Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-02 Thread Caroline Meeks
here is another site for ideas. Someday it woudl be cool to let people assemble their own Sugar release with language and activity choices. http://www.susestudio.com/ On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it may be possible to lower further the barrier for the less technical users that want to download sugar on a stick. Maybe we could offer a .zip for download that can be expanded on a bootable usb stick and just work? Regards, Tomeu Hi, I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 01:58:30PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a bootable image, and not just a set of files. What about raw disk images

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:01:15PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: This assumption, however, excludes the Windows-using majority. Only if it's the only option, which wasn't my intention. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:01:15PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: This assumption, however, excludes the Windows-using majority. Only if it's the only option, which wasn't my intention. Good point; that's

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
This become an issue of cost effectiveness. I understand Branded USBs are on the order of $8 a stick. The Fedora Ambassadors tried giving away USB keys. Thye found that they were not cost effective. The high cost per unit combined with the low 'stick rate' made them unfeasible. I understand

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread pgf
eben wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 01:58:30PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: As I understand it, this cannot be so simple because it needs to be a bootable image, and not just a set of files.

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Make the LiveCD have a usb maker on the desktop when launched. That's a really good idea, actually. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: This become an issue of cost

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:30:00PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: 1) Download the SoaS file for [windows] [linux] or [mac] 2) Plug in a USB drive that's 1GB or larger 3) Click the thing that's named/looks-like 'X' to make your Sugarstick Part 3 is the interesting one. To make a USB stick

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
2009/3/1 Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Make the LiveCD have a usb maker on the desktop when launched. That's a really good idea, actually. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: Wait, isn't SOAS just a bunch of files on a stick? AFAICT, they don't modify the underlying FS (or at least Ubuntu's liveUSB creator doesn't). It can't be just files, otherwise it wouldn't be bootable. For that, the boot sector

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Sean DALY
Eben - FYI I am pricing the first run of 100 Sugar Labs branded USB sticks now, if you have a moment please look at: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000341.html http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/000363.html thanks Sean On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
Sean, Awesome! It looks to me like those sticks might be pretty hard to print on, given the indentation near the cap, which cuts the printable area nearly in half. Also, my own instinct would be to choose black or white plastic to be consistent with the guidelines for using the Sugar Labs logo,

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Gary C Martin
On 1 Mar 2009, at 21:25, Luke Faraone wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: The underlying problem is that on Linux, users normally don't have direct access to removable media, only indirectly via mount (which is setuid). Other

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread Sean DALY
thanks Eben In theory the logo printing is on the other side of the stick these candidate sticks are translucent plastic, and plastic is generally cheaper than metal, and especially colored (i.e. non-black or silver or gold) metal. I have made the case to Christian (cf. the thread) that