AP with no prior user selection? That's just asking for trouble... What trouble is that asking for? A very fair question: I think that Sugar should prioritize what its user might want over what the po

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Gary, >>> But, auto attach to any old public AP with no prior user selection? >>> That's just asking for trouble... >> >> What trouble is that asking for? > > A very fair question: I think that Sugar should prioritize what its user might want over what the potential wishes of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jun 2009, at 00:10, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Gary C Martin wrote: >> But, auto attach to any old public AP with no prior user selection? >> That's just asking for trouble... > > What trouble is that asking for? A very fair question: 1) Many Public APs do not provide internet access an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Gary C Martin wrote: > But, auto attach to any old public AP with no prior user selection? > That's just asking for trouble... What trouble is that asking for? --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 22 Jun 2009, at 15:44, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> 2009/6/10 Benjamin M. Schwartz : >>> Daniel Drake wrote: And now the logic I want to implement, which is similar to that in previous OLPC OS releases: - First, attempt to connect to any known access point

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 16:44, Benjamin M. > Schwartz wrote: >> Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> 2009/6/10 Benjamin M. Schwartz : Daniel Drake wrote: > And now the logic I want to implement, which is similar to that in > previous OLPC OS releases: > - First, attempt to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 16:44, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> 2009/6/10 Benjamin M. Schwartz : >>> Daniel Drake wrote: And now the logic I want to implement, which is similar to that in previous OLPC OS releases: - First, attempt to connect to any known access p

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-22 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/6/10 Benjamin M. Schwartz : >> Daniel Drake wrote: >>> And now the logic I want to implement, which is similar to that in >>> previous OLPC OS releases: >>> - First, attempt to connect to any known access points that are in range >>> using saved credentials. Always prefer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/6/10 Benjamin M. Schwartz : > Daniel Drake wrote: >> And now the logic I want to implement, which is similar to that in >> previous OLPC OS releases: >> - First, attempt to connect to any known access points that are in range >> using saved credentials. Always prefer known APs to mesh. >> - As

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-10 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Daniel Drake wrote: > And now the logic I want to implement, which is similar to that in > previous OLPC OS releases: > - First, attempt to connect to any known access points that are in range > using saved credentials. Always prefer known APs to mesh. > - As a fallback if those APs fail, or if no

[Sugar-devel] Sugar + OLPC mesh network selection logic

2009-06-10 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm looking to implement network selection logic in sugar-0.84 using the NetworkManager D-Bus API to implement something similar to what was present in NetworkManager-0.6 for OLPC's mesh device. (the logic is now being moved out of NetworkManager into sugar) My work in progress is: NM-0.7 wit