On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
wrote:
> Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
>> I seem to recall several Python apps moving from numpy to numarray in
>> the past, so it should be doable.
>
> I strongly suspect you are backwards. Numarray is the deprecated
> predecessor to numpy.
>
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On 09/29/2009 01:52 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>
>>> I admit I'm not following sugar and numpy discussions too closely so I
>>> might have missed it but I don't remember this. I d
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On 09/29/2009 12:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some
>>> of the examples.
>>>
>>> So far, so goo
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 04:10:39PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió:
> > pygame and numpy are parts of Sugar Platform[1], at least for 0.84,
> > so, the right question is should these pakcages be a part of SP-0.86
> > I guess +1 for both, s
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 16:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió:
>> Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>> > 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of
>> > numpy?
>>
>> No. It has no competition, and is used by virtual
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> I seem to recall several Python apps moving from numpy to numarray in
> the past, so it should be doable.
I strongly suspect you are backwards. Numarray is the deprecated
predecessor to numpy.
http://www.stsci.edu/resources/software_hardware/numarray/numarray.html
El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 16:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió:
> Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> > 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of
> > numpy?
>
> No. It has no competition, and is used by virtually every program that
> uses python and performs array manipulat
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió:
> I suspect the #1 usecase for numpy is to compensate for lack of good
> array support in Python.
>
>
> Questions:
>
> 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popul
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Questions:
>
> 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of
> numpy?
No. It has no competition, and is used by virtually every program that
uses python and performs array manipulation. I think it would probably be
part of the python standard li
We use numpy in Measure for array support and the fft library. We used
it in Turtle Art with Sensors for similar reasons.
-walter
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>> El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Li
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió:
>> pygame and numpy are parts of Sugar Platform[1], at least for 0.84,
>> so, the right question is should these pakcages be a part of SP-0.86
>> I guess +1 for both, since we hav
El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió:
> pygame and numpy are parts of Sugar Platform[1], at least for 0.84,
> so, the right question is should these pakcages be a part of SP-0.86
> I guess +1 for both, since we have honey activities that are depend on
> these packages.
In Sug
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:36:19PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 09:33:17PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some
> > of the examples.
> >
> > So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on nu
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 09:33:17PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Hello,
>
> the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some
> of the examples.
>
> So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package
> which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas (11MB
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Hello,
>
> the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some
> of the examples.
>
> So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package
> which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas (11MB), libgfor
Hi Bernie,
On 29 Sep 2009, at 02:33, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Hello,
>
> the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some
> of the examples.
>
> So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package
> which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas (11MB), li
I wouldn't mind seeing a custom PyGame for Sugar (let's call it sugargame).
Ryan Gordon made a GTK backend for SDL which would allow the PyGame display
to coexist with GTK widgets[1]. Also, Nirav Patel has written a sweet
PyGame camera module which supports object tracking etc. There's probably a
Hello,
the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some
of the examples.
So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package
which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas (11MB), libgfortran
(1MB), blas (700KB) and python-nose (1MB).
The rest of Sugar is
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