Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-10-16 Thread Tom Parker
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 16:10 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:

> I am doing XO builds containing the latest Sugar (0.90) for the XO [2].
> 
> So given from your information, that should be a good way for you to 
> test 0.90.

Indeed, we are testing these builds. Thanks for preparing them.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-10-13 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 09/29/2010 08:47 PM, Tom Parker wrote:

On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 14:30 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:


that would be excellent indeed. We especially need help with 0.90
testing. What hardware and software setup are you using for testing?
XOs? Soas?


In Auckland we have quite a lot of XO-1s (mostly CL1 models) and a few
XO-1.5s (mostly prototypes with the wireless powersaving hardware
fault). We have virtualbox and regular laptop hardware, but I don't
think we have anything on which wireless works with soas. We also have a
schoolserver and good internet connectivity.

Wellington has a similar number of XOs, but I'll let Tim describe their
soas, virtualbox and other resources.

See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand

Personally, I find XO, SoaS and VirtualBox images easiest to test, we
download the night before and re-image our XOs or make new SoaS. For
example there is a Sugar 0.90 release email on this list today and I
have no idea what I'd do with the source.


Hi Tom,

the announcements do tell people that the sources are available. Then it 
has to be packaged by distributions (Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu etc...). 
From there Spins like Soas or the XO picks them up [1].


I am doing XO builds containing the latest Sugar (0.90) for the XO [2].

So given from your information, that should be a good way for you to 
test 0.90.


I will do a new build by the end of the week. Watch out for the 
announcement.


Thanks,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Notes#Update_to_this_version
[2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-October/027456.html
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Tabitha Roder
On 30 September 2010 09:31, Samuel Greenfeld  wrote:

>  Are there any plans to provide remote participation via Skype or similar
> to these talks?
>
> Contrary to popular opinion, not everyone who works for OLPC will be going
> to San Fransisco next month :)
>
> ---
> Samuel Greenfeld
> QA Engineer, OLPC Association
>
>
> There is a "attendee" area at the bottom of
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_SanFranciscoBayArea/OLPCSF_Community_Summit_2010
It shows people who are attending via skype (Caryl and Cherry listed so far)
so think someone is making it possible to attend remotely. The organisers
are also listed on that page. I would really like to see as much as possible
participation from the global community.

Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
 Are there any plans to provide remote participation via Skype or 
similar to these talks?


Contrary to popular opinion, not everyone who works for OLPC will be 
going to San Fransisco next month :)


---
Samuel Greenfeld
QA Engineer, OLPC Association


On 9/29/2010 4:24 PM, Tabitha Roder wrote:


Coordinating tests between OLPC & Sugar Labs is an interesting
one. It's something I've been working on for several months [1].
Perhaps there could be a BOF session with a few people in San Fran
to work out the simplest way forward?

Tim


Added testing to the wiki page for San Fran Summit topics. Thanks for 
the suggestion.

Tabitha


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Tabitha Roder
>
> Coordinating tests between OLPC & Sugar Labs is an interesting one. It's
> something I've been working on for several months [1]. Perhaps there could
> be a BOF session with a few people in San Fran to work out the simplest way
> forward?
>
> Tim
>

Added testing to the wiki page for San Fran Summit topics. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Tim McNamara
On 30 September 2010 07:56, Tabitha Roder  wrote:

> That would be nice. If you add a "[Testing]" tag to those mails we could
>> set up a mailing list topic to allow people to opt-out (see the
>> subscription options [1]). If mailman supports sorting a message into
>> multiple topics, a [Reminder] topic might be useful as well.
>>
>> Sascha
>>
>> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/options/sugar-devel
>>
>>
> We currently use the mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org
> Considering the huge number of lists that many of us follow I would like us
> to consider whether we need to use another list. There are 16 lists on
> lists.sugarlabs.org and over 100 lists on lists.laptop.org and many of us
> follow quite a few and the lines between olpc and Sugar are blurred because
> if you support one you are often found supporting the other.
> Could we use test...@lists.laptop.org or do we need to separate out Sugar
> testing for non XO hardware? Whatever is decided I will follow, just making
> sure we think it through.
> Thanks
> Tabitha
>

Hi Tabitha,

I think Sascha was just asking that we add [Testing] to messages to
sugar-devel. This means that people can opt-out of those messages in the
list's administration setting.

Coordinating tests between OLPC & Sugar Labs is an interesting one. It's
something I've been working on for several months [1]. Perhaps there could
be a BOF session with a few people in San Fran to work out the simplest way
forward?

Tim

[1] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tim/testing
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Tabitha Roder
>
> That would be nice. If you add a "[Testing]" tag to those mails we could
> set up a mailing list topic to allow people to opt-out (see the
> subscription options [1]). If mailman supports sorting a message into
> multiple topics, a [Reminder] topic might be useful as well.
>
> Sascha
>
> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/options/sugar-devel
>
>
We currently use the mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org
Considering the huge number of lists that many of us follow I would like us
to consider whether we need to use another list. There are 16 lists on
lists.sugarlabs.org and over 100 lists on lists.laptop.org and many of us
follow quite a few and the lines between olpc and Sugar are blurred because
if you support one you are often found supporting the other.
Could we use test...@lists.laptop.org or do we need to separate out Sugar
testing for non XO hardware? Whatever is decided I will follow, just making
sure we think it through.
Thanks
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Tom Parker
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 14:30 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:

> that would be excellent indeed. We especially need help with 0.90 
> testing. What hardware and software setup are you using for testing? 
> XOs? Soas?

In Auckland we have quite a lot of XO-1s (mostly CL1 models) and a few
XO-1.5s (mostly prototypes with the wireless powersaving hardware
fault). We have virtualbox and regular laptop hardware, but I don't
think we have anything on which wireless works with soas. We also have a
schoolserver and good internet connectivity.

Wellington has a similar number of XOs, but I'll let Tim describe their
soas, virtualbox and other resources.

See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand 

Personally, I find XO, SoaS and VirtualBox images easiest to test, we
download the night before and re-image our XOs or make new SoaS. For
example there is a Sugar 0.90 release email on this list today and I
have no idea what I'd do with the source.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tim McNamara's message of Sun Sep 26 22:04:56 +0200 2010:

> Sorry about that Sascha. We meet every weekend (Friday evening in Europe,
> Friday afternoon USA) , but haven't received many direct requests in a
> while.

Ah, good to know.

> If it would be worthwhile, I can send out reminders in the middle of the
> week asking for things that are worthwhile to be manually tested. Do people
> think that would be excessive?

That would be nice. If you add a "[Testing]" tag to those mails we could
set up a mailing list topic to allow people to opt-out (see the
subscription options [1]). If mailman supports sorting a message into
multiple topics, a [Reminder] topic might be useful as well.

Sascha

[1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/options/sugar-devel
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http://sascha.silbe.org/
http://www.infra-silbe.de/


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/26/2010 10:04 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On 25 September 2010 21:07, Sascha Silbe<
> sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org>  wrote:
>
>> Excerpts from Tim McNamara's message of Fri Sep 24 22:37:18 +0200 2010:
>>
>>> The New Zealand testing groups will be operating in a few hours. If you
>> have
>>> any requests for things to be explored, please respond within 5 hours.
>>
>> That was a bit short notice.
>
>
> Sorry about that Sascha. We meet every weekend (Friday evening in Europe,
> Friday afternoon USA) , but haven't received many direct requests in a
> while.
>
> If it would be worthwhile, I can send out reminders in the middle of the
> week asking for things that are worthwhile to be manually tested. Do people
> think that would be excessive?
>
> Tim

Hi Tim,

that would be excellent indeed. We especially need help with 0.90 
testing. What hardware and software setup are you using for testing? 
XOs? Soas?

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 22:04, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> On 25 September 2010 21:07, Sascha Silbe
>  wrote:
>>
>> Excerpts from Tim McNamara's message of Fri Sep 24 22:37:18 +0200 2010:
>>
>> > The New Zealand testing groups will be operating in a few hours. If you
>> > have
>> > any requests for things to be explored, please respond within 5 hours.
>>
>> That was a bit short notice.
>
> Sorry about that Sascha. We meet every weekend (Friday evening in Europe,
> Friday afternoon USA) , but haven't received many direct requests in a
> while.
> If it would be worthwhile, I can send out reminders in the middle of the
> week asking for things that are worthwhile to be manually tested. Do people
> think that would be excessive?

I think it would be very appropriate. Thanks for the great work!

Tomeu

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[Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-26 Thread Tim McNamara
On 25 September 2010 21:07, Sascha Silbe <
sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org> wrote:

> Excerpts from Tim McNamara's message of Fri Sep 24 22:37:18 +0200 2010:
>
> > The New Zealand testing groups will be operating in a few hours. If you
> have
> > any requests for things to be explored, please respond within 5 hours.
>
> That was a bit short notice.


Sorry about that Sascha. We meet every weekend (Friday evening in Europe,
Friday afternoon USA) , but haven't received many direct requests in a
while.

If it would be worthwhile, I can send out reminders in the middle of the
week asking for things that are worthwhile to be manually tested. Do people
think that would be excessive?

Tim
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