On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
[snip]
I think you need to change the xkb files, but I'm not sure. Do you
have a mechanical keyboard you can test with? If not, you'll have to
get someone else to do this.
Yes, I have one - the
Hi all,
We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some
suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or
hard/clicky one. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard
switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose
hard/clicky one is that
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote:
Hi all,
We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some
suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or
hard/clicky one.
I think it is great to seek input from the community, but don't forget
to
James,
Do we have any data re the mechanical reliability/durability/repairability
of the hard/clicky keyboards? We do know that although there were some
issues with membrane pealing (presumably resolved with the newer design)
there numerous ingenious local repairs such that most are still working
I have no such data, sorry.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 07:13:48AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
James,
Do we have any data re the mechanical
reliability/durability/repairability of the hard/clicky keyboards?
We do know that although there were some issues with membrane
pealing (presumably
Walter,
You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated
for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane
keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky keyboard is
only rated to 1 million key presses. (On the other
On a related note, I was curious about deployment experiences with the
new membrane design with plastic grid in between keys. Although this
does help with premature peeling of keys, I've always had trouble with
these keyboards - the outer edges of my fingers get in the way of a
full key depress.
On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote:
Walter,
You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated
for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote:
On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote:
Walter,
You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not
rated
for as
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
basanta wrote:
Amazingly changing the manufacturing data didn't do the job but changing
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard did. Wow! Now I have Nepali input system. Thank you
all.
i believe /etc/sysconfig/keyboard is created on
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
Amazingly changing the manufacturing data didn't do the job but changing
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard did. Wow! Now I have Nepali input system. Thank you
all.
Now I need to find a place to change default locale
Okay, that is consistent with the data we have for the SKU311
mentioned by Samuel on 8th November.
The divide and multiply key is the language switch key.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 01:36:35PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote:
The laptops(XO-4) have arrived but it turns out the keyboard is the other
Makes things much easier. Now you just have to change the
manufacruring data as was suggested earlier, but you don't need to
modify the xkb symbol table.
Good luck.
-walter
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:24 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
Okay, that is consistent with the data we have for
Amazingly changing the manufacturing data didn't do the job but changing
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard did. Wow! Now I have Nepali input system. Thank you
all.
Now I need to find a place to change default locale to ne_NP, so that the
default interface is in Nepali. There is an option to do this in
basanta wrote:
Amazingly changing the manufacturing data didn't do the job but changing
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard did. Wow! Now I have Nepali input system. Thank you
all.
i believe /etc/sysconfig/keyboard is created on first boot, using
information gleaned from manufacturing data. see
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
reu...@laptop.org or myself. I must know the SKU number.
In the particular case of changing language/keyboard defaults as we
are discussing, instead of changing
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 11:38 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
reu...@laptop.org or myself. I must know the SKU number.
In the particular case of changing
I made the changes but how do we set the key combination to invoke the
nepali layout. We need to have english as default and then nepali as and
when required.
-Basanta
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:03 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:08:18AM +0545, Basanta
D
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
reu...@laptop.org or myself. I must know the SKU number.
In the particular case of
The laptops(XO-4) have arrived but it turns out the keyboard is the other
one the rubber one (Improved Membrane Keyboard ?).
-Basanta
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
D
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:08:18AM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote:
But I am still wondering how we could alter/change the stored data
to our preference or if we can do it ourselves. Please suggest.
At the firmware ok prompt [1], you may change the tag values [2], for
example;
ok tags(
ok
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
They are hard/clicky ones.
So I think what we should do is a combination of the suggestions made
previously: if you set the manufacturing data (KL) [1] to tell the
laptops that they have Nepali keyboards, you
walter wrote:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
They are hard/clicky ones.
So I think what we should do is a combination of the suggestions made
previously: if you set the manufacturing data (KL) [1] to tell the
laptops that they
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
walter wrote:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
They are hard/clicky ones.
So I think what we should do is a combination of the suggestions made
previously: if
Thank you so much Walter and sorry that I am very new to these thing. What
I have understood so far is :
.mfg-date will list the predefined set to stored data. And we need to set
KL to 'np' ( this the name of maping file for Nepali under
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/
) and we need to set some
A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come
up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you
planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to
the keyboard?
Happy to explore this with you further.
regards.
-walter
On Fri, Nov 8,
Hi Walter
We don't have plans to use stickers at the moment. The stickers won't last
long in the hands of kids. But we need to have some mechanism to input
Nepali characters. For now we can give them a printout of the keyboard
layout.
Regards,
Basanta
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Walter
What about a virtual touch keyboard layout? Just wondering?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
Hi Walter
We don't have plans to use stickers at the moment. The stickers won't last
long in the hands of kids. But we need to have some mechanism
On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:24, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:
What about a virtual touch keyboard layout? Just wondering?
FWIW: I'm pretty sure (check [1] [2]) that Nepali layouts were not part of
the Maliit set I was asked to work on for the XO-4 touch keyboard layouts. It's
been
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was
wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it.
Are these keyboards hard/clicky/high-school style, or soft/membrane?
Daniel
I believe Basanta said that they were the hard click keyboards
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was
If these are the SKU 311 units the Manufacturing Data on the wiki implies
they have membrane keyboards.
If so I don't see any reason using the keyboard manufacturing tags used for
previous Nepali manufacturing runs (or used testing out the settings in
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard manually) shouldn't
They are hard/clicky ones.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was
wondering how we can enable nepali
Hi,
I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable
Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button
just below the enter button which would switch input between English and
Nepali. And that was very convenient.
But for XO-4 we will just be
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