Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've uploaded sugar-1636-pre.patch with all reverts and cherry patches (be warned, I reverted f93c9de3ff6b7d7f1730c5056b0b4fae9f00a201 patch partially) and reuploaded sugar-1636.patch Done some more work on this, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've uploaded patch with minor fixes and delete fix (b0113bf67c31dbeaa08cf0f1710c1be8d02a9b25 should be cherry-picked) Excellent! thanks! Will be re-diffing it a bit later today. to last sucrose-0.84, was backported

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:12:33PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've uploaded patch with minor fixes and delete fix (b0113bf67c31dbeaa08cf0f1710c1be8d02a9b25 should be cherry-picked) Excellent! thanks! Will be

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Aleksey, List, Hope everyone is relaxing, enjoying and not reading the list... if you are... might be the right time to wake up from the excesses of Christmas celebrations :-) Looks like everyone forgot about these patches of mine. I've now posted them as http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1636 --

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-12-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On os34, if I Filed it as http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9657 - can't find anything on this topic on the SL trac; apparently the

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: We do have an internal format - the ._metadata.json format outlined for the JEBs themselves. Sugar 0.82 writes that out in the internal 'datastore' storage. We can reuse it here. Ok - so last Friday Bert Desmet

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:33 AM, K. K. Subramaniam subb...@gmail.com wrote: Keeping meta-data in the same directory (folder) is the way to go. Of course, the meta-data has to be a hidden file. Of course - why? FWIW, www.freedesktop.org contains a bunch of  standards (really conventions) for

[Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On os34, if I 1 - create a new Journal entry (named F11-100) with some content (and exit activity) 2 - plug in a USB stick 3 - copy the Journal entry to the USB stick via drag-n-drop in the Journal... 4 - exploring the USB disk shows a F11-100.gtar file with _no_ metadata, and the metadata seems

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On os34, if I Filed it as http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9657 - can't find anything on this topic on the SL trac; apparently the usage on SoaS has seen other bugs when saving to a USB stick (like

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Filed it as http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9657 - can't find anything on And also related: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9658 about the impossibility of exchanging data between Sugar versions 0.82 and 0.84 This is

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread David Van Assche
This all sounds like a great current solutinon, but shouldn't we be looking at more long term network ubquity solutions. It seems to be that having a telepathy backend and frontend would allow us to share files anty which wat inclydiung usb if that was desired. From my experience in schools,

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote: inclydiung usb if that was desired Maybe your usb disk has a firmware smart enough to run telepathy :-) Not kidding, at least one of the bugs listed in SL's tracker about Journal Entry sharing would be fixed with the

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread David Van Assche
its true its an unecessary step in THIS particular scenario, but I'm thiking more of a universal tool we could rely on for our datar storage, and something like xmpp file sotrage XEP came to mind. IT contains rudeimentary autehntication, file storage per person or for mutiple people (ie a group

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.11.2009, at 14:08, Martin Langhoff wrote: Not kidding, at least one of the bugs listed in SL's tracker about Journal Entry sharing would be fixed with the JEB-based approach I am proposing. And once the Journal can prepare a JEB, you just write it to the USB disk mountpoint. But (IIUC

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: IMHO separating the meta-data from the file itself is a good idea. Having one database at the root of the stick is just too fragile. Better store meta data next to the file in question, like myimage.jpg and

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread David Van Assche
and storing images in Base64 for example? David On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: IMHO separating the meta-data from the file itself is a good idea. Having one

Re: [Sugar-devel] User workflow sharing Journal Entries over USB sticks

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote: and storing images in Base64 for example? Ugh! Why - for ASCII art enjoyment? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with