Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[Johnson Chetty]

On 20 February 2013 14:58, Roshan Karki  wrote:

> I also would love to hear more about the hardware you used and about the
> process.
>
> Well, in the Gnowledge Lab, we work with a local vendor 'Wishtel' for the
tablets, they are  Allwinner A10 chipset (ARMv7) based.

>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Chris Leonard 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:18 AM, badday  wrote:
>> > It would also be nice if somebody could tell me about the
>> > localization process regarding Hindi as I could not find too much on
>> the web
>> > about it.
>>
>>
>> Assuming you are interested in localizing the Sugar UI and activities,
>> or related educational software like eToys (for which we provide L10n
>> hosting services), then you can find further information on the Sugar
>> Labs wiki at:
>>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team
>>
>> Our Translation Team coordinates it's efforts via the L10n e-mail list:
>>
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
>>
>> and we perform our work on this Pootle instance:
>> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
>>
>> Specifically for Hindi:
>> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/hi/
>>
>> New localizers are certainly welcome, unfortunately, whereas we
>> traditionally allowed self-sign up, a number of forum-spamming robots
>> began registering (and activating) dozens of user accounts each day
>> (defeating the confirmation e-mail process).
>>
>> For this reason, we had to return to a manual registration process.
>> Simply send me the preferred username and e-mail address of any users
>> that want to register and I will take care of manually creating and
>> activating their accounts.
>>
>> cjl
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[Roshan Karki]

I also would love to hear more about the hardware you used and about the
process.


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Chris Leonard wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:18 AM, badday  wrote:
> > It would also be nice if somebody could tell me about the
> > localization process regarding Hindi as I could not find too much on the
> web
> > about it.
>
>
> Assuming you are interested in localizing the Sugar UI and activities,
> or related educational software like eToys (for which we provide L10n
> hosting services), then you can find further information on the Sugar
> Labs wiki at:
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team
>
> Our Translation Team coordinates it's efforts via the L10n e-mail list:
>
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
>
> and we perform our work on this Pootle instance:
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
>
> Specifically for Hindi:
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/hi/
>
> New localizers are certainly welcome, unfortunately, whereas we
> traditionally allowed self-sign up, a number of forum-spamming robots
> began registering (and activating) dozens of user accounts each day
> (defeating the confirmation e-mail process).
>
> For this reason, we had to return to a manual registration process.
> Simply send me the preferred username and e-mail address of any users
> that want to register and I will take care of manually creating and
> activating their accounts.
>
> cjl
> Sugar Labs Translation Team Coordinator
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[Chris Leonard]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:18 AM, badday  wrote:
> It would also be nice if somebody could tell me about the
> localization process regarding Hindi as I could not find too much on the web
> about it.


Assuming you are interested in localizing the Sugar UI and activities,
or related educational software like eToys (for which we provide L10n
hosting services), then you can find further information on the Sugar
Labs wiki at:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team

Our Translation Team coordinates it's efforts via the L10n e-mail list:

http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization

and we perform our work on this Pootle instance:
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/

Specifically for Hindi:
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/hi/

New localizers are certainly welcome, unfortunately, whereas we
traditionally allowed self-sign up, a number of forum-spamming robots
began registering (and activating) dozens of user accounts each day
(defeating the confirmation e-mail process).

For this reason, we had to return to a manual registration process.
Simply send me the preferred username and e-mail address of any users
that want to register and I will take care of manually creating and
activating their accounts.

cjl
Sugar Labs Translation Team Coordinator
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[Chris Leonard]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:18 AM, badday  wrote:

> I now face some struggle where to find all the software and material used in
> that project as in the sugar labs activity website I can hardly find what I
> was looking for. It would also be nice if somebody could tell me about the
> localization process regarding Hindi as I could not find too much on the web
> about it.
>


The main reason you will have a hard time finding the software on the
Sugar site is that AFAICT, neither Sugar (nor Linux, nor OLPC
hardware)  was used at all.

I believe they used Motorola XOOM tablets running Android with a blend
of custom developed software like Nell and some other (proprietary?)
packages.

You'll find some links to the Nell software on cscott's blog:

http://cananian.livejournal.com/67703.html

You'll want to watch the OLPC team explain the Reading Project in these videos.

http://blog.laptop.org/2012/11/03/the-reading-project-in-ethiopia-explained-by-the-olpc-team-involved-in-the-experiment/

You'll also find more on the OLPC wiki:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Literacy_Project

I think you will find that this was primarily a highly instrumented
experiment to see how children with no previous exposure to technology
learned to use tech and how portions of that tech could be used to
introduce elements of literacy.  As an experiment, I imagine it is
somewhat short of a full-fledged production learning environment (like
Sugar).  No offense intended, as a scientist myself, well-designed and
controlled experiments are near and dear to my heart, but it is
important for you to compare the experiment's goals against your own
to make sure they are aligned.

While it is certainly important work addressing one of the core
hypotheses of the OLPC model (particularly, in less developed areas),
but I'm not entirely sure that you would want to simply copy the
hardware/software setup of the experiment without the clear intent to
replicate it and the monitoring infrastructure developed to assess
it's results.  Of course, the OLPC folks who actually ran the
experiment may reply for themselves, so there is no need to take my
word for any of this.

cjl
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[Simon Schampijer]

On 02/11/2013 04:18 PM, badday wrote:

Hi there,

first of all, this is my first post to this mailing list, so a warm
welcome to everybody.

I am currently working in an NGO in India and want to use Sugar as a
tool of education. Therefore I bought a low-cost tablet, rooted it and
installed Fedora ARM in a chroot environment together with Sugar. Now
all that works and via VNC I have the graphical interface running
smoothly including all activities (at least I did not find any not
working). If there is a general interest in this project, I will post a
detailed way to do that.

However, the reason I started to get some interest in this project was
an article on MIT Technology Review (
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/506466/given-tablets-but-no-teachers-ethiopian-children-teach-themselves/
) describing the great success of using tablets in Ethiopia.

I now face some struggle where to find all the software and material
used in that project as in the sugar labs activity website I can hardly
find what I was looking for. It would also be nice if somebody could
tell me about the localization process regarding Hindi as I could not
find too much on the web about it.


I think this is one app used in this project: 
http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/cjb/android-matching/


Chris can probably say more about this.

Regards,
   Simon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[Nagarjuna G.]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:48 PM, badday  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> first of all, this is my first post to this mailing list, so a warm
> welcome to everybody.
>
> I am currently working in an NGO in India and want to use Sugar as a tool
> of education. Therefore I bought a low-cost tablet, rooted it and installed
> Fedora ARM in a chroot environment together with Sugar. Now all that works
> and via VNC I have the graphical interface running smoothly including all
> activities (at least I did not find any not working). If there is a general
> interest in this project, I will post a detailed way to do that.
>
> However, the reason I started to get some interest in this project was an
> article on MIT Technology Review ( http://www.technologyreview.**
> com/news/506466/given-tablets-**but-no-teachers-ethiopian-**
> children-teach-themselves/)
>  describing the great success of using tablets in Ethiopia.
>
> I now face some struggle where to find all the software and material used
> in that project as in the sugar labs activity website I can hardly find
> what I was looking for. It would also be nice if somebody could tell me
> about the localization process regarding Hindi as I could not find too much
> on the web about it.
>
>
> Thank you all very much.
>
>
We are on a similar mission and we are also in India.  Can you tell us
which tablet (hw specs) did you try this on? We are based in Mumbai.  It
will be nice if we can meet and hack together.

some updates on our work can be found from the following link
http://gnowledge.org/pipermail/swarm/

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http://beta.metaStudio.org/
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

[badday]

Hi there,

first of all, this is my first post to this mailing list, so a warm 
welcome to everybody.


I am currently working in an NGO in India and want to use Sugar as a 
tool of education. Therefore I bought a low-cost tablet, rooted it and 
installed Fedora ARM in a chroot environment together with Sugar. Now 
all that works and via VNC I have the graphical interface running 
smoothly including all activities (at least I did not find any not 
working). If there is a general interest in this project, I will post a 
detailed way to do that.


However, the reason I started to get some interest in this project was 
an article on MIT Technology Review ( 
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/506466/given-tablets-but-no-teachers-ethiopian-children-teach-themselves/ 
) describing the great success of using tablets in Ethiopia.


I now face some struggle where to find all the software and material 
used in that project as in the sugar labs activity website I can hardly 
find what I was looking for. It would also be nice if somebody could 
tell me about the localization process regarding Hindi as I could not 
find too much on the web about it.



Thank you all very much.

Martin
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