On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:11:53PM -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
Rafael Ortiz
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Hello:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 00:52, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Sayamindu,
I can't access the translation interface:
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
Seems to be up now.
Regards,
Tomeu
Maintenance?
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:59:53AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009
Quoting that page:
Not permitted by Linuxtag:
* wireless access points (You are not permitted to operate your
private wireless LAN. Please take this serious.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 20:00, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote:
On 16 Jun 2009, at 20:50, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
we are considering using the composite extension in order to improve
the perceived graphics performance of Sugar.
It would be great if someone could test it by running the
On 06/18/2009 10:57 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:59:53AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009
Quoting that page:
Not permitted by Linuxtag:
* wireless access points (You are not permitted to operate your
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:09:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
Wonder if that's intended, as going to a zoom level involves some kind
of animation, i.e. is not intended to take you there as fast as
possible.
What kind of animation? I can't remember ever having seen one (unless
you count the
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:21, Sascha
Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:09:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
Wonder if that's intended, as going to a zoom level involves some kind
of animation, i.e. is not intended to take you there as fast as
possible.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 03:50, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
We have seriously hijacked the original thread:(
If we kept the subject line in sync with the threads' topic, people
could have an easier time to know what to read and what not and we
could resist better splitting mls.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote:
On 17 Jun 2009, at 06:29, Edward Cherlin wrote:
Did you look at my Turtle Art version of Alan Kay's third-grade gravity
lesson?
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gravity.odt
I had a read, but it didn't get me very
Hi Bryan
here is a really good canvas tutorial from Mozilla
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Canvas_tutorial
also check http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/html-5-canvas-the-basics/
I read this tutorial, it helped me with the drawing stuff (I used this idea
within quadrilaterals, see the double
Hello folks.
Is there any interest in figuring out how assessments might work in a
Sugar activity API?
Teachers frequently talk about the need to assess the progress of their
pupils. In the context of an activity, how do teachers do that? I don't
think there's a clear mechanism, and I
We've been having an issue on some newer macs with the screen going blank.
Deds and Pauline have been working on the issue and here is what they have
discovered that works.
Note that this is using standard keyboard and not the apple one. If using
apple keyboard you might need to change the keys
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 14:31, Greg DeKoenigsbergg...@redhat.com wrote:
Hello folks.
Is there any interest in figuring out how assessments might work in a
Sugar activity API?
Teachers frequently talk about the need to assess the progress of their
pupils. In the context of an activity, how
Hi Caroline,
We've been having an issue on some newer macs with the screen going blank.
Deds and Pauline have been working on the issue and here is what they have
discovered that works.
When you say going blank do you mean that the screen randomly blanks
and then comes back again either after
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Caroline,
We've been having an issue on some newer macs with the screen going
blank.
Deds and Pauline have been working on the issue and here is what they
have
discovered that works.
When you say going blank
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
0. I'm guessing there will be some simple API, maybe
sugar.activity.assess. Or maybe it's actually part of datastore.
The obvious thing, to me, is to store it in the Datastore object's
metadata properties. Perhaps two integer fields, score and maxscore.
No new API
David,
I am doing that now, but the page I'm pointing to is the one on
wiki.laptop.org. Should I abandon that page and create a new one
somewhere else? Should I perhaps move my pages to wiki.sugarlabs.org
and replace my current page with a link to ASLO?
James Simmons
David Farning
I don't think is really matters where you homepage is located. The
important bit is to think of the activity portal as an easily
search-able common entry point for users. The home page is for
anything else you might want to convey.
david
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM, James
David,
I've created a newer and shorter page on wiki.sugarlabs.org for Read
Etexts and linked it to ASLO. I've also replaced the contents of the
old wiki.laptop.org with a link to ASLO. This should eliminate a lot of
redundant updating. If there are no complaints I'll do the same thing
for
James,
That looks good. You can also point directly to the Read Etexts
activity on ASLO with
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4035
and you can point to the download with
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/downloads/latest/4035
If browse correctly reports the Sugar version, ALSO
We've discussed my idea to do a flurry of press releases over the
next couple of weeks, coinciding with our presence/sessions at:
* LinuxTag
Berlin
June 24-27
http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en.html
* Free Open Source Software in Education (FOSSED)
Bethel, Maine
June 24-26
http://www.fossed.com
*
Chris,
Upon further examining
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Browse_(8.2), I think that we can
maintain backwards compatibility both technically and socially by
using the existing /Activities/NAME_(VERSION) by pointing the links on
that page to
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:13:52AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
James,
That looks good. You can also point directly to the Read Etexts
activity on ASLO with
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4035
and you can point to the download with
Hello,
we'd like to get the streamlined branch merged, but there's doubt that
many distributions we don't test frequently with would break randomly
due to older package versions or missing patches.
If you're running a *recent* distro other than Fedora or Ubuntu, please
check out this repository,
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:13:52AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
James,
That looks good. You can also point directly to the Read Etexts
activity on ASLO with
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4035
and you
Sean and others
can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
Right now, every time its mentioned it always uses the Fedora backend
without question or debate. I think of it a little like when someone
says write me an office letter (and its quitely assumed by everyonen
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Hi Bernie and others,
[commenting since I was adressed personally]
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 06:46:25PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
we'd like to get the streamlined branch merged, but there's doubt that
many distributions we don't test
(excluding IAEP from cc list)
On 18.06.2009, at 19:45, David Van Assche wrote:
Anyway, the point is not to tie SoaS to one distro...
Err, SoaS *is* a distro. It currently is based on Fedora, it might get
based on something else in the unforeseeable future, but having a
gazillion SoaSes
I beg everyone's pardon, I was under the impression that SoaS is
Fedora-specific... are there plans to do versions based on other
distros?
Sean
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
(excluding IAEP from cc list)
On 18.06.2009, at 19:45, David Van Assche
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:45:45PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
Right now, every time its mentioned it always uses
sorry ended up going to Sean only...
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From: David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Press release flurry planning
(LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)
To: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com
Soas =
Done...
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Grosefgr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com
wrote:
Sean and others
can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
Right now, every time its mentioned it
Latest version at http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/webified
2009/6/11 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com:
Update http://honeyweb.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/ssb-creator/
2009/6/7 Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Lucian
Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com
On 18.06.2009, at 20:28, David Van Assche wrote:
Soas = sugar on a stick whether that be on Fedora, Suse, debian,
or mandriva... they are all the same thing, and I would argue SoaS is
NOT a distro... just a dsitribution mechanism... for example, I call
my opensuse based sugar on stick
Well, here is where I totally disagree. The term SoaS actually came
from the ubuntu derived Sugar on a stick. so by your logic, as it was
'coined' by an individual who chose to put sugar on a usb stick using
ubuntu, who by the same logic is the sole owner and user of that term.
I think that really
Well, that ship sailed quite a while ago. I find it hard to believe
that you missed the significant publicity surrounding Sugar being
available on openSUSE in ALL formats (cd/dvd/usb/vm appliance) as I've
been touting that for at least 2 months now. In fact the collaboration
sessions that have
Hi Caroline
I can only think of three ways of doing this:
1. Offer a Mac-specific SoaS;
2. Add an extra option to the boot menu to allow Mac booting;
3. Use a (modified?) initrd to try to detect whether the computer is
a Mac, after the bootloader but before loading the full kernel, and
The basic principle behind the ALSO updater seems to be that you send
a url to ASLO - Services and it responds with a list of available
updates.
Server side, the updater is part of ALSO services, a collection of
activity related services. The relevant code is found under
This is just a naming problem. Sugar on a Stick is a generic
descriptive phrase that has been repurposed as a proper noun. This
inevitably leads to confusion, because the two meanings do not agree.
I encourage the developers of the Fedora-derived image to adopt a new
name, to solve this
right, otherwise, imagine I call the openSUSE cd version SoaC, Sugar
on a CD or even SoaVM Sugar on a Virtual Machine am I the only one
who see the broken logic here?
David Van assche
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Benjamin M.
Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
This is just a naming
Hi there,
We've just launched a pretty decent start for a linux for education
portal that should contain hundreds (we already have about 50) totally
creative commons or similar free license courses that can be used
online directly (guest access to all courses) or downloaded to export
into one's
+1 Bert and others
my2cents
Outside of the opensource world I've seen many non-mainstream groups become
too thinly spread due the many dedicated individuals involved together. I've
seen in first hand in a few different sports, and know of it in a couple of
other examples, such as French left wing
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:28:35PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
The basic principle behind the ALSO updater seems to be that you send
a url to ASLO - Services and it responds with a list of available
updates.
Server side, the updater is part of ALSO services, a collection of
activity related
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:31:42PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:28:35PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
I tried this:
http://activities-devel.sugarlabs.org/services/update.php?id=bounceappID={3ca105e0-2280-4897-99a0-c277d1b733d2}version=foo
id: GUID of activity
in
For me, Sugar on a Stick (or on a liveCD, or in virtualization, or as
a session) is about a Sugar experience, not a Sugar on an
underlying distro/meta-OS/hardware experience. No disrespect to the
massive effort that goes into packaging and adapting Sugar to a distro
(and I am certainly aware that
Thanks for all the input.
I got the icons ready but now I've found some bugs on the new buttons I
coded. I would rather fix them before committing but maybe it's better to
let everyone see what I'm doing. With this activity, bugs usually just close
the application and I don't really know what's
Hello, Sayamindu -
I am working with a group in Oregon to create bundles of the IACL
books for the OLPC XO. I am looking for some guidance on what the
best format is to provide the books in since it looks like we will
need to work within the XO Read activity offline environment (I did
some
Hi all,
It's probably come up elsewhere on these lists and I just missed it,
but one of our Ubuntu DC LoCo members, Marti Martinson, recently
posted a message about Lubuntu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu) which appears to be the new
OFFICIAL lightweight
Great!
I just got back from an Open Library developers meeting last week,
but did not get the opportunity to talk to Peter (I attended the
second week of the conference) - although I did talk to Raj Kumar
about the state of GnuBook integration and the XO.
I definitely want to support existing
Thanks for the docs Chris.
I've been looking at the code of elements we have inside the physics
activity. It seems they're not the same version. There are some features
implemented in the physics activity code that aren't in the main code (e.g.
world.add.motor).
Does anybody know why don't we
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Wow, great stuff, can't wait to try this out at home!!
One question though: Do I have to write the image to NAND or can I also
directly boot the XO from an SD-card / USB key?
Thanks and keep up the excellent work!
Christoph
Zitat von Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com:
Hi everybody,
Hello!
Le Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:23:38 +0300, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com a écrit:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Bobby Powersbobbypow...@gmail.com
wrote:
While not hand-tuned, I believe on the latest rawhide-xo images (and
Fedora 11) you can download
Tried launching Browse (108) on devxo-1. Failed. The error message
(on webactivity.py line 35) - ImportError: No module named gnome.
I compared Soas2-20090614 (on which Browse launched) against devxo-1
(on which Browse did not launch). No difference in the source files
in the
Ah Ha!
You have just opened an interesting can of worms! When I try to use SoaS with
boot helper on my MacBook I also get Mac and Windows as my boot options.
However the Windows image is actually WindowsI since I have it installed via
Bootcamp. I need it for some internet sites that don't
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
And I forgot the actual address of the site of course:
Learn something new already, huh? ;-)
Looks very interesting!
Best,
Zonker
--
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net
openSUSE Community Manager:
It is, but he has been working my butt off adding content :)
How do I get roped into these things? All I wanted to know was how to
get a login :)
We do need to get some mods done to the server to allow for larger
content files. I've had to hold off on importing some until it gets
corrected.
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:28:09PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
Nowhere is there any mention of something distro specific, nor should
there be.
Please leave it to each distribution to babtise their work.
I am actually quite surprised that
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Hi Sean and the rest of you all,
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:38:02PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
For me, Sugar on a Stick (or on a liveCD, or in virtualization, or as
a session) is about a Sugar experience, not a Sugar on an
underlying
ok,
This is becoming silly...
Fedora nor Sugarlabs (and I think I consider myself quite a central
contributor to sugarlabs) does not have a patent, trademark or
anything else that should somehow allow it to kidnap the term sugar on
a stick, which is a far too generic term to be kidnapped by
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote:
Ah Ha!
You have just opened an interesting can of worms! When I try to use SoaS
with boot helper on my MacBook I also get Mac and Windows as my boot
options. However the Windows image is actually WindowsI since I have
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:28:09PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
[Sugar on a Stick] should [...] describe the medium by which sugar
is delivered (a usb stick) Nowhere is there any mention of something
distro specific, nor should there be.
I'm amused that a few meme-weeks ago we had a
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:26:53PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:45:45PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
Right now, every time its mentioned it always uses the
Hi,
I completely disagree.
To me, SoaS is a specific distribution coined by Sugar
enthusiasts (who happen to also most/all of them also to be
Sugar developers).
I disagree as well. I'm quite satisfied with SugarLabs' support
and usage of the SoaS .ISO as produced by
Sean... u stated it very correctly. Lets leave whats under the hood,
there where its supposed to be... we are driving a car, and whether
thats a mercedes, bmw or ford really shouldnt matter as long as it
drives now if u want specific items in your car or u want your car
to drive in a
Hello David.
That's the best option in my opinion.
cheers!.
Rafael Ortiz
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:
Chris,
Upon further examining
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Browse_(8.2)http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Browse_%288.2%29,
I
Hi,
The current status is that SoaS + CD Boot Helper work on many macs.
On some macbooks we need to need nomodeset
Today at the Lilla Fredrick School it booted through all the dots appearing
then went to the shell and could not find boot. The exact same USB and boot
helper boots my iMac just
I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
linked to any one distro.
The way I look at it is there are currently potentially three ways a kid can
get access to their Sugar.
1. One-to-One Laptops - Each kid gets a laptop.
2. Virtualization - When you are connected to
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:16:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
linked to any one distro.
Laudable goal, but please don't underestimate how much work this is.
I think Sebastian and David have an idea what's involved, but
Martin - we worked out Flavors at the marketing meetings
Sean
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:16:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
linked to any
On 18 Jun 2009, at 10:29, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:21, Sascha
Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:09:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
Wonder if that's intended, as going to a zoom level involves some
kind
of animation, i.e. is
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:50:00AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
Martin - we worked out Flavors at the marketing meetings
Ok. It'd be nice if there was a mail sometime stating that. I guess
your one a few minutes ago was that mail.
Sean
Martin
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On 18 Jun 2009, at 11:48, Brian Jordan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com
wrote:
On 17 Jun 2009, at 06:29, Edward Cherlin wrote:
Did you look at my Turtle Art version of Alan Kay's third-grade
gravity
lesson?
I'm having difficulty with this launch (which was originally planned
for three months from now :-)
We're making it, but it's a pressure situation...
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:50:00AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
I've made some changes - hopefully acceptable to all but in case
they're not I wanted to be up front about it to allow the appropriate
steps to be taken.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:38:50PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
Done...
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Grosefgr...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 09:23:38AM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
Is there a way we can modify SoaS so that mac users don't have to
[add nomodeset to the kernel command line] but it still works for
everyone?
Yes (SoaS could put nomodeset in its kernel command line).
Also you/we/someone should
On 18 Jun 2009, at 15:10, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
0. I'm guessing there will be some simple API, maybe
sugar.activity.assess. Or maybe it's actually part of datastore.
The obvious thing, to me, is to store it in the Datastore object's
metadata properties.
This sounds good. Making the how-to-upload tutorial more prominent
will help as well. So that new releases such as [[jam2jam]] are put
in the right place... SJ
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz
Guerrerodir...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello David.
That's the best option in my
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:17:09AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
I'm having difficulty with this launch (which was originally planned
for three months from now :-)
We're making it, but it's a pressure situation...
It'd be nice was meant without its usual sarcastic implication,
sorry. I did mean I
Hi James,
On 18 Jun 2009, at 15:28, James Simmons wrote:
David,
I am doing that now, but the page I'm pointing to is the one on
wiki.laptop.org. Should I abandon that page and create a new one
somewhere else? Should I perhaps move my pages to
wiki.sugarlabs.org and replace my
Forwarding to a couple of mailing lists...
-- Forwarded message --
From: Mike Major jmi...@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Subject: [math4] i18n
To: Math List fourthgradem...@lists.sugarlabs.org
i'm struggling right now with how to display some text on the
I just thought I would take a minute to fill in the Sugar on a Stick
back story and summarize the thread. That way we can let it ferment a
bit before we get back to it at the next marketing meeting.
Last August Brian Jordan and I made the original Sugar on a USB memory
stick at the XO-Sugar Book
Good example of how to answer the question of what to say when
introducing SoaS as an install option:
- Forwarded message from Holt h...@laptop.org -
Jacob Haddon wrote:
Forgive the question. I've been digging through laptop.org and fedora
wikis, forums and dev lists for this
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 23:49 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote:
the tar content is quite differente from git.
that is probably my fault
anyway, I got your point:
separate css, js, images, audio and so on into folders (agreed!)
I see you tried to include std html elements.
But the problem is that 'modeset' works with other machines and takes
advantage of a very useful kernel feature. Adding a blanket
'nomodeset' removes this feature - it allows Mac booting, but to the
detriment of all other hardware.
Ideally, there should be a way to detect whether it's
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Amir Ansaria...@open-edu.co.uk wrote:
But the problem is that 'modeset' works with other machines and takes
advantage of a very useful kernel feature. Adding a blanket
'nomodeset' removes this feature - it allows Mac booting, but to the
detriment of all other
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